Sorry for the sarcasm, but I just got done reading Mark Cuban's blog...
http://blogmaverick.com/2011/01/11/tcu-vs-auburn-wont-happen-and-more-on-t he-bcs/
... and its posted comments and I couldn't help myself
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Teams will play the post-regulation competition using the current NCAA Football overtime format with the winner being decided by the current rules of that format.
Excellent! But I have one suggestion. Instead of the NCAA overtime format, let's try the NFL regular season overtime format. Calling coin tosses is really an undervalued factor in determining a teams excellence.
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Excellent! But I have one suggestion. Instead of the NCAA overtime format, let's try the NFL regular season overtime format. Calling coin tosses is really an undervalued factor in determining a teams excellence.
LOL! Watching exhausted players crowd around a coin as it dances between heads and tails is one of the truly sublime moments of the NFL.
Just as the Oakland A's once carried a sprinter on the roster as a pinch runner specialist, maybe an NFL team will hire a psychic solely as a coin toss specialist?
Nice to get a bit of commentary from the "playoffs don't solve all the problems" crowd. We get so bombarded from the other side.
Those that support playoffs are a majority but are an extremely varied lot. Some are reasonable and propose reasonable formats and some only want to promote havoc for their enjoyment. I was reading a Throwdown about whether the NFL playoff system had failed by having an 11-5 team have to go on the road to play a 7-9 team. The arguer that said it had failed, made a supposition that playoffs should be set up in such a way that in most cases the best teams would reach the finals. This notion was shot down by the majority. He lost by a margin of 5 votes to every 1. Many of the voters felt that Seattle winning affirmed the system because people want to see upsets and the system was fair because it gave the weaker teams a chance. It's not how I want to see college football progressing.
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Nice to get a bit of commentary from the "playoffs don't solve all the problems" crowd. We get so bombarded from the other side.
I don't get the playoff crowd. -- "Every other sport has a playoff. We need to bring FBS in line with every other sport!" They fail to understand that all a playoff does is determine who is playing best right now. And, as you said, jp, they want to see the upsets. And if that is the purpose, there is no need to exclude anyone; all teams should be invited to the tournament.
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I don't get the playoff crowd. -- "Every other sport has a playoff. We need to bring FBS in line with every other sport!" They fail to understand that all a playoff does is determine who is playing best right now. And, as you said, jp, they want to see the upsets. And if that is the purpose, there is no need to exclude anyone; all teams should be invited to the tournament.
Not every team to the tournament, but every team in the FBS should have an equal shot, at the beginning of the season, to get into the tournament.
One of the travesties of the current system is you have half the teams playing for MAYBE 2 slots in the BCS and the NCG is just a pipedream
So if you don't advocate a playoff, then don't say that the winner of the BCS National Championship isn't really the NC because they didn't get to play TCU, or BSU, or PSU, or whatever. (not you personally)
If a team, playing within the current parameters as setup by the powers that be, wins those games needed, then they should be afforded the title without stipulation.
IMHO
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I don't get the playoff crowd. -- "Every other sport has a playoff.....
There's a reason every other sport has a playoff.
Years from now - a generation after a playoff is finally adopted by the FBS - people will look back on history at the BCS (or before) and say. "Deciding a champion by opinion polls... WTF was that about?"
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There's a reason every other sport has a playoff.Years from now - a generation after a playoff is finally adopted by the FBS - people will look back on history at the BCS (or before) and say. "Deciding a champion by opinion polls... WTF was that about?"
years from now will actually be decades from now...it is much more likely that if a new BCS contract can't be agreed on that we'll go back to the old bowl system.
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There's a reason every other sport has a playoff.
And that reason is its what the majority of fans want. But is a playoff the most accurate way of crowning the season's best team? No.
Who thinks Cam Newton, Kellen Moore, Andrew Luck, and LaMichael James should have been entered into a tournament to see who gets the Heisman Trophy? !!Steel Cage Death Match!! :-D
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I don't get the playoff crowd. -- "Every other sport has a playoff. We need to bring FBS in line with every other sport!" They fail to understand that all a playoff does is determine who is playing best right now.
So true. If only every other sport in the entire world would acknowledge the genius of the BCS and could realize their colossal mistake in actually allowing teams to compete for championships on the field of play.
<sigh>
It could be a true golden age of sport.
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because people want to see upsets and the system was fair because it gave the weaker teams a chance. It's not how I want to see college football progressing.
^^ This! Only teams from The Six should even be considered eligible for being voted "best."
Oh. And the last word of your post should have been "regressing."
And really only the FBS could regress as all the other divisions make the horrible mistake of having playoffs.
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years from now will actually be decades from now...it is much more likely that if a new BCS contract can't be agreed on that we'll go back to the old bowl system.
That would be preferable to the illusion that one game can decide a championship for 120 teams from 11 conferences.
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Nice to get a bit of commentary from the "playoffs don't solve all the problems" crowd. We get so bombarded from the other side.
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It's not how I want to see college football progressing.
JP, It seems the current BCS NCG a one round, seeded playoff, no?
Do you like the current BCS NCG, or do you favor abandoning the BCS and going back to traditional bowls, where Auburn would have played in the Sugar while Oregon faced Wisconsin in the Rose?
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^^ This! Only teams from The Six should even be considered eligible for being voted "best." Oh. And the last word of your post should have been "regressing." And really only the FBS could regress as all the other divisions make the horrible mistake of having playoffs.
And in a playoff scenario, Sun Belt Champ Florida International gets a shot at being National Champion even though they barely won half their games.
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And in a playoff scenario, Sun Belt Champ Florida International gets a shot at being National Champion even though they barely won half their games.
January madness, baby!
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It seems the current BCS NCG a one round, seeded playoff, no?
I'll agree with that. I would just like to see the NCG seeding occur after the traditional bowls
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the system was fair because it gave the weaker teams a chance. It's not how I want to see college football progressing.
If you aren't being sarcastic this sounds just a tad arrogant, don't you think?
If a program is good enough to get into the FBS, then it should also have the opportunity to play for the NCG should it fulfil the requirements (beating everyone else).
One of the great stories, and the reason a lot of people watch, the BB tourney is to root for a Butler.
Now I realize that this now becomes "which team is the best right now"...but that is the same if you limit this to the "Big 6"...only the team that is hot wins the tourny.
This year, Alabama would have had a real shot at winning the tourny...would that make them, with 3 losses, the National Champion? The best team inthe country for the year?
IMHO
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And in a playoff scenario, Sun Belt Champ Florida International gets a shot at being National Champion even though they barely won half their games.
The conferences would have to be realigned....perhaps make those 6 or 8 mega conferences everyone is talking about...and if a FIU get's their act together and beats everyone in their conference (which should include some power houses as well), then go FIU....hope you win.
But again...this would only show the best team "right now" and not the best team over the season...but then what scenario would provide the "best team overall"?
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If you aren't being sarcastic this sounds just a tad arrogant, don't you think?If a program is good enough to get into the FBS, then it should also have the opportunity to play for the NCG should it fulfil the requirements (beating everyone else).One of the great stories, and the reason a lot of people watch, the BB tourney is to root for a Butler.Now I realize that this now becomes "which team is the best right now"...but that is the same if you limit this to the "Big 6"...only the team that is hot wins the tourny.This year, Alabama would have had a real shot at winning the tourny...would that make them, with 3 losses, the National Champion? The best team inthe country for the year?IMHO
To me, it would make Alabama the Tournament Champion.
Any team can play in the NCG -- it's not like there's a rule preventing it. Yes, there is bias in the voters that is tough to overcome, but the computers are unbiased.
The best way, IMHO, to determine a best team over the whole season is a complete round-robin. Unfortunately, its not practical.
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