NFL  > Dallas Cowboys  > Pros and Cons Do We Want Garrett To Be Our Coach?
December 6, 2010, 02:11 PM
Like it or not Garrett is well on his way to getting the job. He should be 4-0 were it not for the Williams fumble. I am very pleased to see us winning although this league is pathetic. Unless Garrett goes 1-3 and his team comes up with awful efforts like the Packer/Jags games he is our headcoach next year and he deserves it. I think Garrett is a motivator who his players respect. Hes an ivy league guy so hes very bright. As long as he goes 2-2 and gives the Eagles a hard time I will be happy with his 5-3 record with a team that looked as bad as I ever saw it in weeks 7 and 8. I think he may finish 3-1 and 6-2 overall. We did have the Eagles number last year so a win in Dallas this Sunday is not impossible. Yea I am happy with his record but ...........

The Cowboys are starting to win games but lets not get too giddy because their defense is terrible. Will Garrett make a change with the defensive coaches? Will he have the power to? We all know that if Jerry got a Gruden in here he'd let him make the changes. We need a guy like Capers to come up with a scheme to make them a better team. We need another db coach to try to get Jenkins back to his game if he does have some. If Garrett has control why is Ball our starting safety? Why are we gambling with an unsteady kicker like Bueller? Can Garrett draft players? My feeling is we get Garrett next year but if Garrett can't draft or Jerry won't let him... get used to playoff losses. This team can make the playoffs with this group but won't win a championship. We need a couple of great play makers on defense. Can Garrett take us to the big show?
December 6, 2010  03:24 PM ET

Dallas' problems do not lie in the coaching staff. Dallas' problems are drafting players. Players that consistently make the starters earn their job. We dont do that. Therefore we are mediocre at best. You cannot pull a 2009 and draft for friggin special teams. with 3rd round picks and worse. Until Jerry Jones gives up the reins as the GM get used to it ... thing wont ever change. They will have ood years every once in a while like their 13-3 season ... but they will never win the SB until JJ is no longer the GM. We have 12 + years of history to look back on. Ever since Jimmy Johnson left ... noone can win a SB here. Not even bill parcells.

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December 6, 2010  03:41 PM ET

You do ask the best questions.
First of all, Williams did NOT fumble. He was stripped of the ball by the Saints player. There's a difference, and that was a helluva defensive play.Those guys get paid to play and do things like that.
We HAD the Eagles number LAST year. Vick is a more dangerous QB than McNabb, and that's saying something, because McNabb wasn't bad at all.
I'm sure some coaches will be gone at the end of the season. Garrett is going to be seeing who's available, I'm sure. The guy Alan Ball beat out is gone, and that's why he is starting.
Gruden and/or Capers aren't likely to come and coach for the Cowboys, if Garrett retains the HC job. It will surprise me if one or both do, as both would want to be the HC.
If Bueller can get a bit more accurate, and I think he can, then why change him? He's been real good on kick offs, and if his accuracy on FG's improve, then you have a formidable weapon there. Yeah, he missed one last night, but it wasn't by much, and he did hit the game winner.

The only way we'll know if Garrett can draft is to let him. I'm sure Jerry will listen to him....maybe not at one point in time, but he will for a year or two. This year has been an embarrassment to him. Same thing with the "Big Show". No playoffs this year, and you have to make that first, before any championships. Sorry.

December 6, 2010  03:44 PM ET
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Dallas' problems do not lie in the coaching staff. Dallas' problems are drafting players. Players that consistently make the starters earn their job. We dont do that. Therefore we are mediocre at best. You cannot pull a 2009 and draft for friggin special teams. with 3rd round picks and worse. Until Jerry Jones gives up the reins as the GM get used to it ... thing wont ever change. They will have ood years every once in a while like their 13-3 season ... but they will never win the SB until JJ is no longer the GM. We have 12 + years of history to look back on. Ever since Jimmy Johnson left ... noone can win a SB here. Not even bill parcells.

Good points. Jones is hung up on these later round "values", which are like everything else. A hit or a miss, with the latter more likely.

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December 6, 2010  04:00 PM ET

He cant keep his nose outta the thing. I wish he would give the GM job to Steven his son and go about his business of selling the stadium. He loves the limelight too much. He LOVES having his fingers in all the personell decisions. Even tho he cant pull himself away and make those decisions. He refuses to admit he makes mistakes and just cut players. Roy williams is a prime example. He cant admit he made a mistake so he has kept the dude around an extra 2+ years. GMs have to be like cornerbacks ... i missed with this guy .. shake it off, cut your losses and get em next play. Jimmy Johnson didnt hit on every pick he ever made. But he DID get rid of guys that werent working out. As soon as possible.

December 6, 2010  04:57 PM ET
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He cant keep his nose outta the thing. I wish he would give the GM job to Steven his son and go about his business of selling the stadium. He loves the limelight too much. He LOVES having his fingers in all the personell decisions. Even tho he cant pull himself away and make those decisions. He refuses to admit he makes mistakes and just cut players. Roy williams is a prime example. He cant admit he made a mistake so he has kept the dude around an extra 2+ years. GMs have to be like cornerbacks ... i missed with this guy .. shake it off, cut your losses and get em next play. Jimmy Johnson didnt hit on every pick he ever made. But he DID get rid of guys that werent working out. As soon as possible.

i think you have it here.... JJ's involvement is likely to continue and we will never know if garrett can pick talent if JJ is doing all the picking. if garrett splits the final four games - he's the HC next yr. it would be hard not to give him a shot even though many would like a gruden type here instead. cutting roy.... is that an option? he's got a monster salary and what would that involve? the word is that roy's contract will be renegotiated next season to more like a #3 WR given that we have miles and dez as the top two. so look for roy to accept a pay cut or be shown the door.

December 6, 2010  05:36 PM ET
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Jimmy Johnson didnt hit on every pick he ever made. But he DID get rid of guys that werent working out. As soon as possible.

Curvin Richards as a prime example....for fumbling one too many times.

December 6, 2010  05:59 PM ET

We have a chance if Jerry lets Garrett pick. If I am an owner I sign the best scouts as well? Who becomes a scout? What is the criteria? Lacewell was our lead scout in the Johnson days, Oh is it Garretts brother? Seriously I think it is? Isn't it?

December 6, 2010  06:07 PM ET

Yes very interesting the Cowboys director of pro scouting is Jason's brother Judd Garrett? lol They both conspirited to get Jason in the head coaching seat with the disaster drafting! lol We can draft now that Jason is the top gun! lol

December 6, 2010  06:10 PM ET

Ok...for me...Garrett is the guy...for several reasons.

First off, he has turned the ship around in the win column. 3-1 with wins on the ROAD over NY and the Colts...

Second, this is the most UNIQUE offseason ever.

If we do go through a lockout (likely)...then if you hire a new coach, he will have NO CONTACT with players until possibly the summer time...and, you got to pay the guy somewhere around 3-4 mil per season on top of Wade's contract.

Garrett has the attention of the players and that is huge...he keeps the offense intact and that is even more huge....considering that Barber will finally be gone (due to money) and Choice will get to step up...toss in Dez Bryant and you got a good core of young offensive players.

Now, the D is a different story...our Safties suck...plain and simple. Brooking is old and Spencer has done ZERO, I repeat ZERO on his side of the ball.

Phillips had this team built to blitz to force quick throws into tight coverage...sadly, beyond Ware, we have no linebacker to fear coming. Bradie James is a good 1st and 2nd down guy, but that is why we had other LB's over the years playing Nickle.

Sean Lee appears to be coming along, so that is good, but it still does NOT solve the pass rush from Spencer's side.

I think Dallas needs to focus on players and not coaches.

If they use Free Agency to get a few solid Defensive guys and draft a few more, plus OLine...this team WILL COMPETE next season.

December 7, 2010  09:58 AM ET

You dont have enough picks. you have what 5-7 picks in the draft? How do you get players for O line (Almost all of them need to be gotten 2 guards, a center and a right tackle), D line ... Spears and Olshansky both blow goats, Outside LB spencer sucks, 2 CBs, 2 Safeties. You need like 10 - 12 picks and hit on every single one. rofl. And we have JJ .. ooo shiny ... tradedown ... makin our picks. Im telling you this team is going nowhere until JJ retires.

December 7, 2010  11:31 AM ET
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You dont have enough picks. you have what 5-7 picks in the draft? How do you get players for O line (Almost all of them need to be gotten 2 guards, a center and a right tackle), D line ... Spears and Olshansky both blow goats, Outside LB spencer sucks, 2 CBs, 2 Safeties. You need like 10 - 12 picks and hit on every single one. rofl. And we have JJ .. ooo shiny ... tradedown ... makin our picks. Im telling you this team is going nowhere until JJ retires.

Spencer does not suck, he just isn't the pass rusher we need. Olshansky is a fine 3-4 DE...Spears got hurt and is gone for the year...probably not going to come back either.

We do NOT need a corner....Newman and Jenkins are fine..Scandrick off the bench is solid too...bottom line, if you have ZERO pass rush, a corner can cover only for so long...doesnt matter who you are.

You making that statement about Jerry is flat out stupid.

Jerry has 3 rings....been a while since the last one but that is due to Aikman, Smith, Irvin and Sanders ridiculous bonuses and poor cap management in the early 2000's.

Now, they have good talent, they just need to fill a few holes through the draft and sign a few free agents as well.

Dallas will be fine.

Let's not forget, Dallas could not sign anyone last season due to the uncapped year's rules.

Once the new CBA is in place, Dallas will be in VERY, emphasis on VERY good financial shape with their good players.

Not one current "star" on Dallas's team is not under contract for years to come.

There is PLENTY to build around my friend.

You dont BARELY lose to the Defending SuperBowl champs with a backup QB and then beat the other SuperBowl team with the same QB in back to back weeks and do not have the talent.

December 8, 2010  11:37 AM ET

And next year they will all be one year older. We better get a pass rusher in the draft (like thats easy to find). How is it that the Steelers can just plug a guy in at linebacker and they are good to go. Guy gets old ... bang hes gone .. they plug the next backer in and the new guy gets like 8-10 sacks the next year. Our offensive line is a sieve. what happened to coaching these guys up? we have had 12 weeks to get these guys on the same page and it just hasnt happened. And they will all be another year older in 2011. At least the Mavericks, Stars, and Rangers are looking good.

December 8, 2010  01:06 PM ET

All I have to say about Garrett is that this is "not the same offense" that he was running for Wade Phillips. He finally put the quarterback under center so the defense can't tee. It makes it easier to run the ball because they can hit the holes faster and then you can run play action. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see this but the ivey leaguer had a tough time.
I bet Wade has been watching and thinking this ain't the same offense. Just my two cents.
I'll probably have to live with Garrett but don;t let him call the plays, please!

December 8, 2010  02:17 PM ET
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Spencer does not suck, he just isn't the pass rusher we need. Olshansky is a fine 3-4 DE...Spears got hurt and is gone for the year...probably not going to come back either.We do NOT need a corner....Newman and Jenkins are fine..Scandrick off the bench is solid too...bottom line, if you have ZERO pass rush, a corner can cover only for so long...doesnt matter who you are.

Okay I agree with that....to a degree. Certainly if your pass rush is not working even the best secondary in the league is gonna get burned numerous times. However, I do not think Jenkins and Scandrick are "okay" and maybe I am just arguing semantics here. Certainly with a better pass rush they might sufficient not to be a liability, but I still think they need to keep looking. Just my opinion though nothing I feel that strongly about.

December 9, 2010  01:50 PM ET
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Okay I agree with that....to a degree. Certainly if your pass rush is not working even the best secondary in the league is gonna get burned numerous times. However, I do not think Jenkins and Scandrick are "okay" and maybe I am just arguing semantics here. Certainly with a better pass rush they might sufficient not to be a liability, but I still think they need to keep looking. Just my opinion though nothing I feel that strongly about.

Ball is the probelm, he is not a safety and can't grasp his responsibilities quickly enough. I offer Reed and Polamalu as two examples of Safeties who bind their defenses together. Jets lost their safety last week to a broken leg in practice, look what happened to them 3 days later. Related? Maybe.

December 9, 2010  02:03 PM ET

Problem is there arent 32 safeties in the league like Polamalu and Reed ... there might be 3 or 4 ... but thats about it.

December 9, 2010  02:30 PM ET
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Problem is there arent 32 safeties in the league like Polamalu and Reed ... there might be 3 or 4 ... but thats about it.

Absolutely right. The Safety is like the QB of the Defense, sometimes the MLB. SOmebody on the Defense has to take charge of the huddle on defense. I think that guy right now is Brookings; if I'm right he has to get Ball to know his responsibilites based on down and distance, tendancies, and coverage schemes.

 
December 12, 2010  11:14 AM ET

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