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January 5, 2011, 10:22 AM
Here is a question for you, MMA world.

Cain Valesquez is out with a torn rotator cuff, and will be out for up to 8 months. He will have win perhaps 1, if any, fight this year.

By the time the year ends, if all goes as planned, One of Strikeforce's elite Heavyweights will have won three fights against other elite fighters. Of the eight fighters in this tourney, 4-5 of them are solid top ten fighters.

So, at the the end of the year, we will have a SF champion who has laid waste to one of the most impressive divisions in any promotion. And we will have a UFC champion that has one fight (either JDS or Cain).

So, if all goes as planned, which it may very well not, who do you have ranked at number 1 in the world? The UFC Champ, or the SF tournament Champion.
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January 5, 2011  10:55 AM ET

I think this is a great discussion question. I think it depends on how the tourny plays out. I don't know how the brackets line up, but if a series of upsets occur, I'm not prepared to rank Brett Rogers #1 because he beat Sergei Kharnitov, Andrei Arlovski, and Antonio Silva.

On the flip side, if Overeem is able to beat Werdum, Fedor, and then Barnett, I can't possibly fathom not ranking him number 1.

January 5, 2011  11:22 AM ET

Elite and Strikeforce do not belong in the same sentence. That Tourney is a joke. Barnett is no good any more. Fedor is a shell of his former self. Arlovski can't take a punch. Brett Rogers and Overeem are just strikers, Overeem is the only one I would call elite these days. Werdum is only dangerous on the ground and the jury is still out on Antonio Silva. And Kharitonov is pretty good. To me this isn't a tourney. Your have their top 2 ranked guys fighting each other first. Which should pretty much settle the tourney right there. I wonder when they are actually going to give Daniel Cormier a good fight. He absolutely destroyed everyone he has faced so far. Here are the 1st rd fights and who I think will win:
Overeem vs Werdum = Overeem via 2nd rd TKO

Silva vs Fedor = Fedor via 2nd rd sub

Rogers vs Barnett = Barnett via UD

Kharitonov vs Arlovski = Kharitonov via 1st rd KO

Then what do they do put:
Kharitonov vs Overeem
Fedor vs Barnett
So we can finally see Fedor vs Barnett and Fedor vs Overeem?

January 5, 2011  11:27 AM ET

JDS can also easily be #1 by the end of the year, if he wins the Interim title and also beats Velasquez in the unification bout.

January 5, 2011  11:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

JDS can also easily be #1 by the end of the year, if he wins the Interim title and also beats Velasquez in the unification bout.

You think they'll do an interim title? Who would JDS fight for it?

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January 5, 2011  11:55 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

Semis would be Fedor vs Overeem, (They are on same side of bracket) and Kharitonoz vs Barnett (On same side of bracket) based on your picks.

Just looked at the Bracket for the first time. So Brett Rogers has a great chance to make it to the finals. All he has to really do is beat Barnett. Which is very possible as long as he doesn't let Barnett take him down consistently. Pretty sure he can KO Arlovski(again) and Kharitonov. Bracket should be:

Overeem vs Werdum
Kharitonov vs Arlovski
and
Fedor vs Silva
Barnett vs Rogers.
But again terrible match making by the people at SF

January 5, 2011  11:59 AM ET
QUOTE(#5):

You think they'll do an interim title? Who would JDS fight for it?

Brock would be the only one I could see. Mir isn't close to a shot at the title until he gets at least 1 or 2 more wins. Roy Nelson just got beat by JDS. Carwin is injured. That leaves Brock. I would like to see Jon Madsen get a shot at a legit fighter.

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January 5, 2011  12:07 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I agree. Why the hell are the champ and #1 contender fighting in the first round? That makes zero sense.

Because its sf, they dont make any sense lol

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January 5, 2011  12:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Elite and Strikeforce do not belong in the same sentence. That Tourney is a joke. Barnett is no good any more. Fedor is a shell of his former self. Arlovski can't take a punch. Brett Rogers and Overeem are just strikers, Overeem is the only one I would call elite these days. Werdum is only dangerous on the ground and the jury is still out on Antonio Silva. And Kharitonov is pretty good. To me this isn't a tourney. Your have their top 2 ranked guys fighting each other first. Which should pretty much settle the tourney right there. I wonder when they are actually going to give Daniel Cormier a good fight. He absolutely destroyed everyone he has faced so far. Here are the 1st rd fights and who I think will win:Overeem vs Werdum = Overeem via 2nd rd TKOSilva vs Fedor = Fedor via 2nd rd subRogers vs Barnett = Barnett via UDKharitonov vs Arlovski = Kharitonov via 1st rd KOThen what do they do put:Kharitonov vs OvereemFedor vs Barnett So we can finally see Fedor vs Barnett and Fedor vs Overeem?

I agree, Overeen and Barnett (without seeing Barnett fight in SF) to me is the only Elite status fighter in HW that SF has while the rest are washed up.

January 5, 2011  12:12 PM ET
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Its like they have the best intentions in mind, and then just F it up, like always.

But yet Roni describe them as the best and greatest organization in the world over the ufc lol

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January 5, 2011  12:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

You think they'll do an interim title? Who would JDS fight for it?

Several websites reported an Interim title is in the works.

Against who, that's a tougher question...

January 5, 2011  12:45 PM ET
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I love the fights they put on, which he doesnt beleive. But, they just always seem to mess things up. The Nashville brawl. The MW grand Prix falling apart. The constant negotiating with M1. The production of the shows are clearly lacking. Not putting Fedor on a CBS card, instead putting him on Showtime. Just one screwup after another. But, be careful, if you say anything negative about them, then you are a hater.

Or the fact that the UFC doesnt cross promote makes them terrible, terrible I say, terrible lol

January 5, 2011  12:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Several websites reported an Interim title is in the works.Against who, that's a tougher question...

I would love to see Carwin vs Jds.

January 5, 2011  12:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

I agree, Overeen and Barnett (without seeing Barnett fight in SF) to me is the only Elite status fighter in HW that SF has while the rest are washed up.

Barnett is washed up too. It took him 3 rds of of full mount punches to make Gilbert Yvel tap out. I think he is still a very capable HW along with Fedor, who I think would destroy Werdum if they fought again. Like a said earlier I would like to see Daniel Cormier get a shot at top competition in SF.

 
January 5, 2011  12:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

I would love to see Carwin vs Jds.

Thing is, both Carwin and Lesnar are coming off losses. And between these two, Lesnar did beat Carwin.

And other than these 2, who deserves it?

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