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December 6, 2010, 10:02 PM
I wish I could just tell ROgan to shut up sometimes... as I can't I CAN type it here!!!
So here it is my "Shut the **** up, Rogan" Card!!!

This is related to all BS he gave about the post-Garcia fight.

I just read an interview from garcia, and I say it again. I am a fan! He might not be an elite fighter, but he has heart twice as big as anyone in this business! (and apparently he took all Lesnar's courage in his little body too).

this is from mmafighting.com and the link is clicky below

http://tinyurl.com/27roo2 l
December 6, 2010  10:03 PM ET

Leonard Garcia Talks Decision Win, Responds to Joe Rogan's Criticism

Shortly after winning a controversial split decision victory over Nam Phan at the TUF 12 Finale, Leonard Garcia sat down with Phan to watch the fight at the 24/7 Caf?? inside the Palms Casino in Las Vegas. It was an amicable, if unlikely little viewing party, but afterward Garcia said he arrived at a firm conclusion about the scoring in the fight.

He's watched the bout approximately 15 times since then, he told MMA Fighting, and his thoughts on it are the same each time.

"I think I outscored him in the first and third rounds," said Garcia. "I think that in the third round, I was dead tired, but I kept firing and kept pressing the action, and I was able to get a takedown as well."

Though judges Adelaide Byrd and Tony Weeks agreed, giving Garcia the first and third rounds even as judge Junichiro Kamijo gave every round to Phan, the fans in attendance at the Pearl at the Palms voiced their displeasure loudly and thoroughly. Even UFC color commentator Joe Rogan went to great lengths to express his disapproval, which bothered Garcia more than he initially let on.

"It does piss me off, because I have nothing to do with the decision. I have nothing to do with that. The only thing I can control is what I do in the fight. Dead tired, most people, they have that thing in their bodies that tells them, 'I'm too tired, so I'm just going to give up.' I don't have that. I go in there and I'm still trying to end the fight in the third round. So it does, it bothers me to hear him say some of that stuff he said. It's kind of a bad deal, but all it's going to do is fire me up for the next one."

December 6, 2010  10:03 PM ET

Even earlier in the bout Rogan described Garcia's punching technique as a style more suited to "throwing rocks." Garcia's had plenty of opportunity to dwell on that criticism, he said, but still isn't sure what to do with it.

"He talks about certain things that I do in the fight, but that's just my fighting style. I don't fight Joe Rogan's fighting style. I apologize to Joe Rogan, but I can't fight his style. That's not my style of fighting. What makes me who I am is my style of fighting, and people seem to enjoy it. I've won several Fight of the Night [bonuses] because of it, and I enjoy fighting that way. I think it's something the fans deserve, is to see two guys give it their all. And that's one thing I know about myself is I go out there and give it my all."

Garcia said many people fail to realize that he took the bout on short notice after a couple weeks of relative inactivity following his decision loss to Mark Hominick in September. Even after agreeing to a bout on the TUF 12 Finale, Garcia pointed out, he had his opponent changed from Tyler Toner to Nam Phan less than two weeks before the fight.

"When I take these short-notice fights, we have no time to work on technique, no time to work on anything I need to improve on," said Garcia. "All we have to time to do is get in there, do some conditioning stuff, and learn a couple little things about the opponent. And my opponent changed twice in 3 ?? weeks. It wasn't like I had a lot of time to key in on Nam Phan or Tyler Toner. Everything was up in the air."

The net result, said Garcia, was that he showed up slightly out of shape and without a solid game plan, which is why even some of his teammates had advised him against accepting the fight.

December 6, 2010  10:04 PM ET

"Even [Donald] "Cowboy" [Cerrone] told me, 'Man, you're nuts. You don't even know who you're fighting in a week and a half.' And this is Cowboy! He's one of the craziest people I know. But he was like, 'If you don't know who you're going to fight, what are we going to do? What's the game plan?' I told him we'd find out when we see the guy, but he pointed out that by then I'd be cutting weight already."

After the second round, Garcia said, he returned to his corner completely exhausted and angry at himself for running out of gas so soon.

"I was so mad at myself because of how fatigued I was," he said. "I went and sat down at the end of the second and I was cussing to myself."

By the time the decision was announced and the fans in the arena showered him with boos, Garcia said he'd already resolved never to allow himself to repeat the mistakes that led him to this point, even if it means disappointing the UFC brass.

"I did feel bad for the fans, because I got tired. I feel like I'm ripping you guys off whenever I get tired. But I made it clear to [UFC president] Dana [White] ??? he was actually really happy with me after the fight and said, 'Welcome back to the UFC, we're glad to have you back and here's your bonus' ??? but I told him, I'm not going to take any more of these short-notice fights. I'm not going to do that to myself anymore. ...It doesn't suit my best interests, and it doesn't make for a long career. I'm just not going to do it anymore."

As for Phan, Garcia said he'll "gladly" give the TUF 12 contestant a rematch. In fact, he's already asked UFC officials about the possibility of setting that fight up in the near future.

"I've made it real clear to them that that's a fight I'm 100% interested in right now. That's all I can do. I can ask for it and keep asking for it, and every interview I do I'm telling people that I want that rematch, so I'm doing my part. He deserves to fight the best Leonard Garcia, and he didn't get the best Leonard Garcia that night. He got an out-of-shape, 3 ?? weeks notice Leonard Garcia. ...I feel like he deserves a rematch and I deserve to have a full camp to fight him."

December 6, 2010  10:07 PM ET

"Even [Donald] "Cowboy" [Cerrone] told me, 'Man, you're nuts. You don't even know who you're fighting in a week and a half.' And this is Cowboy! He's one of the craziest people I know. But he was like, 'If you don't know who you're going to fight, what are we going to do? What's the game plan?' I told him we'd find out when we see the guy, but he pointed out that by then I'd be cutting weight already."

After the second round, Garcia said, he returned to his corner completely exhausted and angry at himself for running out of gas so soon.

"I was so mad at myself because of how fatigued I was," he said. "I went and sat down at the end of the second and I was cussing to myself."

By the time the decision was announced and the fans in the arena showered him with boos, Garcia said he'd already resolved never to allow himself to repeat the mistakes that led him to this point, even if it means disappointing the UFC brass.

"I did feel bad for the fans, because I got tired. I feel like I'm ripping you guys off whenever I get tired. But I made it clear to [UFC president] Dana [White] ??? he was actually really happy with me after the fight and said, 'Welcome back to the UFC, we're glad to have you back and here's your bonus' ??? but I told him, I'm not going to take any more of these short-notice fights. I'm not going to do that to myself anymore. ...It doesn't suit my best interests, and it doesn't make for a long career. I'm just not going to do it anymore."

As for Phan, Garcia said he'll "gladly" give the TUF 12 contestant a rematch. In fact, he's already asked UFC officials about the possibility of setting that fight up in the near future.

"I've made it real clear to them that that's a fight I'm 100% interested in right now. That's all I can do. I can ask for it and keep asking for it, and every interview I do I'm telling people that I want that rematch, so I'm doing my part. He deserves to fight the best Leonard Garcia, and he didn't get the best Leonard Garcia that night. He got an out-of-shape, 3 ?? weeks notice Leonard Garcia. ...I feel like he deserves a rematch and I deserve to have a full camp to fight him."

December 7, 2010  10:21 AM ET

UMMM thats alot to read for me but I will give it a shot

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December 7, 2010  12:20 PM ET

I didn't really think that Rogan was disrespectful towards Garcia or off-target at all with his criticism of the judges. He said Garcia looks like he is throwing rocks, which is true (his punches do look wild), but he also added (I'm pretty sure) that he hits like a rock and his style has worked for him. At the end of the fight, he told the fans not to boo Garcia and that the decision wasn't his fault. His critique of the judges was exactly what I was thinking in my head, so I had no problem with it.

December 7, 2010  12:21 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

PAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

45-3...what an ****-whooping that was.

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December 7, 2010  03:42 PM ET

Rogan didn't have one bad comment against Garcia. He even repeatedly said how much heart he has. Rogan was dead on with his complaints though. Phan won that fight no doubt. Garcia was throwing big bombs but Phan was blocking those. His 2 TDs that Garcia had he did no damage or advance in any dominant position. I am too a big fan of Garcia but I don't think he won that fight maybe a round but that's it. And as his heart, you can't count out Bonnar, Leben or Guida.

December 7, 2010  05:56 PM ET

the thing here is that (and Rogan does this A LOT), there's always a hidden agenda.
When he prefers one fighter, he keeps making comments about the other fighter. And that's what he did during most of the fight.
The comments in itself are not all that bad. but repeated time and again, it usually helps form the opinion towards or against a fighter.
Then after the fight, he kept talking about how Phan was much better, and how the officiating was so wrong, and that conversely diminishes what Garcia did.

So all in all, I wished Rogan would just shut up about those things, and speak strictly about the fight.
Don't get me wrong. Rogan is great talking about the fight. What a fighter does or is intending to do, etc. But when he puts his opinion into it, then he becomes just one more fanboy and IMO loses objectivity.

December 7, 2010  05:58 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

I enjoyed every second of that.

While I don't mind a bit, I just wish Pats wouldn't be so obnoxious about it.
Yes, they beat them badly. But stop gloating so much. Then you don't understand why everyone else hates the pats....

I have nothing for or against them. But this morning drive to work I had to turn the radio off and get my ipod on, because it was ridiculous!

December 8, 2010  10:11 AM ET

I understand why you guys may not like Joe but I like the guy. He make sense about 80% of the time, the other 20% he is just stoned to make any sense lol. But I disagree with the decision between Phan and Garcia. I was very impressed with Phan and thought he was robbed. I thought Phan was going to get worked but totally proved me wrong and made me a believe that with the right people he can make a living in the ufc.

December 8, 2010  11:25 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

I understand why you guys may not like Joe but I like the guy. He make sense about 80% of the time, the other 20% he is just stoned to make any sense lol. But I disagree with the decision between Phan and Garcia. I was very impressed with Phan and thought he was robbed. I thought Phan was going to get worked but totally proved me wrong and made me a believe that with the right people he can make a living in the ufc.

I thought Phan fought a very good fight. Garcia is a very difficult guy to fight because he is relentless and always goes for the KO. Phan should have tried for some take downs but I thought Nam won the fight 2 rounds to 1.

December 8, 2010  02:05 PM ET

I am with Rogan 100% on this one.

Someone has to tell Keith Kizer that his judges are incompetent. If there is no controversy, there will be no change. And Joe Rogan voicing his opinion on a UFC Broadcast has and will send shockwaves around the commissions.

Kizer is a fool.

I personally applaud Joe for speaking out and saying what he did. It takes Cajones (as El Guapo would say) to say that. Kizer doesn't like it, but who cares? The decisions in Nevada have been some of the worst we have seen in a long time in the UFC.

December 8, 2010  02:57 PM ET

I can't stand Rogan for all the reasons stated above. Yes I think Phan won that fight. Do I think Rogan was out of line with his in ring questions... YES. And it isn't the first time he has voiced an opinion rather then interview the winner.

December 8, 2010  03:39 PM ET

Gee i wonder who's side your on. Rogan was 100% right. And I'm in shock that you would even disagree. This isn't boxing. You're not suppose to get points for just throwing your arms around like a maniac. Garcia was the aggressor and yes some points are deserved for that, but Pham controlled that fight from start to finish. That's worth way more. Perhaps you don't like Rogan, and thats your freedom, but most people do. He takes the time to explain certain things that most other would not. I've learned about as much from watching mma as I have from listening to Rogan explain holds, chokes, and little subtleties of MMA. You kinda sound like your Garcia's corner man to be honest.

December 8, 2010  03:41 PM ET

and posting links or quotes regarding Garcia analyzing his own fights is really weak evidence bro. Pham was robbed. Hardcore.

 
December 8, 2010  03:44 PM ET
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Gee i wonder who's side your on. Rogan was 100% right. And I'm in shock that you would even disagree. This isn't boxing. You're not suppose to get points for just throwing your arms around like a maniac. Garcia was the aggressor and yes some points are deserved for that, but Pham controlled that fight from start to finish. That's worth way more. Perhaps you don't like Rogan, and thats your freedom, but most people do. He takes the time to explain certain things that most other would not. I've learned about as much from watching mma as I have from listening to Rogan explain holds, chokes, and little subtleties of MMA. You kinda sound like your Garcia's corner man to be honest.

On top of that how many sport commentators that do not fight are also a brown belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, brown belt in 10th Planet Jiu-Jitsu and a black belt in taekwondo? Yeah he does know what he is talking about and knows his material whether you agree or disagree. There is a reason why some consider him the best in the business.

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