NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Cam Newton's upside
March 19, 2011, 10:48 PM
Where do you come out on him? Agree with the commentary?

http://southernpigskin.com/SEC/view/number-one-for-number -two
March 19, 2011  11:07 PM ET

Uhhhh...don't care?

March 19, 2011  11:42 PM ET

what?

March 20, 2011  03:20 AM ET

Cam Neely was great in Dumb and Dumber.

March 20, 2011  07:13 AM ET

Interestingly enough:

'Cam' is a common abbreviation for 'camshaft' - a component of an internal combustion engine.

The 'Camshaft' lifts the rockers of the intake and exhaust valves via it's lobes.
The shape (or angle) of the lobes on the 'camshaft' determine how quickly the intake and exhaust valves open and close - which, in turn, effects the power (or torque) the engine will produce at varying rpm's.
Different camshafts can be used to produce better torque (acceleration) at different speeds.


Also, interestingly enough:
The 'Newton' is a measure of force.
Force is a measure of the amount of energy required to move a certain mass over a certain distance over a certain amount of time.


So how do we tie in the 'Cam' and the 'Newton'?

March 20, 2011  07:58 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Interestingly enough: 'Cam' is a common abbreviation for 'camshaft' - a component of an internal combustion engine.The 'Camshaft' lifts the rockers of the intake and exhaust valves via it's lobes. The shape (or angle) of the lobes on the 'camshaft' determine how quickly the intake and exhaust valves open and close - which, in turn, effects the power (or torque) the engine will produce at varying rpm's. Different camshafts can be used to produce better torque (acceleration) at different speeds. Also, interestingly enough:The 'Newton' is a measure of force. Force is a measure of the amount of energy required to move a certain mass over a certain distance over a certain amount of time.So how do we tie in the 'Cam' and the 'Newton'?

The cam creates the newtons to move a car?

March 20, 2011  10:47 AM ET

Cam from modern family...love him as the clown and opera singer. I think his roll had him as a former Ill O-lineman or am I thinking about Dick Butkus?

March 20, 2011  01:52 PM ET

CM's upset? Well hell he's an entertainer AND icon! Enough said.

March 20, 2011  02:25 PM ET
QUOTE:

Where do you come out on him? Agree with the commentary?
http://southernpigskin.com/SEC/view/number-one-for-number-two

From the article: "... but Newton is worth the number one overall pick."

No he is not worth the #1 overall pick. NFL teams can't afford to spend a top 10 pick on a player that can't come in right away and contribute. He's a development player, and this is not college football with the luxury of an 85-man roster to cover your recruiting mistakes. Yes he has tremendous upside but development players are not top 10 material. Some desperate team will make him a high pick though.

March 20, 2011  04:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

From the article: "... but Newton is worth the number one overall pick."No he is not worth the #1 overall pick. NFL teams can't afford to spend a top 10 pick on a player that can't come in right away and contribute. He's a development player, and this is not college football with the luxury of an 85-man roster to cover your recruiting mistakes. Yes he has tremendous upside but development players are not top 10 material. Some desperate team will make him a high pick though.

Cleveland, Cincy, DeadSkins

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March 20, 2011  09:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Nice try, but your definition of force is not even close to being correcta Force is nothing more than a push or pull upon an object, and the object does not have to move (press your hand against a wall--you are applying a force but the wall does not move)in particular, Force is NOT a measure of energy as you have stated...ain't pub ic skool edukashun wonderful?

new??ton??? ???/??nutn, ??nyutn/ Show Spelled
[noot-n, nyoot-n] Show IPA

???noun Physics .
the SI unit of force, equal to the force that produces an acceleration of one meter per second per second on a mass of one kilogram. Abbreviation: N

Looks to me talking about energy required to move something....but then I probably don't have the public education you have....

Newton

March 21, 2011  01:06 AM ET

From his wonderlick I would say the upside is actually limited-does he have what it takes to learn a complete NFL playbook or is his value simply tied to his knees and ankles (and certain to diminish rapidly over time).

March 21, 2011  09:40 AM ET
QUOTE:

May the Force be with you!

Bah, the Schwartz is more powerful and comes in easy-to-use ring form.

March 21, 2011  12:27 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Nice try, but your definition of force is not even close to being correcta Force is nothing more than a push or pull upon an object, and the object does not have to move (press your hand against a wall--you are applying a force but the wall does not move)

in particular, Force is NOT a measure of energy as you have stated...ain't public skool edukashun wonderful?

You are correct in saying that force is not the same as energy, but the two are most definitely related.

In your example of pushing your hand against a wall, the wall is exerting a force equal and opposite to the force of your hand. However, there IS energy involved: your hand is being compressed as it pushes against the wall; when you stop pushing, your hand will be restored to its normal shape. There is potential energy stored in your hand.

A more obvious example of potential energy resulting from equal and opposite forces would be if you used your hand to push against a spring. In this case, the compression (of the spring) is much more noticeable. You can push just enough to keep your hand and the spring motionless, so there is no movement. But as soon as you release your hand, the spring will release its stored potential energy and umm, spring back.

So Crazy's original statement should have read:

Force is a measure of the rate of change of a certain mass over a certain distance over a certain amount of time.

And energy is the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems.

 
March 21, 2011  12:30 PM ET
QUOTE(#18):

You are correct in saying that force is not the same as energy, but the two are most definitely related. In your example of pushing your hand against a wall, the wall is exerting a force equal and opposite to the force of your hand. However, there IS energy involved: your hand is being compressed as it pushes against the wall; when you stop pushing, your hand will be restored to its normal shape. There is potential energy stored in your hand.A more obvious example of potential energy resulting from equal and opposite forces would be if you used your hand to push against a spring. In this case, the compression (of the spring) is much more noticeable. You can push just enough to keep your hand and the spring motionless, so there is no movement. But as soon as you release your hand, the spring will release its stored potential energy and umm, spring back.So Crazy's original statement should have read:Force is a measure of the rate of change of a certain mass over a certain distance over a certain amount of time.And energy is the ability a physical system has to do work on other physical systems.

Wrong-everyone knows you Spring forward and Fall back when dealing with the force of time changes...

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