NFL  > General NFL  > WHEN MICHAEL VICK GIVES OUT HALF OF HIS PAY TO A CRUELTY TO ANIMALS ORG. ???ONLY THEN HE CAN OWN A DOG..
December 17, 2010, 11:40 AM
LETS SEE HOW SERIOUS HE IS....IN MY OPINION CRUELTY TO ANIMALS IS NO DEFERENT THAN A WIFE BEATER...JUST A DOG LOVERS OPINION...AND I DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR IT...
December 17, 2010  11:41 AM ET

IGNORE THE QUESTION MARKS ON THE TITLE

December 17, 2010  11:44 AM ET

Excuse me, but your Caps Lock is on....

December 17, 2010  11:59 AM ET

When you copy and paste something on a new board, anything in quotations will come out as question marks. Why this happens, I don't know, but it does.

BEFORE you publish your board, remove the quotations marks, then manually put them back in, and it will come out w/o the question marks and WITH the quotation marks, and will then look like the original.

December 17, 2010  12:08 PM ET

Again I ask, is that you jcc1?

December 17, 2010  12:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

Excuse me, but your Caps Lock is on....

got it...

December 17, 2010  12:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

When you copy and paste something on a new board, anything in quotations will come out as question marks. Why this happens, I don't know, but it does.BEFORE you publish your board, remove the quotations marks, then manually put them back in, and it will come out w/o the question marks and WITH the quotation marks, and will then look like the original.

Thanks... I write the content on microsoft Works then I paste it... I'll just write it on the board from now on...

December 17, 2010  12:47 PM ET

I am no Vick lover, nor a dog lover. I am about doing the right thing. SINCE Vick went to jail, done a myriad of community service things etc etc and demonstrated civil behavior recently I think it would be fine if he had a dog.

His crime was dog-fighting with pitbulls or the American Pit Bull Terrier, maybe he gets a Jack Russel Terrier, keeps it at the house with his kids and treats his dog like everyone else does. I don't think the guy is a psycho-path with the intent to cause harm to living things. I think he is not so smart and got involved in a blood-sport and did some way "not so smart" things.

Bottomline I don't care if he gets a dog or doesn't.

December 17, 2010  01:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

I am no Vick lover, nor a dog lover. I am about doing the right thing. SINCE Vick went to jail, done a myriad of community service things etc etc and demonstrated civil behavior recently I think it would be fine if he had a dog. His crime was dog-fighting with pitbulls or the American Pit Bull Terrier, maybe he gets a Jack Russel Terrier, keeps it at the house with his kids and treats his dog like everyone else does. I don't think the guy is a psycho-path with the intent to cause harm to living things. I think he is not so smart and got involved in a blood-sport and did some way "not so smart" things. Bottomline I don't care if he gets a dog or doesn't.

He has been judged, sentenced, and served his time. Regardless of that, most people are going to continue to condemn him. But, I, for one, refuse to play God, and I won't hold him in contempt.

Now, if he does it again, that's a different story. Then, people can say he hasn't learned anything.

Mike Vick is someone's son.
People who continue to condemn him should ask themselves that "if it was my son caught doing that, would I continue hating him"? ................I bet you'd get a different answer.

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December 17, 2010  03:39 PM ET
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I'm a dog lover. I agree he paid his dues. But I don't agree he should be allowed to have a dog. He's a convicted felon. He wanted to play football. The league let him back in. You can't get a job at Walmart with a felony record. But any expert will tell you animal cruelty is more that just abusing something defenseless. It is far from normal. You wouldn't drop an achoholic off in front of a bar. Hand a gun to a murderer. Or give a daycare job to a pedophile. He has rights, sure. But so should a defenseless puppy.

I never said anything about him owning a dog.

I think he has a son, and when his son (and any other kids he may have) is old enough and wants a puppy for Christmas, then what? This child will see other kids having pets and wonder why he can't. I know where you're coming from tho, and I agree he brought it upon himself, but should his kids have to do without?
This really has no easy answer, does it?

December 17, 2010  04:25 PM ET

Again I don't feel strongly either way but this is the hard-ball pragmatic look at this which may (i say may) mirror how the dog-fighters look at it.

The dog is a commodity, it is there to earn money and that is it. There is no normal emotional attachment you would find with a pet. When that commodity is no longer useful you get rid of it. I will not go into the details of what followed. IF and this is a BIG IF Vick is truly wanting of a pet then he may treat it like normal people do, that is what he says. IF he is done with his dog-fighting ways then he will be like everyone else with just a mutt around the house that needs walking and petting and the occasional bath.

Winter Santa (JD's) comment about the little "gift" on the $3k Persian rug is a bit of an ugly scenario... don't know how that plays out. Hadid Carpets here in DC will get any stain/odor out they say, maybe he calls McNabb and he can get some help.

Here's a bad analogy. Suppose Vick is convicted of manslaughter while racing expensive race cars on the freeway (Like Albert Haynesworst did but leaving only paraplegics), goes to jail and then follows the path he is currently on. Do we prohibit him from owning a vehicle? He probably would be licensed again and allowed to drive a Jeep Liberty for example. Would he WANT to race that little underpowerd POS? Probably not. So if he buys a Jack Russel terrier will he have the slightest inclination to fight or abuse that little fellow? Miles apart from the pitbull breed, just like a race car is not a jeep Liberty--remember I said this was a bad analogy.

If Vick wants to score points with the SPCA and PETA he goes down to the local shelter and adopts a mutt, pays the spay/neutering fee and the fee for another 50 dogs. No reason to get one of the pure-breeds and all the in-bred problems they now have. Now if he has no brain he gets a pitbull and the volume on this all goes beyond 10+ again.

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December 17, 2010  06:04 PM ET

Great post Diablo. :)

December 17, 2010  06:15 PM ET
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Damn Bgduece, I see you are a fan of apples and oranges.I think Rothy shouldn't be allowed to take underaged drinkers into public restrooms,I think Stallworth shouldn't be allowed to operate a motor vehicle under the influence.And I wont judge anyone who decides they need to eat dog food in public.But I don't see what any of that has to do with the Vick situation. How could you use that comparison. And not say anything at all about this idiot comparing Vick to a wife beater? Really? No different than a wife beater?I have had dogs my whole life, but to put a dog at the same level as my wife? Nah, go on somewhere with that mess..Anyways... Vick served his time and I don't think anyone believes he will go back to his old ways. Let him and his family have a dog. Let them have 3 dogs, hell let him have a cat too. Animal rights activists are just as loony as the people who fight dogs. Not justifying either one. "And I don't apologize for that either."

Good post, Diablo, but BGduece is one who thinks Vick should be forgiven, and go on with his life, although he doesn't agree with the dog fighting either. This has been discussed many, many times in the last 2 years.

December 17, 2010  06:17 PM ET

"Bill Clinton would love to run a Hooters too, but that isn't happening"

-Jay Leno

December 17, 2010  06:34 PM ET

This is just incomprehensible, and the only ones that will suffer will be the unfortunate animal that winds up in this man's hands and his children. As a person that lives in a multi-pet household I can attest to the time, effort and commitment it takes to raise and take proper care of animals, and I don't think there was a lot of that going on at Bad Newz Kennels. It will only be a matter of time before something happens that sets MV off, and the dog will have to pay for his "crimes". Then it will be up to this clod to explain to his children why the dog had to suffer. I agee with the poster above that you can not pick and choose what animals you will abuse; particularly if you are an individual that takes pleasure in hurting them and seeing them suffer. It is my opinion that MV should not be allowed any where near an animal, much less take possession of one's well-being. His sense of entitlement is astounding; as a convicted felon, he should be grateful that he was given another chance in the NFL, when many deserving players are not given a shot at all. Not only another chance, but in the starting QB roll. Instead, we have him and Andy Reid making statements about him not getting calls. There are alot of players out there not getting calls, but they man up and take the hits like a good professional football player should. Now he wants to push the envelope even further by saying he wants to own an animal. If there was ever any doubt this seals it; the man is certifiable.

December 17, 2010  06:41 PM ET
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I'm a dog lover. I agree he paid his dues. But I don't agree he should be allowed to have a dog. He's a convicted felon. He wanted to play football. The league let him back in. You can't get a job at Walmart with a felony record. But any expert will tell you animal cruelty is more that just abusing something defenseless. It is far from normal. You wouldn't drop an achoholic off in front of a bar. Hand a gun to a murderer. Or give a daycare job to a pedophile. He has rights, sure. But so should a defenseless puppy.

yosemite sam..thank you for comming with guns aaablaaazzzing!!! what he did is not normal folks just don't do things like that...just saying!!

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December 18, 2010  01:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

I am no Vick lover, nor a dog lover. I am about doing the right thing. SINCE Vick went to jail, done a myriad of community service things etc etc and demonstrated civil behavior recently I think it would be fine if he had a dog. His crime was dog-fighting with pitbulls or the American Pit Bull Terrier, maybe he gets a Jack Russel Terrier, keeps it at the house with his kids and treats his dog like everyone else does. I don't think the guy is a psycho-path with the intent to cause harm to living things. I think he is not so smart and got involved in a blood-sport and did some way "not so smart" things. Bottomline I don't care if he gets a dog or doesn't.

It's a condition of his sentence. He cannot legally have a dog.

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