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Come on only one of them has the talent to go pro...Mike Adams

Accepted. Your punishment is to wear a vest and live with integrity for 1 hour. Then you can go back to living like an elephant. ;-)

QUOTE(#1):

Originally posted 12:18 PM ET  01.20 by Hippy Weed

Come on only one of them has the talent to go pro...Mike Adams

you really think those kids dont have the talent to play pro ball?? I respectfully disagree. Maybe they dont become stars or have long careers, but think all of them could make a squad and contribute.

QUOTE(#2):

Originally posted 12:30 PM ET  01.20 by Grue

Accepted. Your punishment is to wear a vest and live with integrity for 1 hour. Then you can go back to living like an elephant. ;-)

I have a gray-black houndstooth sweater vest that will do the job perfectly.

Just throw a scarlet t-shirt under that, and you're good.

:)

Big of you to apologize, so first off thank you you are a gentleman. I had posted many times that once Tressel had secured the "pledge" from these 5 guys to return or not play in the Sugar Bowl, then it was clear that they would all come back. To say that with the certainty that I did reflected the faith I have in Jim Tressel. This is a very cynical time we live in but the values exhibited by JT have made me proud to be a Buckeye.
I think Woody's Boy makes a good point in post #5 though. Tressel will have his hands full if the Bux are 5-0 with another starting qb.

Respect The Vest! Respect it!

Say what you will about the NCAA's punishment, you have to admire the integrity of Jim Tressel. He's always been a stand-up guy and is a credit to TOSU.

Oh yeah, elephants are wonderful, noble creatures. Be careful Grue... they never forget!

I think Tressel is a good man for this. A lot of respect for him. Even if he is a Buckeye.

I also owe Jim Tressel an apology.

I used to think he was completely ineffective coaching vs the SEC.

Now I only think he is ineffective coaching against them
in the second half!

QUOTE(#13):

Originally posted 07:54 PM ET  01.20 by GrandTheftHarley

You have distilled the essence of TresselBall. Come out smokin', build a lead, sit on it, play not to lose, play for field position, and make defense secure the win. I love the man, but AARRGG...

The guy has taken ten years off the life of every Buckeye fan. Drives me frickin nutz. He almost stepped in it again with that Sugar Bowl. U$C in Columbus was one time where this strategy backfired on him and it is likely to do it agains some day. When you have a good team down, step on their throat and never let them back in the game.

QUOTE(#4):

Originally posted 12:51 PM ET  01.20 by 84

you really think those kids dont have the talent to play pro ball?? I respectfully disagree. Maybe they dont become stars or have long careers, but think all of them could make a squad and contribute.

I am sure Denver would give all of these guy's a chance just like they did Maurice C!

First I will say that I am glad that the TAT5 had the chance to play in the Sugar Bowl...had they not, then the game would have forever been tainted as ""tOSU didn't have their best players". That being said, let's look at what happened.

1. The TAT5 were caught with enough evidence to get a suspension.
2. SOMEONE (either the AD or Sugar Bowl rep's) wanted the guys to play and discussed with the NCAA. (If Tressel was part of this discussion then he has no integrity as he was assisting in the TAT5 getting "away" with it concerning the biggest game of their life to date).
3. Loop hole was found and Tressel had no say at that point, in whether they could play or not...his hands were tied.
4. With his hands tied as they were, the only spin was to convince the guys to come back. He did this by playing on their loyalty to the tOSU program and it's storied history.

The TAT5 suspension AFTER the Sugar Bowl has made as big a joke of the NCAA as the Newton suspension and immediate re-instatement

IMHO

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Originally posted 01:58 PM ET  01.21 by BackRoads

First I will say that I am glad that the TAT5 had the chance to play in the Sugar Bowl...had they not, then the game would have forever been tainted as ""tOSU didn't have their best players". That being said, let's look at what happened.1. The TAT5 were caught with enough evidence to get a suspension.2. SOMEONE (either the AD or Sugar Bowl rep's) wanted the guys to play and discussed with the NCAA. (If Tressel was part of this discussion then he has no integrity as he was assisting in the TAT5 getting "away" with it concerning the biggest game of their life to date).3. Loop hole was found and Tressel had no say at that point, in whether they could play or not...his hands were tied.4. With his hands tied as they were, the only spin was to convince the guys to come back. He did this by playing on their loyalty to the tOSU program and it's storied history.The TAT5 suspension AFTER the Sugar Bowl has made as big a joke of the NCAA as the Newton suspension and immediate re-instatementIMHO

I know we hardly ever agree, but I totally agree with you on this one.

QUOTE(#17):

Originally posted 02:26 PM ET  01.21 by 84

I know we hardly ever agree, but I totally agree with you on this one.

::faint::

LOL

QUOTE(#16):

Originally posted 01:58 PM ET  01.21 by BackRoads

The TAT5 suspension AFTER the Sugar Bowl has made as big a joke of the NCAA as the Newton suspension and immediate re-instatement

So what will you think if the reduce O5U to 4 games?

QUOTE(#19):

Originally posted 03:04 PM ET  01.21 by Hippy Weed

So what will you think if the reduce O5U to 4 games?

More of a joke.....

NCAA has no teeth and the schools are just as bad. No matter what you say, these young men are being taught that you can get away with it....

Right now the 5 game suspension is really a 3 game suspension....I wouldn't say that not being able to play against Akron and Toledo is going to hurt them or anyone else....and if that gets reduced to 4.....

And I will say that the CN suspension was a joke.

If a player has done something to deserve a suspension, then they should be suspended and it should start immediately. Sugar Bowl or no. And the suspension should be more than a couple of hours.

CN suspension was like telling your kid they are grounded and then going into their room 5 minutes later and ungrounding them....learn NOTHING except how to skate thru life.

QUOTE(#19):

Originally posted 03:04 PM ET  01.21 by Hippy Weed

So what will you think if the reduce O5U to 4 games?

See I agree with the punishment, they screwed up and broke the rules...I dont agree with what they sold, but I also dont agree with the rule itself...so Im awash of the entire thing. they need to man up and serve it out.