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July 30, 2011, 02:38 AM
I know NFL is better than CFL but the worst CFL team would destroy the best college football team. Disagree?

P.S. Just stirring the pot
July 30, 2011  02:43 AM ET
QUOTE:

I know NFL is better than CFL but the worst CFL team would destroy the best college football team. Disagree?P.S. Just stirring the pot

Destroy? Doubt that. The best NCAA team will have on average, about 9 NFL draftees for that year on the roster. Let alone guys that will eventually go onto the NFL.

I don't have enough knowledge on the background of CFL players to make any more of a judgment than that.

July 30, 2011  02:59 AM ET

Maybe not destroy but definitely win. The best college team would have a few stars but a CFL team would be way better overall. Most CFL players were among the best in the NCAA, some played in the NFL.

July 30, 2011  03:18 AM ET

Well, we'll never know for certain. But i'd sure like to think a professional team could beat a college team. If not, the CFL should simply disperse.

Honestly, I don't know. A team like USC in 2004 or Miami/Ohio State in 2000 sure did produce a lot of NFL talent.

July 30, 2011  04:04 AM ET

CFL rules require that half the roster (21 players) must be Canadian born. I'm guessing that nearly all of them would be inferior to anyone on (for example) Auburn's 2-deep from last year, as I can't think of many great football players to ever come out of Canada beyond Bronko Nagurski.

So that leaves the other 21 players (imports in CFL jargon) on the worst CFL team, which would be the BC Lions at 0-5.

Here is their roster. I see one Notre Dame player, a guy from OK State, and the rest are guys from MAC/WAC/FCS schools.

Even the best CFL team has very few players from BCS conferences on their roster. Again, I see a lot of players from schools like Eastern Washington, Alcorn State and Akron.

When top BCS teams schedule opponents like Middle Tennessee State, it's a bloodbath. I don't see how those same FCS players could destroy a even a .500 BCS conference team.

July 30, 2011  04:06 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

CFL rules require that half the roster (21 players) must be Canadian born. I'm guessing that nearly all of them would be inferior to anyone on (for example) Auburn's 2-deep from last year, as I can't think of many great football players to ever come out of Canada beyond Bronko Nagurski. So that leaves the other 21 players (imports in CFL jargon) on the worst CFL team, which would be the BC Lions at 0-5. Here is their roster. I see one Notre Dame player, a guy from OK State, and the rest are guys from MAC/WAC/FCS schools. Even the best CFL team has very few players from BCS conferences on their roster. Again, I see a lot of players from schools like Eastern Washington, Alcorn State and Akron. When top BCS teams schedule opponents like Middle Tennessee State, it's a bloodbath. I don't see how those same FCS players could destroy a even a .500 BCS conference team.

Wow. I never knew any of that.

UB, you should take the TD that he started, head over to the TD page.

July 30, 2011  04:08 AM ET

Up late UB...

July 30, 2011  04:12 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

CFL rules require that half the roster (21 players) must be Canadian born. I'm guessing that nearly all of them would be inferior to anyone on (for example) Auburn's 2-deep from last year, as I can't think of many great football players to ever come out of Canada beyond Bronko Nagurski. So that leaves the other 21 players (imports in CFL jargon) on the worst CFL team, which would be the BC Lions at 0-5. Here is their roster. I see one Notre Dame player, a guy from OK State, and the rest are guys from MAC/WAC/FCS schools. Even the best CFL team has very few players from BCS conferences on their roster. Again, I see a lot of players from schools like Eastern Washington, Alcorn State and Akron. When top BCS teams schedule opponents like Middle Tennessee State, it's a bloodbath. I don't see how those same FCS players could destroy a even a .500 BCS conference team.

Knowledge baby.

July 30, 2011  04:33 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

CFL rules require that half the roster (21 players) must be Canadian born. I'm guessing that nearly all of them would be inferior to anyone on (for example) Auburn's 2-deep from last year, as I can't think of many great football players to ever come out of Canada beyond Bronko Nagurski. So that leaves the other 21 players (imports in CFL jargon) on the worst CFL team, which would be the BC Lions at 0-5. Here is their roster. I see one Notre Dame player, a guy from OK State, and the rest are guys from MAC/WAC/FCS schools. Even the best CFL team has very few players from BCS conferences on their roster. Again, I see a lot of players from schools like Eastern Washington, Alcorn State and Akron. When top BCS teams schedule opponents like Middle Tennessee State, it's a bloodbath. I don't see how those same FCS players could destroy a even a .500 BCS conference team.

ha ha, smart man. see this is an arguable topic. true, half the players must be Canadian. But all of the quarterbacks, running backs, receivers and coaches are American. The kickers are Canadian and some of the O Line and D Line. Most of the best players are American but there are a few outstanding Canadian players.

July 30, 2011  09:17 AM ET

From 1934 - 1976 the College Allstars played the defending World Champion NFL team in an exhibition game in Chicago. Allstars won 11....

Granted it was an exhibition game and the pro's probably weren't all that into the game, but...

July 30, 2011  09:38 AM ET

Better question: CFL or NFC West. Who's best?

July 30, 2011  09:57 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Better question: CFL or NFC West. Who's best?

Hey, now, the Rams are going to be decent this year.

July 30, 2011  10:44 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Hey, now, the Rams are going to be decent this year.

He he I know ...with Bradford they're worth watching.
Kolb might make Arizona a watchable team too.
Meanwhile the Niners and Seahawks have a couple of CFL-worthy QBs competing for the starting position.

July 30, 2011  11:36 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

From 1934 - 1976 the College Allstars played the defending World Champion NFL team in an exhibition game in Chicago. Allstars won 11....Granted it was an exhibition game and the pro's probably weren't all that into the game, but...

UR onit Default

The College All-Star game was cancelled (by the NFL owners) because of the injuries to the All-Stars. The game was played between the current NFL champion and the all-stars. The pros treated the game as an exercise to "introduce" the incoming rookies to pro ball. Their introductions often resulted in severe injuries to high priced and prized draft choices (some whose careers were ended before they started).

The average age of a CFL player is 28 the average age of an NCAA player is 20. There is huge difference in physical maturity between a 28 year old man and a 20 year old boy. *


*See note about College All-star Game.

July 30, 2011  12:07 PM ET

The NFL also had a consolation game, the Playoff Bowl, from 1960 to 1969, which pitted the second-place team in each of the two divisions. It was another opportunity for the players to get hurt just like in the College All-Star game.

July 30, 2011  12:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

CFL rules require that half the roster (21 players) must be Canadian born. I'm guessing that nearly all of them would be inferior to anyone on (for example) Auburn's 2-deep from last year, as I can't think of many great football players to ever come out of Canada beyond Bronko Nagurski. So that leaves the other 21 players (imports in CFL jargon) on the worst CFL team, which would be the BC Lions at 0-5. Here is their roster. I see one Notre Dame player, a guy from OK State, and the rest are guys from MAC/WAC/FCS schools. Even the best CFL team has very few players from BCS conferences on their roster. Again, I see a lot of players from schools like Eastern Washington, Alcorn State and Akron. When top BCS teams schedule opponents like Middle Tennessee State, it's a bloodbath. I don't see how those same FCS players could destroy a even a .500 BCS conference team.

The extra practice time and older players would help the CFL teams. I would see them as being about equal to CFB teams-the playoff teams would be about as good as upper level bowl squads and the rest of the CFL equal to the lower tier bowl teams. It might also depend on what ruleset and field you used...

July 30, 2011  12:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

The extra practice time and older players would help the CFL teams. I would see them as being about equal to CFB teams-the playoff teams would be about as good as upper level bowl squads and the rest of the CFL equal to the lower tier bowl teams. It might also depend on what ruleset and field you used...

Have you seen the full contact practice limits in the NFL's new CBA? Each team is only allowed 1 full contact practice per week during the regular season. The NFL is becoming a glorified 7-on-7 league! I think the CFL guys could give them a run for their money - oh wait - not their money but definitely their dedication and conditioning.

July 31, 2011  12:00 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Have you seen the full contact practice limits in the NFL's new CBA? Each team is only allowed 1 full contact practice per week during the regular season. The NFL is becoming a glorified 7-on-7 league! I think the CFL guys could give them a run for their money - oh wait - not their money but definitely their dedication and conditioning.

wow that's crazy. only one contact practice a week?

A CFL team would never beat an NFL team anymore but the two leagues were pretty close in the 1970's. CFL salaries rivaled the NFL at that time and lots of big NFL players left for the CFL.

July 31, 2011  08:46 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

wow that's crazy. only one contact practice a week?A CFL team would never beat an NFL team anymore but the two leagues were pretty close in the 1970's. CFL salaries rivaled the NFL at that time and lots of big NFL players left for the CFL.

The best CFL team would probably give the worst NFL team a decent game, but even there the talent gap would be huge-and unlike the top CFB teams the NFL squad would be as old and have the on-field exp to match the CFL squad.

August 5, 2011  03:41 PM ET

I'm from Canada, and I'm actually from Saskatchewan. I do not watch the CFL on a regular basis; I do watch both NFL and college. Yes the NFL is way more talented than the CFL. However, the Gophers would never stand a chance against Montreal. Montreal actually has a good team, the strength and training and studying in the CFL is all these players do all year. Their also Men not boys like most NCAA teams. Yes it is true a team like Alabama the other year could probably compete with the worst teams in the CFL but on a player by player evaluation the CFL will have better players. The rules governing the CFL do require a certain number of Canadian players per team. They are usually on the O-Line though and not at the skill positions. There are still a lot of very talented football players in the CFL who could make an NFL roster they just may not play or may be on the practice squad. The problem is once a player is on contract with the CFL he can't play in the NFL. Most players in the CFL are 30 or older so of course there not going to be back in the NFL with the amount of talent coming out the NCAA every year. You probably remember but Ricky Williams came down to Canada for a year and sucked... I loved Ricky in Miami was my fav team back in the day. Then the next year he was a good back in the NFL. The CFL is not a joke Ricky also broke his arm the players up here are just as big as the NFL players just not as talented. NCAA teams on average have a few all stars but the majority of the rosters are scrubs. Remember, the best NFL teams have depth the best college teams have depth. However, the CFL defensive lines would blow up the College protection because you will have subs and the subs of the College team will not be near as talented as the 8 team rosters on the CFL. Texas tech QB Graham Harrell came down to the CFL after his huge run in College and he couldn???t even get off the practice squad. He now coaches for Oklahoma State I believe. I call the CFL here the Crappy Football League and I would rather watch the NFL and College Football but yeah, there is no doubt the CFL does have more talent what pro league wouldn???t?

 
August 5, 2011  05:08 PM ET

Not even gonna try to read this one....paragraphs would have been nice to break it down into the various (and I am sure there are many) points.

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