NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Big Decision for Jim Harbaugh ....
January 4, 2011, 07:51 PM
Jim Harbaugh's choices:

1. Coach Stanford players majoring in philosophy, law and engineering.
2. Coach Michigan players majoring in phys ed, urban studies and undeclared.
3. Coach college dropouts in the NFL.

Where will Jim Harbaugh coach in 2011, and why?
January 4, 2011  08:32 PM ET

He will be in the NFL next year coaching the drop outs. He will be the coach of the 49ers because its close enough to home he wont have to uproot and move. The weather is far nicer in Bay area than Ann Arbor. He wont have to go out on the road to recruit anymore. Plus he is still pissed that Lloyd Carr never hired him to be an assistant coach at Michigan

January 4, 2011  08:36 PM ET

I am impressed wildbill. Are you sure you didn't go to Stanford?

January 4, 2011  09:05 PM ET

#2 may not be an option. Michigan's AD is saying they haven't made a decision on RR yet. WTH? He "may" be fired?

January 5, 2011  12:52 AM ET
QUOTE(#1):

He will be in the NFL next year coaching the drop outs. He will be the coach of the 49ers because its close enough to home he wont have to uproot and move. The weather is far nicer in Bay area than Ann Arbor. He wont have to go out on the road to recruit anymore. Plus he is still pissed that Lloyd Carr never hired him to be an assistant coach at Michigan

+1 to that comment. Gotta agree with WB

January 5, 2011  10:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I am impressed wildbill. Are you sure you didn't go to Stanford?

No they did't have my major: Underwater Basketweaving available.

January 5, 2011  10:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

+1 to that comment. Gotta agree with WB

Though now that I am hearing rumors of his salary demands I'm not sure any NFL franchise would pay a coach with no NFL head coaching experience 6 mil a year.

January 5, 2011  10:35 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Though now that I am hearing rumors of his salary demands I'm not sure any NFL franchise would pay a coach with no NFL head coaching experience 6 mil a year.

He'll coach in the NFL, and he won't get 6 mil. It'll be close to those demands, but I think he's just playing hardball at first to see what he can get.

It's pretty obvious he wants to be an NFL coach, and regardless of where he goes, his salary will be greater than it is now at Stanford. All though I have no doubts that Stanford would be more than happy to give him a FAT raise if it meant he'd stay.

January 5, 2011  11:49 PM ET

I don't think he gets close to 6 mil personally. To many good/great college head coaches have been huge busts in the NFL for him to get that. In college coach that I can remember that went on to NFL success was Jimmy Johnson. There is a laundry list of far more successful college coaches that tried the NFL that had more impressive college careers than Harbaugh. Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, Nick Saban, Lou Holtz, John McKacy, etc, etc.

Not saying Harbaugh couldn't be anothr Jimmy Johnson, but I don't think an NFL owner in his right mind is going to spend close to 6 mil a year to find out. Except maybe Al Davis.

January 6, 2011  12:46 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I don't think he gets close to 6 mil personally. To many good/great college head coaches have been huge busts in the NFL for him to get that. In college coach that I can remember that went on to NFL success was Jimmy Johnson. There is a laundry list of far more successful college coaches that tried the NFL that had more impressive college careers than Harbaugh. Steve Spurrier, Bobby Petrino, Nick Saban, Lou Holtz, John McKacy, etc, etc. Not saying Harbaugh couldn't be anothr Jimmy Johnson, but I don't think an NFL owner in his right mind is going to spend close to 6 mil a year to find out. Except maybe Al Davis.

The 49ers might though. They're incredibly desperate. And with the way they've withheld money over the years, they had better be willing to cough up 6 mil a year, just to at least take a chance at giving the fans something to cheer for again.

January 6, 2011  12:59 AM ET

49ers problem is they need a GM that can get them more quality players. They need to give up on Alex Smith and cut their losses. They need to gut the team and keep only a handful of what is currently there like Patrick Willis, Crabtree, Dixon, and maybe a couple of others. There really isn't that much talent on the team. A good GM would help a lot.

January 6, 2011  01:03 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

49ers problem is they need a GM that can get them more quality players. They need to give up on Alex Smith and cut their losses. They need to gut the team and keep only a handful of what is currently there like Patrick Willis, Crabtree, Dixon, and maybe a couple of others. There really isn't that much talent on the team. A good GM would help a lot.

The 49ers are pretty solid at the skill positions.

Crabtree will develop into a solid #1 and Josh Morgan is a decent #2. Ted Ginn's a good #3.

Frank Gore is one of the best in the league, and Dixon is a great backup.

Vernon Davis might be the best TE in football.

The problem with this team is the O-line, but I expect that to improve dramatically next year as two rookies started this season.

And the defense, as it has been for the last 2 or 3 years has been pretty good.

So with all that said, I disagree that this team doesn't have talent.

And call me crazy, because I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm still not convinced Alex Smith can't be a decent NFL QB. Give this guy a real coach, and he could become a worthy starting QB. Jim Harbaugh, is great with QB's so he would be a perfect fit in that regard.

And that guy Baalke was just hired as GM, so hopefully he will do as you suggest.

January 6, 2011  04:49 AM ET

I don't know what Harbaugh's mindset is.
Maybe he wants to be an NFL hc (a step down, in my eyes), but if he wants to stay in college I don't see why he would leave Stanford.

As OM mentioned, if he wants a raise I'm sure Stanford will hock The Farm to accomodate him.


At Stanford:

- will finish ranked in the top 4, with only loss to another top 4 team
- top 2 placed Heisman finalists both of the last 2 years
- accomplished this at the highest rated academic FBS program
- no worries about academic issues
- very little legal issues with players
.. (too busy solving differential equations to get arrested)
- near 1 of the hottest recruiting areas itc
- belong to 1 of top conferences itc
- 1 of the largest and most beautiful campuses itc
- great place to live with big city, mountains, and ocean all close by
- beautiful weather


It seems to me that any other cfb job would be a step down
(or, at best, a lateral move).

January 6, 2011  09:44 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

No they did't have my major: Underwater Basketweaving available.

I believe that is available at every SEC school.


Some offer Masters in it, too...

January 6, 2011  09:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

I don't know what Harbaugh's mindset is. Maybe he wants to be an NFL hc (a step down, in my eyes), but if he wants to stay in college I don't see why he would leave Stanford. As OM mentioned, if he wants a raise I'm sure Stanford will hock The Farm to accomodate him.At Stanford:- will finish ranked in the top 4, with only loss to another top 4 team- top 2 placed Heisman finalists both of the last 2 years- accomplished this at the highest rated academic FBS program - no worries about academic issues- very little legal issues with players .. (too busy solving differential equations to get arrested)- near 1 of the hottest recruiting areas itc- belong to 1 of top conferences itc- 1 of the largest and most beautiful campuses itc- great place to live with big city, mountains, and ocean all close by- beautiful weatherIt seems to me that any other cfb job would be a step down (or, at best, a lateral move).

CR, good post, but keep in mind that continuing to recruit even decent players year-in-and-year-out that can cut it academically at Stanford is NOT easy, and I believe having just one or two years where the recruits don't pan out as hoped would really hurt.

Not saying Harbauch COULDN'T do it, just that it's a continuous extra hurdle programs at places like Stanford, Northwestern, ND, Vandy, Duke, etc. If I had the option of going to a place where I didn't have that problem, I might have to take it, especially if they were showing me the moneys.

January 6, 2011  10:31 AM ET
QUOTE(#13):

The 49ers are pretty solid at the skill positions.Crabtree will develop into a solid #1 and Josh Morgan is a decent #2. Ted Ginn's a good #3.Frank Gore is one of the best in the league, and Dixon is a great backup.Vernon Davis might be the best TE in football.The problem with this team is the O-line, but I expect that to improve dramatically next year as two rookies started this season.And the defense, as it has been for the last 2 or 3 years has been pretty good.So with all that said, I disagree that this team doesn't have talent.And call me crazy, because I know I'm in the minority on this, but I'm still not convinced Alex Smith can't be a decent NFL QB. Give this guy a real coach, and he could become a worthy starting QB. Jim Harbaugh, is great with QB's so he would be a perfect fit in that regard.And that guy Baalke was just hired as GM, so hopefully he will do as you suggest.

Mostly agree. There is DEFINITELY talen on this team- and you named it.

It's the QB that is the problem. Can Harbaugh "fix" Alex Smith?? I dunno. But Smith has had a lot of chances. And by a lot I mean: A LOT.

Also agree with the posts above. He lands in SF. He wont get 6M but he will get more than UM would pay and WAY more than S would pay. I would expect 4-5M.

January 6, 2011  10:48 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

CR, good post, but keep in mind that continuing to recruit even decent players year-in-and-year-out that can cut it academically at Stanford is NOT easy, and I believe having just one or two years where the recruits don't pan out as hoped would really hurt. Not saying Harbauch COULDN'T do it, just that it's a continuous extra hurdle programs at places like Stanford, Northwestern, ND, Vandy, Duke, etc. If I had the option of going to a place where I didn't have that problem, I might have to take it, especially if they were showing me the moneys.

That's a good point GR. Recruiting at Stanford is very difficult, even in a talent rich area. But if anybody can do it, it's Harbaugh.

And while I do agree with you, that for me personally, I'd jump at the oppurtunity to go to a school where recruiting isn't a grind, I'm not sure Harbaugh wants to.

Lets keep in mind, Harbaugh was born and raised in the Bay Area. Heck, he went to high school, literally across the street from Stanford Stadium (Paly High School). Maybe, this is an issue of wanting to stay close to his roots, rather than an issue of money, or recruiting? Not sure, but we'll find out in the near future.

January 6, 2011  02:32 PM ET

When you are ranked in the Top 10 and you can't fill your little dinky stadium (Stanford Stadium: capacity 52,000) for home games...

...your coach is going to seek new pastures come winter.

January 6, 2011  03:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

Maybe, this is an issue of wanting to stay close to his roots, rather than an issue of money, or recruiting? Not sure, but we'll find out in the near future.

Im sure it's all of these.

Here are a couple of excerpts:

JIM HARBAUGH

Age: 45

School: Stanford

Alma Mater: Michigan, 1986

Conference: Pac-10

Salary: $1,000,000

And from another site:

The Miami Dolphins are willing to make Jim Harbaugh the highest paid coach in the National Football League with a salary up to $8 million a year, ESPN reported on its website.

Increasing your salary by EIGHT TIMES is a LOTTO ticket. One way or another.. .GOTTA cash it. (Even if this means leveraging the Fins and Raiders to get a measly 6M out of SF.) He will NEVER be this hot again.

January 6, 2011  03:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#19):

When you are ranked in the Top 10 and you can't fill your little dinky stadium (Stanford Stadium: capacity 52,000) for home games......your coach is going to seek new pastures come winter.

You had me at Greener!

 
January 6, 2011  05:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#20):

And from another site:

The Miami Dolphins are willing to make Jim Harbaugh the highest paid coach in the National Football League with a salary up to $8 million a year, ESPN reported on its website.

Increasing your salary by EIGHT TIMES is a LOTTO ticket. One way or another.. .GOTTA cash it. (Even if this means leveraging the Fins and Raiders to get a measly 6M out of SF.) He will NEVER be this hot again.

Yikes, the dude has a bidding war under way for his services, made up of people with ubercheckbooks -- and they're not afraid to use'em. Wow.

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