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20/80 shot, with the 80 favoring peter...

20/80 shot, with the 80 favoring peter...

Call me a pessimist, but I still say anything the gubment get's their hands on is dooooomed. My only hope is that they get involved just enough to crack the current system, then get the heck out of it.

This Government should worry about the economy and the price of gas not the state of college football. All the BCS has to do is sprinkle a little re-election money to the right Senators and this subject will go away quietly.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 09:38 AM ET  05.19 by Woody's Boy

This Government should worry about the economy and the price of gas not the state of college football. All the BCS has to do is sprinkle a little re-election money to the right Senators and this subject will go away quietly.

I agreed with your position for a long time, but you say they should worry about the economy, and they should. CFB is nothing if not big biz these days, and with anti trust suits and "non-profit" bowl scandals, maybe it is time. I agree tho that they should stop short of actually forcing a playoff.

And the NCAA response seems as strange as the question to me. Who should the question REALLY be directed to? The BCS is really just a bowl organizer and to pull off what they did they needed Bowls, conferences, and universities to sign on. The NCAA is the governing body, but they can't institute a playoff without getting a similar agreement as what the BCS got. And the conferences and University Pres' aren't signing on to a playoff anytime soon.

Sooooo...... if the BCS is found in violation of the anti trust laws my guess is that things go back the way they were, not forward to a playoff. In that scenario the 'little' schools really do get left out, and for the most part the ACC and Big E as well. The major bowls will sign agreements with major conferences, similar to what the Rose still has.

As for me, I would prefer a playoff; but the old system is better than what we have now because both are 'mythical' titles but the new system does not portray itself as one (there are still 2 awards, the awards are still poll based, and as long as teams that are arguably as good as the 2 that play, as TCU was this year, Utah, USC, and Oregon in the past, then it's still a beauty contest and hence mythical).

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Originally posted 01:33 PM ET  05.19 by UlTroyFanII

I agreed with your position for a long time, but you say they should worry about the economy, and they should. CFB is nothing if not big biz these days, and with anti trust suits and "non-profit" bowl scandals, maybe it is time. I agree tho that they should stop short of actually forcing a playoff.And the NCAA response seems as strange as the question to me. Who should the question REALLY be directed to? The BCS is really just a bowl organizer and to pull off what they did they needed Bowls, conferences, and universities to sign on. The NCAA is the governing body, but they can't institute a playoff without getting a similar agreement as what the BCS got. And the conferences and University Pres' aren't signing on to a playoff anytime soon.Sooooo...... if the BCS is found in violation of the anti trust laws my guess is that things go back the way they were, not forward to a playoff. In that scenario the 'little' schools really do get left out, and for the most part the ACC and Big E as well. The major bowls will sign agreements with major conferences, similar to what the Rose still has.As for me, I would prefer a playoff; but the old system is better than what we have now because both are 'mythical' titles but the new system does not portray itself as one (there are still 2 awards, the awards are still poll based, and as long as teams that are arguably as good as the 2 that play, as TCU was this year, Utah, USC, and Oregon in the past, then it's still a beauty contest and hence mythical).

1. It is the BCS National Champion, NOT the NCAA National Champion
2. Going back will create "Mythical" champions and everyone has a say...and then Alabama will climb to 30 NC's.
3. Seems that most of the guys on here look at the BCS Champion as "mythical" anyway....

I find it funny that everyone hates the BCS because the use Polls and Computers to determine the two best teams, but then everyone is happy about going back to using Polls to "determine" the Mythical NC without the top two teams playing each other....and we'll have more polls and thus more NC's....you could have at least 3 different NC each year...Coaches Poll, AP Poll and USA Today (or some other big name that wants to create a poll)....

LMAO

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Originally posted 02:04 PM ET  05.19 by BackRoads

1. It is the BCS National Champion, NOT the NCAA National Champion2. Going back will create "Mythical" champions and everyone has a say...and then Alabama will climb to 30 NC's.3. Seems that most of the guys on here look at the BCS Champion as "mythical" anyway....I find it funny that everyone hates the BCS because the use Polls and Computers to determine the two best teams, but then everyone is happy about going back to using Polls to "determine" the Mythical NC without the top two teams playing each other....and we'll have more polls and thus more NC's....you could have at least 3 different NC each year...Coaches Poll, AP Poll and USA Today (or some other big name that wants to create a poll)....LMAO

Its because under the old system the mythical part was out in the open. The BCS is myth pretending to be science.

Its a lot like those folks who suscribe to intelligent design over evolution-just because a lot of people say something loud enough and often does not make it true.

QUOTE(#5):

Originally posted 09:38 AM ET  05.19 by Woody's Boy

This Government should worry about the economy and the price of gas not the state of college football. All the BCS has to do is sprinkle a little re-election money to the right Senators and this subject will go away quietly.

Well, given the big business state of CFB today, stripping FBS teams of tax-free status would bring in tax revenue....

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Originally posted 02:36 PM ET  05.19 by JRM74

In my opinion, a school's net athletic profit, if any, [i]should[/i] be subject to income taxes.

According to many accounts, most schools do not have a very large "net profit".....and I'm sure some "creative accounting" can make EVERY school appear to have a net profit of $0.

I would have to agree with GR, if the government gets involved, things will not end up well, particularly if the government starts messing with the money!!

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Originally posted 02:36 PM ET  05.19 by JRM74

If I was an exec with the NCAA and/or a major conference, I'd be a lot more concerned about this issue than about playoffs versus bowls. I keep waiting for the IRS to challenge these revenues as unrelated business income, subject to income taxes. At major programs, CFB and CBB revenues are clearly material to the school's finances, and I'd hate to be arguing to a judge that they're either part of the school's tax exempt purpose (educating kids), or just "incidental" to said tax exempt purpose.In my opinion, a school's net athletic profit, if any, [i]should[/] be subject to income taxes................... Sorry, I think I just geeked out again.

Then you donations would not be a tax write off and people would donate less money to the small schools that need the cash. Big boys would get even bigger b/c they can afford to pay the taxes. Taxes don't help the little guy, regardless of what they tell us b/c the little guys need the money.

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Originally posted 05:22 PM ET  05.19 by JRM74

I wasn't making a moral argument, just stating my opinion of how I think a judge would apply the tax code to a school's athletic department.Donations to the school would continue to be deductible, just not donations to the athletic department.We'll see if this is one of the "loopholes" that gets looked at over the next few months.

10-4. I was commenting on the donations to the athletic department and how small schools need them big time. If you taxed the revenue then no deduction unless they could justify a completely seperate set of rule for college football vs other "non profits".

If college football does a playoff system it better have more than 8 teams. 32 at worst would be OK with me.