NFL  > General NFL  > Mick Vick - most dangerous quarterback in history.
November 18, 2010, 09:09 AM
Kudos to Rod Woodson for being the first person to say it. No QB has ever had the ability to run and pass the way Vick does. Not Randall Cunningham, not anyone. No turnovers. Highest rated passer in the NFL this year (115). How do you stop him? Interestingly, Woodson mentioned the Bucs and the Tampa 2 ...

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November 18, 2010  10:17 AM ET

I am of the mind that Vick returning to a successful NFL career after his time in prison is a good news story -- too few in the NFL. But let's not forget that Vick was a very average QB who could run very well when he left Atlanta. This year he appears to be a BETTER QB who runs. He was on fire Monday night but lets wait until we get to the end of the season to see what is going on. The Giants got rocked by Dallas last week, they may have memories of last year's nightmare so I am unsure which giant team will show Sunday night. Not the most dangerous QB in history.

November 18, 2010  12:25 PM ET

He is really dangerous if your a dog. "Watch out Fido, the 'Vick' is on the prowl tonight, stay away from nightclubs hosting birthday parties or you shall be shot like a dog" by either Micheal or Ray Lewis.
Who is next, who will be the next poster boy for stupidity?

November 18, 2010  12:49 PM ET

vick has paid for his crimes and most don't still judge him for his past. there are countless stories like his. he is working to establish himself as productive person and until he falls off the wagon and begins to repeat his old ways.... he deserves a chance to turn things around. and it looks like he is doing just this at this point - and most hope he continues. it's certainly premature to crown him the greatest at anything.... but you can't deny he is extremely talented.

November 18, 2010  02:51 PM ET

He's doing what he needs to do to be a starter (Done) and get paid (In progress).. The amount of debt I think he is in, he has to go 110% every play. I would agree with Woodson, It's a status I think Vick holds all by himself... Steve Young is the only person I could think of that comes close to be tagged "Dangerous" but then again Young had the "Greatest player in NFL history" to throw to right? In the redzone he is impossible to defend because you just don't know what he's going to do because you can't bait him to run like you could when he was with Atlanta because who was he going to throw to? He's just unpredicable with his feet and NOW Smart with the football! Before it was unpredicable with his feet and careless with the football.

When the season started, I saw my Giants Schedule and I'd figure the most critical games in the second half of the season were going to be against the Packers and Vikings. I didn't give the Eagles a chance with Kolb starting but now with Vick that all changes. It's a hot and cold season all over the NFL.. You can dominate one week and fall apart the next... The Eagles really killed us last season with big plays, I really don't want to see a repeat of that again, Just because it's Vick isn't a excuse!!!

November 18, 2010  06:57 PM ET

Tampa 2 only works if you can consistently get pressure with a four-man pass rush. Few teams have that ability. Plus, DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin's ability to stretch the field would force the safeties to play deep, leaving a lot of options open underneath for Brent Celek and LeSean McCoy.

November 18, 2010  08:00 PM ET

Well said.....it is the fact that an Eagles QB is sending his jersey to the Hall of Fame by way of request for it, for a remarkable individual performance that was a historic event. There aren't enough superlatives to define the dismantling of a division foe with a national audience on MNF, and the manner it was done. Hats off to Andy and his coaching staff for doing a phenomenal job coaching up Vick's mechanics and how to play the QB position at it's highest level...with the abilities that Vick has, to run... or launch it 60 yards with authority.

Vick = love him or hate him....he is the most dangerous QB in the NFL right now.

(duplicate post...pressed for time haha)

November 19, 2010  03:26 AM ET
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Agreed, +40. It seems kind of silly for Woodson to make this claim. Steve Young comes to mind right away. And I'm sure that there were plenty of single wing and wing T who were devastating runners. That they didn't pass as much then doesn't speak at all to their ability to do so. Mike Vick is having a great season. Good for him. We'll see where he fits in among the greats in another five or ten years. Right now, Vick isn't in the top 30 or 40 best QBs ever.

I agree that saying Vick is the greatest anything in the history of the NFL (quite a long period of time) is rushing things. Then again, the original post said most dangerous, not greatest. Still, the point stands. Having said that, this certainly isn't the same Vick we saw playing for the Falcons. The Falcons era Vick was a great athlete, but not a great QB. This year, Vick is playing like a great QB. He's actually going through his progressions. His reads have gotten better. His accuracy and decision making are much better. He's no longer a run first QB. He runs when that's the design of the play, or when no one is open. Even then, he keeps his head up and looks for a receiver to open up. Reid, Morningweg, and Urban have done a great job teaching Vick how to be a real QB rather than just an athlete.

November 19, 2010  03:32 AM ET
QUOTE:

How many Super Bowl rings does he have? Just asking!

Before this year, who did he have to help him get a ring? Just asking.

November 19, 2010  04:19 AM ET
QUOTE:

Agreed, +40. It seems kind of silly for Woodson to make this claim. Steve Young comes to mind right away. And I'm sure that there were plenty of single wing and wing T who were devastating runners. That they didn't pass as much then doesn't speak at all to their ability to do so. Mike Vick is having a great season. Good for him. We'll see where he fits in among the greats in another five or ten years. Right now, Vick isn't in the top 30 or 40 best QBs ever.

Best QB is not the issue - dangerous QB is. Who has combined passing and running better? Admittedly, he wasn't the sharpest passer in Atlanta, but that was then and this is now, he has definitely improved.

November 19, 2010  04:21 AM ET

Again, people are missing the point. Who's the most DANGEROUS weapon, not who's the best QB. Who can do it ALL i.e. run like Carl Lewis and pass like Joe Cool....?

November 19, 2010  04:22 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

vick has paid for his crimes and most don't still judge him for his past. there are countless stories like his. he is working to establish himself as productive person and until he falls off the wagon and begins to repeat his old ways.... he deserves a chance to turn things around. and it looks like he is doing just this at this point - and most hope he continues. it's certainly premature to crown him the greatest at anything.... but you can't deny he is extremely talented.

Donte Stallworth killed a human being and got 24 days in jail. Playing in the NFL now and not a word. But mess with *dogs* ....

November 19, 2010  06:27 PM ET
QUOTE:

How many Super Bowl rings does he have? Just asking!

Your logic is elementary......how long was Elway one of the best in the business before he got his?
How long did Peyton Manning have to wait, but eventually got his while posting outstanding numbers year in year out?
How many Rings does Dan Marino have???and he is considered one of the all time greats.

Does this mean in your opinion Trent Dilfer was a better QB than Vick is right now because Dilfer has a ring, and Vick doesn't have a ring yet?

Just asking.......

November 20, 2010  03:12 AM ET
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He's had a great half season. Talk to me in four or five years.

Four or five years isn't necessary to label him dangerous or not. Example : Johnny X plays one game as a starter in the NFL. He runs like Jim Brown for 200 yards, completes unbelievable passes for ten TDs and 700 yards. Would he have to play for five years for him to be labelled the most dangerous QB ever? It has nothing to do with duration whatsoever.

November 20, 2010  08:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Again, people are missing the point. Who's the most DANGEROUS weapon, not who's the best QB. Who can do it ALL i.e. run like Carl Lewis and pass like Joe Cool....?

Personally I think Rod Woodson over-exaggerated when he dismissed Randall Cunningham. Cunningham had eventually turned into one heck of a pocket passer.

But I'll let Woodson keep that comment if Vick can finish the season out with a 100+ passer rating.

 
November 21, 2010  09:38 PM ET

"Of course it has everything to do with duration. In your example, Johnny X would qualify as the "most dangerous" quarterback for one game. That can't possibly compare to a career. The "ever" designation speaks directly to that.

Vick has yet to throw for 3000 yards in a season in an era when that is done by average quarterbacks. Vick is exciting and I actually root for him as a person. I hope he really is a changed man. He sure is a fine athlete and he has shown more this season than I ever expected to see from him as a quarterback, even before he got locked up. Good for him, good for the Eagles and good for the NFL. Most dangerous ever? No. Or at least not yet. "



Good post Jack......I agree. Let's not get caried away by one game against the 'Skins. It remains to be seen if Vick can put together an extended body of work, or not............

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