NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Will the ESPN-Texas deal lead to ESPN-Florida or ESPN-USC deals?
January 21, 2011, 07:16 PM
Ok, with the new ESPN-Texas deal (and with the ESPN-BYU deal last summer), I think it is clear that ESPN is willing, and maybe even wants, to make deals with individual schools as their new business model.

SO, who else might make sense for a ESPN-Texas like deal?

ESPN-Florida? Gators are similar to the Longhorns in many ways ... national appeal, large TV audience, good in many sports, wealthy alumni, etc etc etc. I think a ESPN-Florida deal could be similar to the ESPN-Texas deal. Question is how that will play in the SEC?

ESPN-USC? Trojans are also a national audience, with large TV markets and lots of money.

What about an ESPN-SunShine State (with Florida, FSU, and Miami) deal?

Or an ESPN-Alabama (or ESPN-Alabama/Auburn) ... great on the football side, not so much on the Basketball and other sports side.

Oklahoma?
Oregon? (with Nike money from Phil Knight?)
Michigan? Ohio State? (probably not within the BigTen .....)

Just wondering if others think the ESPN-Texas deal is a model for other schools or just a one-time thing .....
January 21, 2011  07:54 PM ET

If the individual conferences will allow it and there is a big enough fan base............YES

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January 21, 2011  08:51 PM ET
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Frankly, I think a conference network makes more sense, but no one in Austin consulted with me for my opinion.

Agreed. It's one thing to make a deal like this with independent schools like Notre Dame or BYU. The deal with Texas is going to hasten the breakup of the Big ~12 in my opinion. There was already a huge discrepancy between the haves and have nots in that conference. Texas is just making it worse, and sooner or later the bigger schools are going to take the Nebraska option.

SEC would survive this, but I wouldn't want to be Vanderbilt or Kentucky if Florida and Bama cut their own deals.

January 21, 2011  11:25 PM ET
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SEC would survive this, but I wouldn't want to be Vanderbilt or Kentucky if Florida and Bama cut their own deals.

Shouldn't affect them at all. The SEC TV contracts would be honored first, so it might actually help them as a "Florida" network would only be able to televise games passed on by CBS and ESPN nationally.

January 21, 2011  11:29 PM ET

Does everyone understand that at this point, the deal doesn't really affect the Big 12 TV contract? Texas will only televise one game on it's own network and it won't be a good one. This won't change as long as they are a part of the Big 12. The problem will come if the network is successful enough for Texas to renegotiate the deal with ESPN for more money meaning it would be worth going independent. Alternatively, NBC could go to Texas and offer them $15 million a year like ND and Saturday on NBC could be Texas from 1-4 and ND from 4:30-8.

January 21, 2011  11:43 PM ET
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Does everyone understand that at this point, the deal doesn't really affect the Big 12 TV contract? Texas will only televise one game on it's own network and it won't be a good one. This won't change as long as they are a part of the Big 12. The problem will come if the network is successful enough for Texas to renegotiate the deal with ESPN for more money meaning it would be worth going independent. Alternatively, NBC could go to Texas and offer them $15 million a year like ND and Saturday on NBC could be Texas from 1-4 and ND from 4:30-8.

Check out Michael Rosenberg's column on this subject. Interesting stuff.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_rosenberg/01/20 /texas.tv/index.html

January 22, 2011  12:31 AM ET
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.... Pac doesn't allow outside TV deals by its individual member schools. They want a conference network similar to the one the Big 10(12) has. That's why the planned merger between the Pac and Big XII(10) South schools fell apart last summer....

That, and Larry Scott wanted schools to relinquish rights to all 3rd tier games and all streaming rights.

It was dumb to offer Big12 schools something as bad or worse than the restrictions they already had with the ABC/Fox contracts.

January 22, 2011  07:37 AM ET
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Check out Michael Rosenberg's column on this subject. Interesting stuff.http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/michael_rosenberg/01/2 0 /texas.tv/index.html

Wonder how they'll deal with the high school games? Part of me thinks it's not that big a deal but then I think about HS coaches doing whatever they can to get their team on TV. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

January 22, 2011  09:09 AM ET
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Wonder how they'll deal with the high school games? Part of me thinks it's not that big a deal but then I think about HS coaches doing whatever they can to get their team on TV. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

One thing for sure - this is a MASSIVE recruiting chip for Texas. They don't even have to open the doors to the kid's houses.

January 22, 2011  09:30 AM ET
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This won't change as long as they are a part of the Big 12.

So how long do you think the BIG 12 will be around, I think this is another indication the BIG 12 will be disbanded!

January 22, 2011  09:32 AM ET
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So how long do you think the BIG 12 will be around, I think this is another indication the BIG 12 will be disbanded!

The big 12 is a house of cards..........3 years max........

January 22, 2011  09:38 AM ET
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The big 12 is a house of cards..........3 years max........

Yep that is why you set up the deals and then join another conference in which you get you contract grandfathered along with the conference payoff!

January 22, 2011  10:06 AM ET
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So how long do you think the BIG 12 will be around, I think this is another indication the BIG 12 will be disbanded!

I think the future of the Big 12 depends on whether we get a Pac 16, a Big 16, etc. Without conferences expanding beyond 12 teams, there's no where for them to go. And as long as they have Texas and Oklahoma, they'll stay somewhat relevant.

Personally, I don't see conferences expanding anymore. It would really water down inter-division play within the conferences. We'd basically end up with twice the number of conferences and a lot of rivalries would be destroyed. I suspect Texas will just grow stronger and the rest of the group will hang on because there aren't better options.

January 22, 2011  11:29 AM ET
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One thing for sure - this is a MASSIVE recruiting chip for Texas. They don't even have to open the doors to the kid's houses.

Doubt it. Florida, USC, tOSU and all the other "established" powers get their games on national TV on a weekly basis already. It's not Notre Dame back in the 80's where they were the only school could guarantee that.

January 22, 2011  11:44 AM ET
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Doubt it. Florida, USC, tOSU and all the other "established" powers get their games on national TV on a weekly basis already. It's not Notre Dame back in the 80's where they were the only school could guarantee that.

They don't need the national tv. This is about recruiting within Texas. It's to their advantage to have their own station throughout Texas but I don't think it's unfair. What will be interesting is the power they'll have to make HS players TV stars in the state of Texas. This is where the recruiting advantage becomes unfair.

January 22, 2011  11:47 AM ET
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They don't need the national tv. This is about recruiting within Texas. It's to their advantage to have their own station throughout Texas but I don't think it's unfair. What will be interesting is the power they'll have to make HS players TV stars in the state of Texas. This is where the recruiting advantage becomes unfair.

And that's why OU wants their own network by 2011. I ONLY see this as a recruiting move.

January 22, 2011  12:11 PM ET
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They don't need the national tv. This is about recruiting within Texas. It's to their advantage to have their own station throughout Texas but I don't think it's unfair. What will be interesting is the power they'll have to make HS players TV stars in the state of Texas. This is where the recruiting advantage becomes unfair.

Was Texas really having a problem recruiting...Texas?

January 22, 2011  12:26 PM ET
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Was Texas really having a problem recruiting...Texas?

no but when there's 8 other universities in the state plus OU and OSU just to your north, wouldn't you take $15 million a year to solidify your advantage?

January 22, 2011  12:28 PM ET

^^^Sorry. it's $12.5 million. The $15 million is coming from the Big 12.

 
January 22, 2011  01:22 PM ET
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no but when there's 8 other universities in the state plus OU and OSU just to your north, wouldn't you take $15 million a year to solidify your advantage?

Check out Missouri's and Kansas' rosters too. TX kids make up the majority.

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