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January 18, 2011, 07:56 PM
I just stumbled over this link..
Didn't even see it all, but I guess it really says exactly what has been discussed here lately.

And no, this dude is not me :)



again, I haven't seen it all. If he stumbles and goes overboard I apologize. I just thought it was funny....
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January 19, 2011  08:28 AM ET
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Watched it. What exactly does he say that applies to whats been discussed here?

Jim c'mon where have you been. Matter of fact some of what he is saying is directed at you. And most of what he is saying is directed at UNO.

January 19, 2011  08:34 AM ET

HAHAHAHAHHA

January 19, 2011  09:19 AM ET

Roni, I thought you lived in Massachusetts (did I spell that right? I don't care cause thats where the Sawx and Celtics are from)

January 19, 2011  09:26 AM ET
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Roni, I thought you lived in Massachusetts (did I spell that right? I don't care cause thats where the Sawx and Celtics are from)

i thought roni was an old man? wrinkly loose tan skin smoking ciggs all the time...

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January 19, 2011  03:17 PM ET
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When did I say Strikeforce was crap and the fighters were no good? Never said it.

C'mon Jim we've all been on this site for a while and we know how you feel about Strikeforce vs UFC

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January 19, 2011  04:35 PM ET
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Like I said before I like all the SF cards, I watch them all. I like the fighters, I like the fights. I don't miss any of them, even the challengers cards. Never said I didn't. What I've said is that the UFC is just a better promotion then SF, and SF has issues they need to iron out. Some of you guys make me laugh. If you say anything negative about SF you get ur panties all in a bunch and you're a SF hater. There's not gray, only black and white with you.

Because you don't realize it takes time and resorces for a young organization to develope. Their was a time when the UFC was the little brother organization to PrideFC. PrideFC had the Better fighters, PrideFC paid better, PrideFC put on better cards, PrideFC shot itself in the foot with some financial decisions and decided to sell to the UFC. The UFC was the 2nd organization that had alot to iron out themselves and it took time. The UFC really became a juggernotin about '06-'07. about 15 years into their run. Strikeforce has been doing MMA for how long? Maybe 5 or 6 Give them a chance.

And Don't make me do the research on you bashing Strikeforce cause we know it's out there.
People get defensive because most of the Strikeforce bashers (not you alone and not always you jimj77, you are not the worst of them) just quote what Dana White Says without doing any research on there own. I know you respect the fighters in strikeforce but you talk about most of them as if they couldn't compete with the UFC fighters.

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January 19, 2011  05:34 PM ET

SF MMA started in 2006.

SF as a whole is much older, from the 80s, in fact.

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January 19, 2011  06:07 PM ET
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Right, wasn't sure what he meant.

"Strikeforce has been doing MMA for how long? Maybe 5 or 6 Give them a chance. "

Is what I wrote, whats so hard to understand?

Before MMA they were a Kickboxing Organization

January 19, 2011  07:37 PM ET
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Jim c'mon where have you been. Matter of fact some of what he is saying is directed at you. And most of what he is saying is directed at UNO.

ding ding ding!
A prize for the gentleman, please!

Now, just to be fair (I read the thread) and I agree with TD on this.
But I do have to say if anything was directed at Jim, is more just to poke fun at him. But like TD said, it is funny that people say "UFC this" and "UFC that" like they were not about to shut their doors when Forrest Griffin & Stephan Bonnar fight changed the things for them. And even with that, let's remember that Pride only went away not because of financial problems, but because they were involved with the yakuza in japan and so after that nobody wanted to be part of it, so that's when they went down.

So the thing here is that most UFC Zombies (or Jim) always say UFC is perfect when they forget they were once exactly what SF is now. The difference is that UFC had 2 multi-billionaire pumping money while SF stood up on their own foot by themselves.

And let's get one thing clear: I've always agreed SF needs to change things and the way they are too lax with their own fighters and thus shot themselves on their foot.
But I still prefer a promotion that allow inter-promotion fights as this is, IMO a billion times better for MMA as a sport.

In that respect, I do thing UFC thinks more about the money than making the sport better and more popular for all of us

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January 19, 2011  08:10 PM ET
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I think it's definitely all about the money for them, which means it's also all about popularity for a broader audience. But I agree that they're not overly concerned with making the sport better.

that's the thing.
They do thing already that are good for the sport. the lobby for opening in all US States, they are always pushing for improving referees, etc. Even if it is not their focus, I am greatfull for what they already do.

HOWEVER, I think that only by being critical of the things they don't do for the sport, like:

1) not allowing their fighters to be sponsored by non-UFC sponsors
2) not allowing their fighters to prove themselves outside UFC
but most of all
3) the idiotic bashing of other promotions and fighters who does not sign with UFC
and
4) the double-booking events on the same night of other promotions just to take viewers away from them.

What furstrates me are those zuffa zombies that are completely blind to those things, and more important, would rather have UFC break any competition just to say they watch the best promotion... when in fact they will be killing the sport

 
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