MMA  > General MMA  > Dana Screws Okami
February 6, 2011, 05:43 PM
... yet another guaranteed fight scratched because Dana saw the color of money....

While I don't agree with the thone anti-dana, it does have a lot of valid points.

http://ringsiderep ort.com/?p=7324

And IMO it states more or less exactly what I've said before... Between Money and the sport, UFC follows the money. No if's or But's about it.
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February 6, 2011  06:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Dana has always said he makes the fights fans want to see.

I disagree.
This is not WWE.
This is a sport.
And as such, there should be some rules. Okami won the top contenders and was clearly the guy in line for the next title fight.

I disagree with these shortcuts.

It is the same as saying Pittsburgh is a nice team, but New England brings more fans, so they will go to the superbowl instead.... how would you like that? (Well, maybe you would, but you know what I mean. As a sport it makes little sense to have these changes).

February 6, 2011  06:11 PM ET

let's also not forget that Okami was the last one to get a win over Silva (DQ due to illegal kick from the bottom).

So if anyone deserves a fight, it's Okami!

February 6, 2011  07:15 PM ET

Only Roni could find a negative in this story.

February 6, 2011  07:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Only Roni could find a negative in this story.

I stand corrected.
I see that resident FN genius snakerattle is also suddenly an Okami defender.

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February 6, 2011  07:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

By the looks of this game it probably would've been better had new england been in it instead of pitt

Haha. True.

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February 6, 2011  07:25 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

I think rattlesnake is actually scott coker

Scott Coker on meth, maybe.

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February 6, 2011  07:54 PM ET
QUOTE(#6):

By the looks of this game it probably would've been better had new england been in it instead of pitt

might be better for the fans, but it would kill the sport.

I mean, why have a top 5 or top contender if at the end Dana will pick whoever he feels like?
This is not a sport then, it is a show. You can't just think about the money.
You make the sport become serious, and the revenue will come.

IMO by feeding to the brain dead zombies only, it is a short lived maneuver that will keep the sport down in the eye of any critic.

February 7, 2011  06:39 PM ET

I don't have a problem with this fight IF Okami is still getting a title shot, against whoever.

February 7, 2011  09:11 PM ET
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might be better for the fans, but it would kill the sport.I mean, why have a top 5 or top contender if at the end Dana will pick whoever he feels like?This is not a sport then, it is a show. You can't just think about the money.You make the sport become serious, and the revenue will come.IMO by feeding to the brain dead zombies only, it is a short lived maneuver that will keep the sport down in the eye of any critic.

You're just looking for an excuse to whine about Dana.

Seeing the P4P number 1 and number is a special moment for the sport and will bring lots of new media and fans to the event.

You are only defending Okami because Dana had him in line for a shot. Noboby really wants to see Okami at this point and you know it.

February 7, 2011  09:11 PM ET

P4P number 1 and number 2*

February 7, 2011  09:15 PM ET
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You are only defending Okami because Dana had him in line for a shot. Noboby really wants to see Okami at this point and you know it.

Spot on, Yoda!

Like I just posted on another thread:

I am not against a mega fight. it would be silly to say I prefer Okami & Silva than a mega-fight against GSP (or bones or Rua, etc).
I just want it to be fair to the guys who fought their butts off to get to #1 spot.

February 8, 2011  11:14 AM ET

I don't see how a Silva - Okami fight is better for the sport than a Silva - GSP fight.

IMO GSP - Silva is better for the fans, better for the UFC & better for the sport of MMA.

February 8, 2011  12:03 PM ET
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I don't see how a Silva - Okami fight is better for the sport than a Silva - GSP fight.IMO GSP - Silva is better for the fans, better for the UFC & better for the sport of MMA.

Like I noted, I agree it is a better fight for all.
but if you want this to be a serious sport, you can't change a title fight because the other one gives a bigger payday or have more insterest from the fans.

Like you wouldn't take Pittsburg out and put the Pats on the Superbowl just because people like them better...

Like you wouldn't have the baseball finals of Yankees & Red sox just because of the rivalry...

In any sports no one takes the most famous to get to the title just because they give a higher pay. it shouldn't happen on MMA neither.

Again, that's from the MMA as a sport standpoint.
I obviously do agree it would be a bigger fight.

February 8, 2011  12:18 PM ET
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In any sports no one takes the most famous to get to the title just because they give a higher pay. it shouldn't happen on MMA neither.

Boxing?

College Football?

Any sport where there are set rules for titles or match-ups you can't change the set formula. Thats not the case in MMA. So you are comparing apples to oranges.

You would be in an uproar if a fighter with a 2-3 fight losing streak got a title fight...yet it hapens in football (where a team can lose its last 2-3 games and still get into the playoffs.)

 
February 8, 2011  01:09 PM ET
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Boxing?College Football?Any sport where there are set rules for titles or match-ups you can't change the set formula. Thats not the case in MMA. So you are comparing apples to oranges.You would be in an uproar if a fighter with a 2-3 fight losing streak got a title fight...yet it hapens in football (where a team can lose its last 2-3 games and still get into the playoffs.)

not really.

I think you are the one doing it (comparing apples with orange).
yes, a team can go to playoffs with a losing record. HOWEVER, the issue here is that they have a set formula, and they do not deviate.

it should apply for MMA also.

The guy fight for a #1 contender spot. he should not be taken out just because another fighter brings more money/viewers to the table. This is the wrong reason.
If the fighter gets injured, then so be it (like Bones instead of Rashad... although i would rather have a top 5 guy replacing Rashad).

And don't think I am complaining because it is UFC. I have an issue of a loser fighting for the belt (i.e. if Fedor would fight AO for the belt after losing to Werdum).

Again, I am not against the mega-fight. but it should either not be for the belt, or it should have been AFTER the clear #1 contender had his chance.

And I really don't see how bad it would be.
Let Okami fight Silva in August in Brazil. Give a middle of the pack to GSP on his new weight class. Then have the showdown with Silva by the end of the year.
This would work also, no one would be stepped over and you would have both fights.

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