NCAAF  > Florida Gators  > Is the Florida Job better?
December 9, 2010, 03:08 PM
S.I.'s Andy Staples is saying that:
Chip Kelly of Oregon, Bob Stoops of Oklahoma and Dan Mullen
are candidates for the Gator Job.

I understand Dan Mullen, obviously Florida is a better job than Miss State.

But why Kelly and Stoops? I cannot see how the Florida job is better than Oregon or Oklahoma, different school yes, better job?

Why would either switch?, I cannot see money being an issue, both schools regularly compete in the top 10.

Let's take this one step further, if either Kelly or Stoops did take the Florida job they would be instantly hated at their current schools, (think Rich-Rod at WV and Lame Kitten at Tenn). Why would anyone bring that on themselves?

Unfortunately I can see Chris Petersen being a good fit coming from Boise, not much different than when Meyers came from Utah.
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December 9, 2010  03:38 PM ET

I wish I was a top-tier division coach so I could laugh at Andy Staples' stupidity for tossing my name out on a lateral move.

December 9, 2010  03:44 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

I know virtually nothing about Oregon. But Stoops? Zero U won't lose a coach over money. They can and will pay as much as anyone. Both Florida and Oklahoma are in a category of programs that I'd call potential destination jobs. Meaning that if you coach there and if you are successful, you become a deity as far as the school's fans are concerned, you are paid top dollar for a CFB coach money, and recruiting becomes as much about selecting the right kids as it is about persuading them to come to your school. Other such schools would be 'Bama, LSU, Georgia, Texas, Southern Cal, Ohio State, Michigan (don't laugh!), maybe Arkansas, Stanford. Possibly Oregon as well, but they haven't been a super power all that long. Their fans and boosters may not be as well entrenched. Like I said, I don't know squat about them.So basically, I think Zero U to Florida is a lateral move. Oregon to Florida might or might not be.Assuming Mullen is serious about staying at Mississippi State, I have Peterson and Gruden as my two most likely successors. On a side note, I'm hoping that Peterson would be unable to Bring Harsin with him, because I'm hoping Harsin is in Austin next season.

I agree Oregon may not have been around as long and their history does not add up to the other schools.
but
Oregon today would be a pretty sweet job, they have a legion of fans. Recruiting has to be easier with all the problems at USC and UCLA.

Gruden I cannot see him taking a college job, totally dissing the idea of taking over Miami last week leads me to believe that he'd have the same reaction to Florida.

December 9, 2010  03:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I wish I was a top-tier division coach so I could laugh at Andy Staples' stupidity for tossing my name out on a lateral move.

Seriously Grue, you should apply, how some coaches got their jobs is a mystery to most folks.

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December 9, 2010  03:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I know that pre-snap motion on offense should not include the tackle position. That may make me more qualified as an OC than Greg Davis.::Sigh::

Know anything about defense? There better be a vacant DC position soon.

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December 9, 2010  04:16 PM ET

There is no chance Chip Kelley will leave Oregon. On the money front Phil Knight (Oregon alum and CEO of Nike) will make sure he's well compensated. Thanks to Knight, Oregon's facilities are second to none And why in heck would the coach of a team playing for the national championship leave to go to a rebuilding Florida? I'm sorry, but the weather in Gainesville isn't that much better than Eugene. In terms of jobs, Oregon has to be considered one of the best in the country.

December 9, 2010  04:33 PM ET

^^^ rebuilding FL is not hard. compared to most schools they are stacked with talent, just very young, in a recruiting meca, and had an off year in'10. FL could be very good next year.

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December 9, 2010  04:43 PM ET

Well I guess the people in "jorts" dont get as fired up as you Texans after one "off year" considering the one before was inthe BCSNC game.

December 9, 2010  04:48 PM ET

I dont see Stoops moving. I know he was down there for a while- and was mentioned for the job in the past. I think he is pretty well settled in where he is.

December 9, 2010  04:48 PM ET

Rebuilding Florida might not be hard, but the point is that it's really not a better job than Oregon. The Ducks should dominate the Pac-12 North for the next few years, so chances are they'll be in the national championship discussion for quite a while yet. The facilities are better than Florida's and the money is just as good.

If Florida has to have a coach from Oregon I hear Mike Bellotti might be looking to make a comeback.

December 9, 2010  04:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

There is no chance Chip Kelley will leave Oregon. On the money front Phil Knight (Oregon alum and CEO of Nike) will make sure he's well compensated. Thanks to Knight, Oregon's facilities are second to none And why in heck would the coach of a team playing for the national championship leave to go to a rebuilding Florida? I'm sorry, but the weather in Gainesville isn't that much better than Eugene. In terms of jobs, Oregon has to be considered one of the best in the country.

If the Oregon job is so great where are the results. No Rose Bowl wins since 1917. Their last PAC 10 title and Rose bowl appearance before last year was 1995.

I still think Oregon is a great job but not in the top tier yet. UF has become a top tier program in just the last 20 years. IMO Meyer put UF in the highest tier.

Though I agree UF will not be able to pick off Kelly if Foley selects Kelly as the top candidate.

December 9, 2010  04:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

I dont see Stoops moving. I know he was down there for a while- and was mentioned for the job in the past. I think he is pretty well settled in where he is.

He turned down UF on the Zook hire, I don't think he will leave OU either.

December 9, 2010  04:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Seriously Grue, you should apply, how some coaches got their jobs is a mystery to most folks.

Sure. I can run around doing parodies of different coaches. I should be able to pull it off.

December 9, 2010  05:01 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

If the Oregon job is so great where are the results.

The results ARE last year and this year. Oregon's large investments have only happened this decade and they're now reaping the rewards. Just because Florida has done it longer doesn't make that job better. In fact, doing it longer means they have to start to reinvest, as their facilities are now sub-par. Not that the facilities will hurt recruiting all that much -- it is still Florida.

December 9, 2010  05:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Sure. I can run around doing parodies of different coaches. I should be able to pull it off.

You could get yourself a condo that is located between a KFC and Krispy Kreme and go after the Maryland job.

Sorry Ralph, but if you cared it would show.

December 9, 2010  05:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

If Florida has to have a coach from Oregon I hear Mike Bellotti might be looking to make a comeback.

That's actually a pretty interesting thought... It has seemed that he is more of a NW guy and that geo kinda matters to him tho.

 
December 9, 2010  05:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

The results ARE last year and this year. Oregon's large investments have only happened this decade and they're now reaping the rewards. Just because Florida has done it longer doesn't make that job better. In fact, doing it longer means they have to start to reinvest, as their facilities are now sub-par. Not that the facilities will hurt recruiting all that much -- it is still Florida.

I know Oregon has Mr. Knight to write what every check is needed but Oregon's athletic program does not have the cash of any major SEC school. Sure Mr. Knight is rich, but the history of success at FL means a plethera of alumni whose college experience and life long passion is football and these people are willing to give on any level they can and buy lots of merchandise.

Also factor in total revenue from TV and merchandise. FL can out spend Oregon at will and they will if needed. Not saying that makes Oregon's coach quit or a bad job.

Honestly, I would take the ORegon job b/c you have less pressure..

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