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I was thinking about that as well. What I can't grasp is how TCU is ranked higher than say...Wisconsin or tOSU? I mean, nevermind the OC games... their conference isn't exactly tough.

It just boggles my mind. It's like they put TCU type teams there for show, and to act like they are being "fair" to them...then they don't think about the possible outcomes like this.

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Originally posted 01:12 PM ET  12.04 by ICEnSoCal

Ok, so this kinda crossed my mind this morning, and pardon me if it's wrong seeing as I have not paid much attention to the BCS rankings. (Outside the top 2 of course which is crammed down our collective throats daily). Let's say both oregon and auburn crap the bed today. I think that would leave tcu and stanford for the BCS Game. Probably not the matchup the suits or tv people are looking for, but I think it would be a hoot. Any thoughts???

i think that's what should happen but i'm not sure it will. i think the worst thing for TCU today would be if both Oregon and Auburn lose. If they do, it will be Oregon vs. Wisconsin or Auburn vs. Stanford or Auburn vs. Wisconsin.

That would be a travesty.

TCU started out ranked fairly high and they haven't lost, while all around them lost a game. That's how they're ranked so highly. As for Oregon and Auburn losing, should that happen I guarantee that one of them (Auburn) will still be in the title game. The fix is already in. (Auburn's surprise jump to #1 last week assures it)

Besides, Stanford lost to Oregon head-to-head so there's no chance they'll get to the title game ahead of them. Wisconsin, maybe...but I really think if both lose it will be Auburn - TCU.

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Originally posted 01:33 PM ET  12.04 by The Ladybird

i think that's what should happen but i'm not sure it will. i think the worst thing for TCU today would be if both Oregon and Auburn lose. If they do, it will be Oregon vs. Wisconsin or Auburn vs. Stanford or Auburn vs. Wisconsin.That would be a travesty.

remember Kansas St. took Oklahoma to the wood shed and OU still got in.

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Originally posted 01:34 PM ET  12.04 by Orac

(Auburn's surprise jump to #1 last week assures it)

I think most people weren't surprised by that. They've been gaining ground each week and lot's of people saw this happening back when Oregon jumped ahead of Auburn. Kind of irrelevant anyway unless uniform color matters which obviously doesn't for Oregon.

I don't think it's a true fix but the system definitely favors the AQ conferences. Which I'm fine with as long as everyone's equal in the loss column. This year though, I think TCU would deserve a shot if either Oregon or Auburn loses and definitely if they both do.

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Originally posted 01:26 PM ET  12.04 by Ms. G

I was thinking about that as well. What I can't grasp is how TCU is ranked higher than say...Wisconsin or tOSU? I mean, nevermind the OC games... their conference isn't exactly tough.It just boggles my mind. It's like they put TCU type teams there for show, and to act like they are being "fair" to them...then they don't think about the possible outcomes like this.

I would ask who has WISC or tOSU beaten? Other than the name on the Jersey they don't have on-field results backing them up this year as of yet.

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Originally posted 01:34 PM ET  12.04 by Orac

TCU started out ranked fairly high and they haven't lost, while all around them lost a game. That's how they're ranked so highly. As for Oregon and Auburn losing, should that happen I guarantee that one of them (Auburn) will still be in the title game. The fix is already in. (Auburn's surprise jump to #1 last week assures it)Besides, Stanford lost to Oregon head-to-head so there's no chance they'll get to the title game ahead of them. Wisconsin, maybe...but I really think if both lose it will be Auburn - TCU.

They shouldn't have been ranked so highly to begin with.

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Originally posted 01:41 PM ET  12.04 by The Ladybird

This year though, I think TCU would deserve a shot if either Oregon or Auburn loses and definitely if they both do.

I definitely agree with this. TCU has done nothing but win. They will be one of three potentially remaining unbeatens, and they deserve their shot should it come to that.

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Originally posted 02:14 PM ET  12.04 by Armpit

I would ask who has WISC or tOSU beaten? Other than the name on the Jersey they don't have on-field results backing them up this year as of yet.

well, Wisconsin went and beat tOSU when they were number one, that's who they beat.

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Originally posted 01:41 PM ET  12.04 by The Ladybird

I think most people weren't surprised by that. They've been gaining ground each week and lot's of people saw this happening back when Oregon jumped ahead of Auburn. Kind of irrelevant anyway unless uniform color matters which obviously doesn't for Oregon.I don't think it's a true fix but the system definitely favors the AQ conferences. Which I'm fine with as long as everyone's equal in the loss column. This year though, I think TCU would deserve a shot if either Oregon or Auburn loses and definitely if they both do.

I wasn't surprised. I thought Auburn should have been number one anyway.

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Originally posted 02:27 PM ET  12.04 by Ms. G

They shouldn't have been ranked so highly to begin with.

Why? Based on last year and their returning players they deserved their initial ranking more than a ton of other teams from AQ conferences. Can you say Texas?

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Originally posted 02:34 PM ET  12.04 by Ms. G

well, Wisconsin went and beat tOSU when they were number one, that's who they beat.

Yah, but who has tOSU beat? Miami? The whole B10 argument (good or bad) is very, very circular this year. TCU has also not lost.

You got me looking at the conference standings, I had no idea Hawaii sits at the top of the WAC at 7-1, thats better than Nevada and Boise st, Ha ha ha..

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Originally posted 02:39 PM ET  12.04 by Orac

Why? Based on last year and their returning players they deserved their initial ranking more than a ton of other teams from AQ conferences. Can you say Texas?

No, they shouldn't have. WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED????

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Originally posted 02:52 PM ET  12.04 by Armpit

Yah, but who has tOSU beat? Miami? The whole B10 argument (good or bad) is very, very circular this year. TCU has also not lost.

Doesn't matter. The Big Ten is stronger than the MAC AND the WAC. You can go **** for tat with the Pac Ten, but I thingk Stanford should be higher than TCU.
I don't care that they are undefeated. WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED?????

I'm not saying TCU isn't a very good team. I'm saying they shouldn't be #3. I'd give them #5.

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Originally posted 03:31 PM ET  12.04 by Ms. G

Doesn't matter. The Big Ten is stronger than the MAC AND the WAC. You can go **** for tat with the Pac Ten, but I thingk Stanford should be higher than TCU.I don't care that they are undefeated. WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED?????

Utah.

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If Oregon and Auburn win out they will play for the national championship under the current BCS system. That said I think the best game after that will be Stanford v/s Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. Talk about two old fashioned powerhouse offenses going at it for 60 minutes it would be the game of the year.

Agreed, that would be a great game. Hey what happened to Iowa?

Don't make fun of Iowa. I happy to know a very awesome product of tOSU that is an Iowa fan.....she's 7.

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Originally posted 03:30 PM ET  12.04 by Ms. G

No, they shouldn't have. WHO HAVE THEY PLAYED????

Everyone they were supposed to play and they took care of business. There's no basis at all for any pre-season ranking, hence my comment about Texas. That's one flaw in the BCS system that both TCU and Boise State used to their advantage and it's a direct result of how they played in the previous year. If you're going to complain about this you may as well make the same complaint about every team.

By your argument the non-AQ teams will forever be down because the AQ teams refuse to schedule them. And when they do schedule the TCU's and Boise's of the world they often lose to them. Virginia Tech and Oregon State weren't fluke wins. Yet another reason why last year's Fiesta Bowl was such a travesty. Boise and TCU should have played AQ schools, not each other. But the powers that be have too much at stake to allow a direct comparison to be made against the elite non-AQ schools.