NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > TCU to the Big East- what it means
November 29, 2010, 02:15 PM
TCU is leaving the West, and going to the Big East starting with the 2012-13 season.

I???m not breaking this story, you can read that elsewhere- but here is my take on this.
Why for TCU

1) MONEY. Its the NCAA- its ALWAYS about the money.

The Mountain West is NEVER going to get major TV money, The Big East is going to be getting a new TV deal at the end of 2013

The biggest TV markets in the MW is Las Vegas and San Deigo- Is the MW really going to get a ton of cash for Wyoming on TV?

The Big East brings Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, New Jersey and Florida; Plus the Legendary UConn based ESPN.

2) The BCS Auto-Bid. TCU is going to get passed up by the Oregon/Auburn title game- Even if one of themhad lost- they might have gotten passed by Boise if they were still undefeated. Had LSU won- they would be ahead of them in the BCS pecking order. Moving to to the Big 6 ??? and they start the season ahead of Boise, Utah and BYU, and as well know, its easier to stay ahead in the polls than to get ahead.

3) Recruiting. Staying in the MW is going to hurt recruiting eventually, no team outside the Big 6 can stay on top forever, look at teams that have popped up and won 10+ games for a bit- then went away, even Notre Dame is hurting as an independent and the clamor gets louder every year to join a conference. Trust me, as soon as NBC thinks they would be better off showing ER re-runs than ND, they will join a conference. Joining the Big East gets them the Northwest Market, into NFL cities and even though they are in the fertile grounds of Texas, trips to Florida is always a nice thing.

Read the rest at
http://sportsnickel.com/2010/11/29/tcu-to-move-to-the-big -east-what-it-means/
November 29, 2010  02:26 PM ET

In the short term the on-field success will depend on how Dalton's replacement plays. If he is a keeper than TCU should take a BE title sooner rather than later.

November 29, 2010  03:55 PM ET

GOod to see you writing again, pimp.

November 29, 2010  03:58 PM ET

Yea. It makes good football sense for TCU. And recently at least BE could certainly use TCU. The geography is a bit weird.

November 29, 2010  04:50 PM ET

I think the Big XII screwed up. They could have had TCU for the asking, but decided to stand pat with 10 teams. Now they have competition in the Dallas-Ft. Worth market.

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November 29, 2010  05:39 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

I think the Big XII screwed up. They could have had TCU for the asking, but decided to stand pat with 10 teams. Now they have competition in the Dallas-Ft. Worth market.

I think TCU was hanging around waiting for the Big 12 to ask......but kinda like the prom, if the stud QB ain't going to ask, the cute snapper will do.

November 29, 2010  05:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

I think TCU was hanging around waiting for the Big 12 to ask......but kinda like the prom, if the stud QB ain't going to ask, the cute snapper will do.

I liked Patterson's comment. He said the biggest hurdle to recruiting is that TCU isn't AQ, and now that's no longer a reason.

November 29, 2010  08:26 PM ET

It makes sense for both parties:

TCU gets money, an auto-bid, and yes a bigger recruiting 'market'.

Meanwhile the Big East adds a team that will right away be the best team in the conference.

None the less, the big east, is still the big least.

November 29, 2010  10:33 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

GOod to see you writing again, pimp.

Agreed.

November 29, 2010  10:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

It makes sense for both parties:TCU gets money, an auto-bid, and yes a bigger recruiting 'market'.Meanwhile the Big East adds a team that will right away be the best team in the conference.None the less, the big east, is still the big least.

This definitely helps the Big East. They lack stability. The highest ranked team they have right now is #23 West Virginia. With TCU there will be less talk of them potentially losing their AQ.

November 30, 2010  09:57 AM ET

With Skip Holtz likely to stabilize and improve things at USF, Marrone turning things around at Syracuse, Strong righting the ship at Louisville, WVU fielding a generally solid if unspectacular team, and now TCU I think the BE is going to be pretty competitive for the next few years. I don't think anyone knows if TCU could sustain success if Patterson were to leave but it seems a little less likely that he would leave after joining an AQ conference. It's probably a short-sighted move on the part of the BE but short-sighted is better than blind.

November 30, 2010  09:58 AM ET

I forgot to mention Wanny inevitably getting canned at the end of this year and that's got to help Pitt.

November 30, 2010  10:10 AM ET

Interesting article
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/393987-if-a-frog-had-wingsten-worst-tcu -losses-of-the-gary-patterson-era#headline

November 30, 2010  12:19 PM ET

TCU's location is the only thing that does not make sense...other than that its a good move! the BIG EAST should also snatch up UCF and a few other schools...make all their basketball schools also have football to or they can not be apart of the BIG EAST anymore...TAKE THAT NOTRE DAME!

November 30, 2010  03:49 PM ET

Everybody thinks the geography doesn't make sense, but they don't realize how far TCU has to travel for the MWC already. When you add in Hawaii in 2012, TCU would actually have more travel time in the MWC than they will in the Big East.

Great move for football. Horrible move for basketball. Nobody cares about basketball though.

November 30, 2010  04:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Great move for football. Horrible move for basketball. Nobody cares about basketball though.

Sad but true. Just a few months ago, when Nebraska and Colorado switched conferences, there was talk of the Big XII possibly dissolving. That would have left Kansas on an island. They've got one of the top basketball programs yet no one would want them.

November 30, 2010  11:23 PM ET

I hope the BE stays @ 9 teams for football. There has been some consternation reported from Big XII coaches about 9 game conference schedules with 5 road games every other year. Big 10 coaches balked at 9 game conference schedules. I think Tressel stated Ohio State had to have 7 total home games each year to help pay for other sports.
TCU should improve in basketball with increased exposure. I think a real positive for both Men's and Women's Basketball is the difference between Eastern Standard Time mid-week road games will normally start no later than 7:00pm Central Time but Pacific Time games end after midnight Dallas time.
TCU should also dominate BE baseball.

December 1, 2010  03:03 AM ET
 
December 1, 2010  03:16 AM ET

In a nuthsell, it means TCU will no longer be labeled as a Non-AQ.

Whatever that's supposed to mean.

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