NFL  > Pittsburgh Steelers  > The Second Steeler Dynasty???
January 23, 2011, 05:03 PM
Most experts and serious fans see the offensive line as the foremost weakness the Steelers have. Even with the lost of Alan Faneca, they havve found their way back to the AFC Championship game.

Max Starks is the only starter (on either side of the ball) eligible for free agency after the season. Even with the foot work issues that Starks has in pass protection, I personally see Kemoeatu as the weakest link.

It seems to me that if the Steelers signed Nmandi Asomugha and picked up a better OG , even if in the draft, they would have the pieces to step up from annual contenders to being consistently the team to beat.

Asomugha publically expressed interest in being tetamed with Revis in NY...I'd bet the idea of being paired with Polamalu would be equally attractive.

Am I the only one that sees that scenario as being the groundwork to the second coming of a Steeler dynasty?
January 23, 2011  05:08 PM ET

The defense is pretty old. It won't be long until they are rebuilding, so I think this may be the last hurrah (maybe we can count next year in as well) before the Steelers go through some non-playoff years and losing seasons.

January 24, 2011  12:41 AM ET

"The defense is pretty old. It won't be long until they are rebuilding, so I think this may be the last hurrah (maybe we can count next year in as well) before the Steelers go through some non-playoff years and losing seasons."

Hey Rocker: I appreciate your opinion, but if you look over the Steelers roster, there are young players-in-waiting at alot of positions currently held by some senior players. The linebacking corp is rock solid, Polamalu has at least several years left in him, as does Clark. The D-line is the obvious concern, but look at Ziggy...he could play any of the 3 DL positions. Both Big Snack and A-Smith will come back next year. They gotta hang onto Ike Taylor, but they have options, including hanging onto BMac at the other corner. Just look a how this "bunch of washed up old guys" stonewalled the Jets for about 3 qtrs. Take away an Ike Taylor falldown that let Santonio Holmes run virtually untouched down the sidelines for an EASY TD, and the Jets only scored when turnovers gave them short fields.....I don't see as much gloom and doom as many so-called "experts."



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January 24, 2011  08:53 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

"The defense is pretty old. It won't be long until they are rebuilding, so I think this may be the last hurrah (maybe we can count next year in as well) before the Steelers go through some non-playoff years and losing seasons."Hey Rocker: I appreciate your opinion, but if you look over the Steelers roster, there are young players-in-waiting at alot of positions currently held by some senior players. The linebacking corp is rock solid, Polamalu has at least several years left in him, as does Clark. The D-line is the obvious concern, but look at Ziggy...he could play any of the 3 DL positions. Both Big Snack and A-Smith will come back next year. They gotta hang onto Ike Taylor, but they have options, including hanging onto BMac at the other corner. Just look a how this "bunch of washed up old guys" stonewalled the Jets for about 3 qtrs. Take away an Ike Taylor falldown that let Santonio Holmes run virtually untouched down the sidelines for an EASY TD, and the Jets only scored when turnovers gave them short fields.....I don't see as much gloom and doom as many so-called "experts." Read more: http://www.fannation.com/message_boards/show_topic/313803-the-second-steel er-dynasty#ixzz1BvaVp7KB

The problem is those young guys need to cut their teeth in the NFL. I would say there would at least be one losing season as the gain experience. Maybe a first half disaster and a late season surge as the young guys start coming in.

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January 24, 2011  10:48 AM ET

Your comment makes a point we should all be working on, the O line. They have been the highlight of the game and the downfall in other cases. However, with the players and knowledge they have those rookies can be taught the ropes fast. The thing we need to focus on is getting the quality players in and teaching them. It dosent take years, those rookies that come in and shine are the ones who have the desire to be great. As for our D getting old.. lol. What makes you think youth has to do with stamina and strenght? The average 35 year old man has more than any 25 year old. Why are we so good? We are a tight knit, well coached and older bunch who have settled in to what we are doing. Once you get settled in and learn your role, you can find the niches and gliches of the line. The "TEAM" has that effort and knowledge, they know each others strenght and weakness and when to step up at the right time when they pick up on either. Thats what age does for you, thats why we are successful. As far as the last hooray, I think not. If you feed the fire, it just grows.
It would be nice to get a few choice players in to back up the mains though.

And everyone thought we were crazy taking a center as our 1st round draft pick.
lol
Whose laughing now?

January 24, 2011  10:49 AM ET

Your comment makes a point we should all be working on, the O line. They have been the highlight of the game and the downfall in other cases. However, with the players and knowledge they have those rookies can be taught the ropes fast. The thing we need to focus on is getting the quality players in and teaching them. It dosent take years, those rookies that come in and shine are the ones who have the desire to be great. As for our D getting old.. lol. What makes you think youth has to do with stamina and strenght? The average 35 year old man has more than any 25 year old. Why are we so good? We are a tight knit, well coached and older bunch who have settled in to what we are doing. Once you get settled in and learn your role, you can find the niches and gliches of the line. The "TEAM" has that effort and knowledge, they know each others strenght and weakness and when to step up at the right time when they pick up on either. Thats what age does for you, thats why we are successful. As far as the last hooray, I think not. If you feed the fire, it just grows.
It would be nice to get a few choice players in to back up the mains though.

And everyone thought we were crazy taking a center as our 1st round draft pick.
lol
Whose laughing now?

January 24, 2011  10:50 AM ET

The reason the Jets lost plain and simply is that they forgot how to tackle in the first half.

January 24, 2011  11:28 AM ET
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I don't remember much complaining about picking Pouncey. Quite the opposite, in fact.

Yeah, as I remember everyone was relieved we were finally fixing the O-line issue.

January 24, 2011  01:05 PM ET

No question at all, yes this is the Second Steeler Dynasty.
best teams by decade:
1970's & 80's- Steelers (4 SB-wins) & Raiders (3-SB wins)
1980's & 90's- 49ers (5 SB-wins), Cowboys (4), Giants (2) & Redskins (3)
2000's and counting- Steelers (2 + ?) & Patriots (3)

Overall
San Francisco 5-0 perfect [1000%]

Steelers at 6 wins and 1 loss plus SB XLV? [.857] *

Redskins at 3 wins and 2 losses [.600]
Raiders the same 3-2 [.600]
Dallas at 4 wins and 4 losses [.500] *
* most SB appearances

January 24, 2011  01:26 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

No question at all, yes this is the Second Steeler Dynasty.best teams by decade:1970's & 80's- Steelers (4 SB-wins) & Raiders (3-SB wins)1980's & 90's- 49ers (5 SB-wins), Cowboys (4), Giants (2) & Redskins (3)2000's and counting- Steelers (2 + ?) & Patriots (3)OverallSan Francisco 5-0 perfect [1000%]Steelers at 6 wins and 1 loss plus SB XLV? [.857] *Redskins at 3 wins and 2 losses [.600]Raiders the same 3-2 [.600]Dallas at 4 wins and 4 losses [.500] ** most SB appearances

I would love to see the Raiders become a force again. The Ravens have taken their place as the dirty, hard hitting team. However, I like the Raiders, the Ravens just piss me off.

January 24, 2011  02:21 PM ET

@ Mongo Black

The Dallas Cowgirls are 5-3 [.625] in Superbowls. They won 2 in the 70's and 3 out of 4 years in the 90's.

January 24, 2011  05:18 PM ET
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What does Alan Faneca have to do with anything?

The lose of Faneca was the beginning of the slide to where the line currently is. Honestly, I think the line is more maligned than they deserve, given that injuries and instability have as much to do with their production as any other factor.

However, there does need to be an upgrade in pass protection. Strength and size are great advantages for the running game, but without some dramatic improvement in the footwork and drop back protection. I'm not even completely sure I wouldn't be looking at replacing Kugler. I never really was more than luke warm with his selection as OL coach.

I'd even consider taking a OT and moving Colon inside to guard when he comes back as an improvement.

While there has been much discussion about the age of the defense, I can't see it being a terrible trade off if we saw the running defense slip to 2nd or even 3rd if the pass coverage climbed up to 3rd or 4th. I think the overall effect would be fearsome.

Imagine...Polamalu, Clark, Asomugha, Taylor, with Gay as a nickel back. That seems to be the best way to beat New England next year.

January 24, 2011  07:58 PM ET
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The Steelers have a great team but they're getting old. The Packers are good & young and should be dominant the next few seasons.

I agree with you. People here don't understand that players do retire in their 30's lol.

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January 24, 2011  09:22 PM ET

The fact that the Steelers are going to the SB with an OL consisting of 1/5 of the original "starters" and a DL without their best overall player for practically the entire season, just illustrates what I said above. Yes, some of the starters are a bit "long in the tooth" but, I don't hear anybody running their mouth off about Ray Lewis, do I? The fact remains that the core group of starters can play fr another few yeas at least, that is plenty of time to develop future starters throught the draft and exploit FA for the right opportunity. However, I for one, do NOT think Asomugha makes alot of sense for the Steelers.....

January 24, 2011  09:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#20):

The fact that the Steelers are going to the SB with an OL consisting of 1/5 of the original "starters" and a DL without their best overall player for practically the entire season, just illustrates what I said above. Yes, some of the starters are a bit "long in the tooth" but, I don't hear anybody running their mouth off about Ray Lewis, do I? The fact remains that the core group of starters can play fr another few yeas at least, that is plenty of time to develop future starters throught the draft and exploit FA for the right opportunity. However, I for one, do NOT think Asomugha makes alot of sense for the Steelers.....

I know that Steelers hate trading for big names, but I think Clay Matthews is the perfect replacement for an aging Harrison. I also like Owen Marecic and would love if the Steelers would draft him for linebacker. I think they should look into getting a full time full back. They haven't had a good full back since Dan Kreider.

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January 25, 2011  02:30 PM ET
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Yeah, because GB would be willing to trade a DPOY candidate and the cornerstone of their defense...Keep on dreaming.

I will!

 
January 25, 2011  02:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#21):

I know that Steelers hate trading for big names, but I think Clay Matthews is the perfect replacement for an aging Harrison. I also like Owen Marecic and would love if the Steelers would draft him for linebacker. I think they should look into getting a full time full back. They haven't had a good full back since Dan Kreider.

Aging Harrison? I haven't seen any drop off in his play and he signed for a while too.

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