NFL  > Chicago Bears  > Hurry up and say your piece Cutler Haters.
January 29, 2011, 12:34 AM
Yup, you better say it and do a good job of it because after this year it will be obvious to all what kind of fools you really are. I think this is all related to the Denver people being upset origionally because they know in the backs of their minds their team goofed and can't do anything about it. So they try to submarine a Pro Bowl PROVEN QB so that they and their team doesn't look so stupid. But now this offseason for the first time in Jay's Pro Career, he will have the same OC for two seasons. This with improved players around him, (Especially with a full draft and free agency.) it's going to make it easy for him to prove himself and take the Bears to the NFC Championship game again VERY SOON. Possibly to the Super Bowl the next time with a great big Victory!!! He led the Bears to an NFC Championship in only his second season with the Bears so I see some jealous fans out there too. All of Martz's explayers have said that it takes 2 to 2 1/2 seasons to get Martz's system down. This upcoming year will be year TWO. I also believe that there's a ProBowl for Cutler coming soon, so to all you haters out there, your fun is about to end, so Jump on the "I Hate Jay Bandwagon" and say it now, or look like the fools you really are!!! Because by the end of this next season or at the ABSOLUTE most, the season afterwards, everyone will know the truth about Jay Cutler and YOU!!! Go BEARS!!!
January 29, 2011  02:55 AM ET

my gf's a Chargers fan and i'm a Packers fan, so naturally i'm not a huge Cutler fan ;), but i will admit that he's very talented and am looking forward to watching him and A-Rod, and as an extension of that, the bears and the pack!

January 29, 2011  05:43 AM ET

I have nothing against Cutler. Nothing at all. I did follow the Denver thing, but that was just as much McDaniels's doing as it was anyone else's. Bowlen had a hand in that as well. That is done and over with, and should be laid to rest. Same with this "laying it down" in the championship game. It's also done and over with, and can't be changed, so why keep riding that horse?
I'd like to see ALL 32 teams become competitive, so that there would be better games, but that will never be the case when you have owners who are over controlling, others who are penny pinchers, and some even incompetent.
That's just the way I look at it.

January 29, 2011  09:50 AM ET

Bears offensive YPG:

2010: 289.4 30th in NFL with Martz the "Genius"

2009: 310.3 23rd in NFL with Turner the "moron"

The great Jay Cutler and Mike Martz lead the Bears to a 28th ranked passing offense despite ZERO injuries of significance. Yup the Bears are tearing it up with their "lights out" offense. Do you know why the Packers beat the Bears despite having the most players in the NFL on IR? Because the Bears have zero players who would start on the Packers offense if Grant and Finley were healthy. The Bears are coming off the luckiest season in NFL history and will come back to earth with a thud next year. Their defense, which is what carried them this year, is already old and will only be older next year.

Bears=textbook first to worst.

January 29, 2011  10:23 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Bears offensive YPG:2010: 289.4 30th in NFL with Martz the "Genius"2009: 310.3 23rd in NFL with Turner the "moron"The great Jay Cutler and Mike Martz lead the Bears to a 28th ranked passing offense despite ZERO injuries of significance. Yup the Bears are tearing it up with their "lights out" offense. Do you know why the Packers beat the Bears despite having the most players in the NFL on IR? Because the Bears have zero players who would start on the Packers offense if Grant and Finley were healthy. The Bears are coming off the luckiest season in NFL history and will come back to earth with a thud next year. Their defense, which is what carried them this year, is already old and will only be older next year. Bears=textbook first to worst.

Yes...b/c yds per game obviously equal success, right? Get real.

Half of the top ten teams with the most yds per game didn't even make the playoffs.

January 29, 2011  10:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Yes...b/c yds per game obviously equal success, right? Get real.Half of the top ten teams with the most yds per game didn't even make the playoffs.

My point
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The point was that the Bears offense did take them this far, their aging defense did. Also people love to anoint Mike Martz as an offensive genius despite the fact he hasn't had any real success in nearly a decade. You can pretend that the Bears are built for the future but all they really did this year was get Lovie Smith a contract extension. The Bears have needs at corner, o-line, wr, and a power back. Not to mention that their d-line is moving over the hill as is their LB core and their only reliable safety, Chris Harris, is going to be a ninth year vet. The Bears are a team that lucked on a number of games this year (DET, GB, @MIA, @MIN) the also played ONE playoff team on the road, @GB, a game they lost. The Bears had a perfect storm for success, back up and third string QBs, a cake road schedule, lucky breaks, playing a 7-9 team at home in the playoffs to get to the championship game. Seriously how does their luck continue into next year? The Bears are the least talented team in the division.

January 29, 2011  10:39 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Yes...b/c yds per game obviously equal success, right? Get real.Half of the top ten teams with the most yds per game didn't even make the playoffs.

How many teams in the bottom half (17-32) made the playoffs?

A. 2, the Bears and the 7-9 Seahawks. So YPG might have something to do with success.

January 29, 2011  10:40 AM ET
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How many teams in the bottom half (17-32) made the playoffs?A. 2, the Bears and the 7-9 Seahawks. So YPG might have something to do with success.

three the Ravens too

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January 29, 2011  08:03 PM ET

I was sure someone would question the fact of just how offensive the Bear's offense was this last year. Yes I and many others have said that the Bear's Defense and Special teams got them to the NFC Championship. However the Bears Historically have a good or better defense. (It's one of Papa Bear's strongest beliefs of D and Specials first.) It's only in the years that we have had a QB (McMahon and Cutler) that we have been a real threat to win the Super Bowl. So, even if this team's offense isn't that good statistily they still are good enough to win us some games here and there on their own, something which the Bears have rarely had before. With only better to come in the future (spelled out earlier) I think most people and teams are really worried that the Bears might really have the right idea to win a (or multiple)Super Bowl/s in the near future. To be honest I think they are scared and they don't want the Bears to get an offense at least in the top 10 in the NFL. It will take time, but if they don't accomplish this feat in 2011 then it's almost going to be a gimmie in 2012!! Keeping our D and Specials and we really are a scary team to our opponents, add in an offense and they doubt if they can beat us at all!!! So now I think you know the "real reason" of why all the Cutler haters are playing this charade/game!!! Go BEARS!!!

January 29, 2011  08:05 PM ET

To sum the above up in just a few words the Cutler haters don't want a Pittsburgh like dynasty in the NFC North in CHICAGO!!! It would be ok if it was in their town but not in Chicago!!! Go BEARS!!!

January 29, 2011  08:36 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I was sure someone would question the fact of just how offensive the Bear's offense was this last year. Yes I and many others have said that the Bear's Defense and Special teams got them to the NFC Championship. However the Bears Historically have a good or better defense. (It's one of Papa Bear's strongest beliefs of D and Specials first.) It's only in the years that we have had a QB (McMahon and Cutler) that we have been a real threat to win the Super Bowl. So, even if this team's offense isn't that good statistily they still are good enough to win us some games here and there on their own, something which the Bears have rarely had before. With only better to come in the future (spelled out earlier) I think most people and teams are really worried that the Bears might really have the right idea to win a (or multiple)Super Bowl/s in the near future. To be honest I think they are scared and they don't want the Bears to get an offense at least in the top 10 in the NFL. It will take time, but if they don't accomplish this feat in 2011 then it's almost going to be a gimmie in 2012!! Keeping our D and Specials and we really are a scary team to our opponents, add in an offense and they doubt if they can beat us at all!!! So now I think you know the "real reason" of why all the Cutler haters are playing this charade/game!!! Go BEARS!!!

i agree that the Bears will get better, but by the same logic so will other teams...I mean, imagine the Packers with a full team? Finley and Grant give that offense a whole new dynamic...i do think that the Bears will get better, but i think others will as well, such as Tampa Bay, and to an extent the Lions and Rams (not as quick as the Bears and Bucs, but the idea's there)...

January 29, 2011  10:21 PM ET

I must be dumb, ignorant, and stupid, because I have no idea of who,what, or where, you are talking about old#4. ???

January 30, 2011  10:19 AM ET

Soooooo kind 007.

January 30, 2011  10:26 AM ET

As far as the Bears getting better there are 3 free agents "I" have my eye on that "I'm" planning on bringing in, Logan Mankins OG, Plaxico Burris WR, and Nnamdi Asomugha CB. With their addition and a full draft I say let the other teams get better. We will out coach them as long as we keep our 4 incredibly good assistant coaches, and we will out play them with our personel. Then there's the fact that everyone will have been in Martz's system for another offseason. Quite simply good luck!!! lol. Hey I can dream can't I. I just hope that the reality is close to my dreaming especially on getting the 3 free agents!!! The other is going to happen no matter what as long as we keep our coaches. Go BEARS!!!

January 30, 2011  10:27 AM ET

Notice 007 I didn't rib you about your team!!!

January 30, 2011  11:24 AM ET

For anyone interested in the draft here at SI is an article by Tobias J. Moskowitz and L. Jon Wertheim "The Curse of the #1 draft pick. Superb. I really hope that J.A. reads and follows it's wisdom. One other draft note. I think (So I could be wrong.) but the most sucessfull pick that JA has taken in his time at the Bears has been Matt Forte a SECOND round pick!!! Go BEARS!!!

January 30, 2011  12:04 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

My point.....Your headThe point was that the Bears offense did take them this far, their aging defense did. Also people love to anoint Mike Martz as an offensive genius despite the fact he hasn't had any real success in nearly a decade. You can pretend that the Bears are built for the future but all they really did this year was get Lovie Smith a contract extension. The Bears have needs at corner, o-line, wr, and a power back. Not to mention that their d-line is moving over the hill as is their LB core and their only reliable safety, Chris Harris, is going to be a ninth year vet. The Bears are a team that lucked on a number of games this year (DET, GB, @MIA, @MIN) the also played ONE playoff team on the road, @GB, a game they lost. The Bears had a perfect storm for success, back up and third string QBs, a cake road schedule, lucky breaks, playing a 7-9 team at home in the playoffs to get to the championship game. Seriously how does their luck continue into next year? The Bears are the least talented team in the division.

Then say what your point is. Not some mis-guided attempt at an excuse, like this post, and then come back acting like your point was missed b/c you never put it out there to begin with. All I see are excuses. Luck, aging players, schedule, poor offense, only won b/c of defense, ect...

No one in the thread has claimed that the Bears made the NFC Champ based on their offense. You should like the rest of the sheep.

January 30, 2011  12:29 PM ET

Well now we shall see if I'm nuts or not next year, if the Bears fall apart right? Meaning that if they don't have a good season and fail to get into the playoffs then you are right. And if they get back into the playoffs again then I'm right. What I was trying to say (obviously unsucessfully) was that for the first time since McMahon that the Bears offense actually won us a game or two. Plus in the future our offense will have to be considered by other teams. Meaning comebacks from being behind in games are just a matter of time. I really think with another year's worth of coaching Martz will have a huge impact on the Bears offense. Didn't you see what his former players said that it will take 2 to 2 1/2 years to get the offense to working right? Next season will be #2 and will coincidentally be the first time that Jay has had the same offensive Co-ordinator for two seasons in the NFL. This will make a difference and I for one expect it to be obvious to all of these people who doubt the Bears/Cutler/Martz. You do have a point that our Defense is ageing but I'm sure that the Bears are just as aware of this as we are. If this isn't clear enough I'll try again. Go BEARS!!!

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