MMA  > General MMA  > Biggest problem in MMA
July 9, 2011, 10:52 PM
I just posted this on my facebook page (facebook.com/MMASpartan) but I was wondering...

What do you guys think is the biggest problem: PEDs, Scoring/Officiating, or Concussions?
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July 10, 2011  12:46 AM ET

Judging easily.

July 10, 2011  03:31 AM ET

Hmm...interesting. Honestly, I agree. But I've gotten emails and message on facebook proclaiming PEDs, concussions, and THEN judging/scoring. Weird. I think us "hardcore" MMA fans see what's really wrong. PEDs are in the news "now" and so seem like a big thing. Especially since it's so big in other sports. Concussions are big in football so I can see why some people think concussions are big in MMA after Wanderlei's last loss.

But I honestly think it's the scoring/judging.

July 10, 2011  06:10 AM ET

It has got to be the judging. Anyone that says any different doesn't really watch MMA all they do is read about it on the computer. How can you expect boxing judges to judge MMA events? They know nothing about the sport yet try and score it the same as boxing. There needs to be seperate judges for MMA events!!!

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July 10, 2011  02:40 PM ET

Yeah, judging is horrendous. What other job can you be horrible at your job but still keep it? I guess a weatherman but that's about it.

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July 10, 2011  04:04 PM ET

Im going to say judging only cause we are not in the mma gyms. Who knows how bad the ped problem is.

Wasn't this the question on inside mma on hdnet? lol

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July 10, 2011  06:30 PM ET

Judging is definitely the biggest issue. When a fight ends I always know who I think won the fight and I predict who I think the judges will pick. Oftentimes, I am almost entirely certain the judges will make the wrong decision.

July 11, 2011  06:37 AM ET

Anothe roption would be to change the wigh ins. I say make the fighters weigh in the day of the fight. That way when we see fighters fighting at 185lbs they are 185lbs. I get so tired of seeing guys in the same weight class weighing in at the same weight look completely different in size. Take Andersen for example. Come time of the fight there is no way on this earth he is 185lbs or less.

Plus by doing this it takes another advantage away from these boreing wrestlers. Lets face it, they are the best at cutting weight for fights. They have been doing it for years!

July 11, 2011  06:37 AM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Anothe roption would be to change the wigh ins. I say make the fighters weigh in the day of the fight. That way when we see fighters fighting at 185lbs they are 185lbs. I get so tired of seeing guys in the same weight class weighing in at the same weight look completely different in size. Take Andersen for example. Come time of the fight there is no way on this earth he is 185lbs or less.Plus by doing this it takes another advantage away from these boreing wrestlers. Lets face it, they are the best at cutting weight for fights. They have been doing it for years!

wow i really messed up that post with misspelled words.... lol

July 11, 2011  10:21 AM ET
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Im going to say judging only cause we are not in the mma gyms. Who knows how bad the ped problem is. Wasn't this the question on inside mma on hdnet? lol

When I was training no one I knew of was taking anything.

As far as HDNet, I don't know. I haven't watched that show in a few years.

July 11, 2011  10:53 AM ET

PED use it the biggest problem for one reason....we can't see it, we can't "know" and take it into account in our own minds for our own judgement....we KNOW when the judges screwed up....we can judge it for ourselves and cheap wins get no credibility among real fans....no one in their right mind thinks Bisping beat Hammil in England and therefore, no one really counts that W in Bisping's favor...and concussions are a complete non-issue in MMA....it's not boxing, there is no standing 8 count...the closest thing to a standing 8 count in MMA would be a fighter getting concussed right before the end of a round and there are only two bells that could save a concussed fighter from getting TKO'd in MMA while boxing has the end of 11 rounds that could provide a temporary respite for a concussed fighter before being sent back out to fight in the next round...

July 11, 2011  11:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#17):

PED use it the biggest problem for one reason....we can't see it, we can't "know" and take it into account in our own minds for our own judgement....we KNOW when the judges screwed up....we can judge it for ourselves and cheap wins get no credibility among real fans....no one in their right mind thinks Bisping beat Hammil in England and therefore, no one really counts that W in Bisping's favor...and concussions are a complete non-issue in MMA....it's not boxing, there is no standing 8 count...the closest thing to a standing 8 count in MMA would be a fighter getting concussed right before the end of a round and there are only two bells that could save a concussed fighter from getting TKO'd in MMA while boxing has the end of 11 rounds that could provide a temporary respite for a concussed fighter before being sent back out to fight in the next round...

Well said...agreed

July 11, 2011  11:01 AM ET
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Anothe roption would be to change the wigh ins. I say make the fighters weigh in the day of the fight. That way when we see fighters fighting at 185lbs they are 185lbs. I get so tired of seeing guys in the same weight class weighing in at the same weight look completely different in size. Take Andersen for example. Come time of the fight there is no way on this earth he is 185lbs or less.Plus by doing this it takes another advantage away from these boreing wrestlers. Lets face it, they are the best at cutting weight for fights. They have been doing it for years!

I've been calling for that for years....get rid of the games with dropping weight and dehydration. People would fight at their natural weight and all 185 lb fighters would weigh the same which would end up matching skill vs skill and style vs style rather than having a potential weight difference alter the dynamics. Also, since fighters wouldn't be cutting weight, we'd never have a fighter give a bad performance due to the drain from cutting....no more Thiago Alves gassing in the first round after failing to make weight...we'd have Alves fully ready to go as a MW or LHW rather than a tired WW or catchweight fighter....of course, he wouldn't be fighting Silva at MW as Silva would be a LHW....this would also require a cruiserweight class at 235 to account for all the guys that wouldn't be cutting to 205 anymore and prevent them from having to face the 265 lb guys...guys like Road Rage and Evans could never handle Cain, JDS, Carwin, or Lesnar....if Mir at 250 couldn't even get close to handling Lesnar, Road Rage at 220 - 235 isn't going to do a damn thing to someone of that size and power.

 
July 11, 2011  11:03 AM ET

Wait wait did I just agree with.... I like what you said Loki but the judges are the biggest problem. I cant stand when someone get the win and doesnt deserve it. Cheap wins may not get credibility with real fans but what we think does not matter. What matters is the win and loss record

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