NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Thank you Miami!
August 17, 2011, 03:43 AM
As a Pac-12 partisan I'd like to thank the University of Miami for letting USC off the hook. True, I don't care much for USC--they made a mistake, got caught and are paying a stiff price. But the Trojans were mere pikers when it came to violations when you consider "The U" (allegedly) provided illegal aid to 73 athletes. If SC's illegal aid to 2 players got them docked 30 scholarships and a bowl ban, what's in store for Miami? Are we looking at "Death Penalty II"?

Full story at Yahoo Sports. (You'll have to manually fix the link)

http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-reneg ade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611
August 17, 2011  07:48 AM ET

The charges are mainly coming from a dude in jail though, so you have to take them with a grain of salt until he gets some backup.

August 17, 2011  08:17 AM ET
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A grain of salt?!! More like a ton of bricks.

Maybe, but if he is right on just one of his many, many, allegations the U is in serious trouble.

August 17, 2011  08:19 AM ET

There appears to be significant documentation to support the allegations. Already current assistant coach's on other programs who coached recently at the U have indicated very questionable actions have happened. Not to mention the huge paper trail.

This situation could get very nasty, not only for Miami but for other programs including Florida and Alabama.

August 17, 2011  08:31 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

There appears to be significant documentation to support the allegations. Already current assistant coach's on other programs who coached recently at the U have indicated very questionable actions have happened. Not to mention the huge paper trail.This situation could get very nasty, not only for Miami but for other programs including Florida and Alabama.

Two coaches at Bama, One coach and two players at UF, one player at UGA

August 17, 2011  09:00 AM ET

This thing is getting ugly fast. Did Miami not even have a compliance department through all that? Wow is all I can say, and I dam sure hope none of this splatters on the Gators, but we will see what happens.

August 17, 2011  09:02 AM ET

And Chip Kelly should thank the Canes too, this should help gloss over his player issues.

August 17, 2011  09:05 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

This thing is getting ugly fast. Did Miami not even have a compliance department through all that? Wow is all I can say, and I dam sure hope none of this splatters on the Gators, but we will see what happens.

The joker once tried to pick a fight with Miami's compliance officer.

BTW- Paul Dee (Miami's AD) was the chairman of the NCAA???s committee on infractions during the USC ruling

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August 17, 2011  09:27 AM ET

The U needs to get the Death penalty ... or the NCAA is a farce.

August 17, 2011  09:52 AM ET
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The U needs to get the Death penalty ... or the NCAA is a farce.

Not close...unless the U has prior (like in the last 3 years) of the same issues and continued paying.

SMU's issue was that even when the NCAA banged on them once, they kept paying players.

August 17, 2011  11:47 AM ET

The U was under probation until Feb. 27, 2008 they qualify as a repeat violator.
Statute of limitations goes out the window for willful misconduct if coaches were involved it's gonna be considered willful and they can go right back to 2001.

August 17, 2011  12:14 PM ET

OK, work has been consuming all of my time of late, so, I need mt friends to FNmail me when and where the inevitable Sandy-SVT face-off occurs. I suspect it may carry over many days and threads. Please, keep me posted. Thanks.

August 17, 2011  12:18 PM ET

OK, here's the thing... Where I care that the tOSU band gets support in the event of CFB death (my cousin's married to a tOSU music prof), I don't give two shakes of a pelican tail feather about the Miami band. Sorry band geeks. If death comes a visitin', may you all get picked up by other schools. No hard feelings.

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August 17, 2011  01:01 PM ET
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TBDBITL will survive along with the football team, TM. May they both continue "Across the Field."

+100000000000

August 17, 2011  01:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

The joker once tried to pick a fight with Miami's compliance officer.BTW- Paul Dee (Miami's AD) was the chairman of the NCAA???s committee on infractions during the USC ruling

Paul Dee (ex-Miami AD and chairman of the committe that investigated and sanctioned USC):
???USC maybe didn't know but they should have known???

Paul Dee's response yesterday to Miami infractions:
"the things you can control are the things you have your hands on -- like grades, discipline on campus, financial aid. But when you get further out, when you get to a booster who has decided to do something inappropriate, you have less control, because they are out in the environment and we're not there."

I don't know who's more of a hypocrite, Paul Dee for slamming USC on their infractions while the school he was AD for was doing far far worse or the NCAA for making him the chairman for a committee on investigating infractions. Particularly since Dee was also the AD at Miami in 1995 when Miami was sanctioned for infractions similar to what they're being accused of now.

"Under Dee's watch, the University of Miami athletic program was sanctioned by the NCAA in 1995. Eighty students, 57 of whom were football players, falsified their Pell Grant applications, illegally securing more than $220,000 in federal grant money. Federal officials described the scam as "perhaps the largest centralized fraud ... ever committed in the history of the Pell Grant program." Moreover, the University provided over $400,000 worth of other, improper payments to Miami football players. The NCAA also ruled that the University failed to wholly implement its drug-testing program, and permitted three football student-athletes to compete without being subject to the required disciplinary measures specified in the policy."

August 17, 2011  01:13 PM ET
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If SC's illegal aid to 2 players got them docked 30 scholarships and a bowl ban,

For a smart guy from a smart school, you don't care much for facts. The 30 schollies and bowl ban on the football program didn't involve illegal aid by USC (or anyone representing USC) to any players. In fact, only one football player was ever mentioned.

And your relief that Miami gets USC off the hook is crap. USC moved on a long time ago. This is just your chance to drag it back through the mud one more time. Nice.

August 17, 2011  01:19 PM ET
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Paul Dee (ex-Miami AD and chairman of the committe that investigated and sanctioned USC):

He was also AD when most of the recent <hit went down.

August 17, 2011  01:21 PM ET
QUOTE(#19):

He was also AD when most of the recent <hit went down.

Since he can't investigate himself, maybe the NCAA will hire unemployed Mike Garrett to chair the Infractions Committee for the Miami investigation.

 
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