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Rhodes is TLR's "perfect pitcher" - he has the experience! *snort* TLR has made some head-scratching moves this season that I just don't understand, and I'm sure I'm not the only one!

This season is over and this team (top to bottom) should be ashamed of themselves for their August meltdown, which is getting to be a habit with them.

Yeah, TLR has done some things this year that just don't make sense to me. Monday night, Carp pitching a great game, but it's only 1-0. He takes Berkman out for defense, and then ends the game with Furcal batting instead of Berkman.

Obviously I understand taking Berk out for defense, but I wouldn't make that move when it is 1-0.

There's just been a lot of strange moves this year, but I think you are right. Tony gets a bullpn guy that is 80 years old and he'll just go to him non-stop. Rzep has looked much better to me than Rhodes, but it is Rhodes in the game for every key spot.

Which is why I've given up on them this year. Mo's "going all in" backfired on him big time. Guess he should have checked with Tony first?

This team has me so confused. Would it be better if we had a huge change in management and players? Do we just need a change in management? I have no clue and I have to be honest - right now, I'm so ticked that I DON'T CARE!

I wonder how Carp felt being taken out of the game?

You could tell Carp was ticked. I was too. I would trust Carp with that game long before I'd trust our bullpen.

I think if Albert leaves they should just do an overhaul, including Tony. You've got a core group of Holliday, Freese, Yadi, Jay, Craig, Garcia, Wainwright, Salas, Sanchez. I'd keep them and just build around them. I have to think Carp won't be back at $15M, so between what we are paying Albert, Carp and Berkman this year, you could add some nice pieces.

I would lose the following players before next year: Schumaker, Theriot, Greene, Jackson, Furcal, and I am not entirely sold on keeping McClellan.

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Originally posted 11:10 AM ET  08.24 by ElevenRingsSTL

I would lose the following players before next year: Schumaker, Theriot, Greene, Jackson, Furcal, and I am not entirely sold on keeping McClellan.

I agree and I'd probably put Laird in that group as well and call up Cruz

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Originally posted 11:08 AM ET  08.24 by ElevenRingsSTL

You could tell Carp was ticked. I was too. I would trust Carp with that game long before I'd trust our bullpen.I think if Albert leaves they should just do an overhaul, including Tony. You've got a core group of Holliday, Freese, Yadi, Jay, Craig, Garcia, Wainwright, Salas, Sanchez. I'd keep them and just build around them. I have to think Carp won't be back at $15M, so between what we are paying Albert, Carp and Berkman this year, you could add some nice pieces.

I'm with you about Carp and the bullpen.

Maybe they can offer Carp a lesser deal for maybe 2 years?

Who would you like to see manage the Cards?

I'd love to see Carp come back for a lesser deal for two years. I wonder if he'd be open to that.

Good question. I've always liked Oquendo, but I almost think they need a complete change and go with someone that hasn't been part of the current regime.

Carp has proven he still has "it", especially if the offense shows up but I'm not sure he's has $15M worth of "it". We shall see, I guess.

I agree about going outside the club. No offense to Jose but he's interviewed several times for a manager's job and not gotten them, for some reason, and I DO NOT want TLR, Jr. in the dugout!

I think everyone is completely, perhaps willfully, ignoring how much the impending Pujols free agency is affecting this team. I think that's what gives.

More recently, we've seen how this pitching staff will perform in the post Duncan era.

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Originally posted 07:39 AM ET  08.26 by CardsFan2

I think everyone is completely, perhaps willfully, ignoring how much the impending Pujols free agency is affecting this team. I think that's what gives.More recently, we've seen how this pitching staff will perform in the post Duncan era.

I think I'm just completely, willfully ignoring Pujols completely - sorry!

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Originally posted 07:39 AM ET  08.26 by CardsFan2

I think everyone is completely, perhaps willfully, ignoring how much the impending Pujols free agency is affecting this team. I think that's what gives.More recently, we've seen how this pitching staff will perform in the post Duncan era.

I think you are right CF2.....the pending free agency is definitely affecting the mindset of this team. That doesn't explain Tony going to Rhodes every day and ignoring Rzep, though.