NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Stoops is toast - the Arizona one; not the other one.
October 11, 2011, 12:57 AM
Very mediocre recruiting over the last several years.
(and SoCal is not all that far away)

10 straight losses to FBS teams.

It's about time.
October 11, 2011  01:01 AM ET

It didn't help that ASU is having a decent year either.

October 11, 2011  01:11 AM ET

The loss to hapless OSU was probably the final straw.

October 11, 2011  02:03 AM ET

Yeah, he's definitely done. Arizona might get 3 wins in conference this year if they're lucky.

You have to consider Arizona a desirable job. I wonder who will be next?

October 11, 2011  07:10 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Yeah, he's definitely done. Arizona might get 3 wins in conference this year if they're lucky.You have to consider Arizona a desirable job. I wonder who will be next?

Why is Arizona a desirable job? One shared PAC 10 title since joining.

Of course, UF was not a desirable job in 1990. The right hire can make all the difference.

October 11, 2011  08:19 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Why is Arizona a desirable job? One shared PAC 10 title since joining.Of course, UF was not a desirable job in 1990. The right hire can make all the difference.

Tucson would be a desirable job for me but I'm a desert rat! Not too big like Phoenix but big enough. They can attract kids to play the other sports I don't see why they can get them there for football.

October 11, 2011  08:21 AM ET
QUOTE:

Very mediocre recruiting over the last several years.(and SoCal is not all that far away)10 straight losses to FBS teams.It's about time.

Very true conejo loco...and they pull a lot of Texas kids too.

October 11, 2011  12:59 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Why is Arizona a desirable job? One shared PAC 10 title since joining.Of course, UF was not a desirable job in 1990. The right hire can make all the difference.

It's in a BCS conference, it's in reasonable proximity to SoCal for recruiting purposes, they have good facilities, a decent fan base and lots of money. It's not about being a perennial winner in the past. Good coaches don't want to just be the next cog plugged into a winning machine. Some of them want the challenge of building their own winner. Maybe that will lead them to their next, bigger job. But Tucson's not a bad place. You wouldn't do badly making a career there.

October 11, 2011  02:33 PM ET

Actually Tucson is hotter than Vegas, in a perpetual drought, has issues being so close to the Mexican border, nothing much to do there.

Unless you are a desert rat like Deep Creek I doubt many would like it there.

October 11, 2011  02:55 PM ET

I agree Orac.

Tucson is also surrounded by beautiful scenery and incredible weather. It would be a great place for an up-and-coming (or even a proven) coach to make a name for himself.

October 11, 2011  03:01 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I agree Orac.Tucson is also surrounded by beautiful scenery and incredible weather. It would be a great place for an up-and-coming (or even a proven) coach to make a name for himself.

You do realize that the temps during the summer months may not dip below 85 degrees for up the 4 months, 24/7!

and if you have leather seats and short pants it gets VERY painful to get in your car. ;')

October 11, 2011  03:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

You do realize that the temps during the summer months may not dip below 85 degrees for up the 4 months, 24/7!and if you have leather seats and short pants it gets VERY painful to get in your car. ;')

Yup, I know that. ;-) Fortunately they don't play football in the summer, and when they do play in the fall the home games are at night. And for a head coach's salary I should think he could afford the 100 mile drive to Phoenix if he gets bored with small city life, and afford a house in the mountains if he wants to cool off.

Not to mention a car with built in cooling in the seats. ;-)

October 11, 2011  04:01 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

and if you have leather seats and short pants it gets VERY painful to get in your car. ;')

No problem for those of us covered in fur!

October 11, 2011  04:06 PM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Yup, I know that. ;-) Fortunately they don't play football in the summer, and when they do play in the fall the home games are at night. And for a head coach's salary I should think he could afford the 100 mile drive to Phoenix if he gets bored with small city life, and afford a house in the mountains if he wants to cool off.Not to mention a car with built in cooling in the seats. ;-)

Not to be a jerk or anything but how do you get ready for football on Labor Day Weekend?

You practice in August heat, and play in September heat, nighttime means little as far as relief from the heat goes.
Tuscon is the desert, unless you have ever lived it that kind of heat, you really need too before commenting on it. Most folks cannot handle it for any length of time.

October 11, 2011  04:11 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Not to be a jerk or anything but how do you get ready for football on Labor Day Weekend? You practice in August heat, and play in September heat, nighttime means little as far as relief from the heat goes. Tuscon is the desert, unless you have ever lived it that kind of heat, you really need too before commenting on it. Most folks cannot handle it for any length of time.

Hot is hot especially with zero air movement!

October 11, 2011  05:10 PM ET

On a lighter note maybe the AD at U of A ought to check out Rich Rod, or maybe not. Actually Mr. Leach might be a really good fit if he is still available.

October 11, 2011  05:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Not to be a jerk or anything but how do you get ready for football on Labor Day Weekend? You practice in August heat, and play in September heat, nighttime means little as far as relief from the heat goes. Tuscon is the desert, unless you have ever lived it that kind of heat, you really need too before commenting on it. Most folks cannot handle it for any length of time.

I don't think you're being a jerk. And yeah, I'm intentionally selling the summer practices short. (and not bringing up indoor practice facilities) But I do know the heat from doing seismic research in the Imperial valley of California and east to the Arizona border. I lived there for months at a time, probably in worse conditions than you've ever had to endure. There's a reason I live in the Pacific Northwest now. :-)

Still, I'm not a football coach. If I were a football coach, and someone was willing to pay me millions of dollars to do what I loved at the highest level of the sport, I think I'd learn to love the desert and invest in air conditioning.

October 11, 2011  05:47 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Actually Tucson is hotter than Vegas, in a perpetual drought, has issues being so close to the Mexican border, nothing much to do there. Unless you are a desert rat like Deep Creek I doubt many would like it there.

It seemed to work for Lute Olson (5 Final Fours with 1 title in 25 yrs) and Jerry Kindall (5 CWS with 3 titles in 24 yrs).

Having lived 6 years in the desert I'd prefer the summer with a dry 100 degrees to the 100% humidity of other places. And "zero air movement" is a myth. I moved out because of the wind, not the heat.

October 11, 2011  06:13 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

It seemed to work for Lute Olson (5 Final Fours with 1 title in 25 yrs) and Jerry Kindall (5 CWS with 3 titles in 24 yrs). Having lived 6 years in the desert I'd prefer the summer with a dry 100 degrees to the 100% humidity of other places. And "zero air movement" is a myth. I moved out because of the wind, not the heat.

Not sure who came up with 'zero air movement' because like you said the desert has wind, and lots of it.
It is almost always too hot or too cold and always too windy.
Nothing like a morning in the teens with no humidity and 60 mph winds, yuck!

October 11, 2011  07:27 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

Having lived 6 years in the desert I'd prefer the summer with a dry 100 degrees to the 100% humidity of other places.

Our summer track practices were from 5-7pm. The temperature was between 101 and 106 for every practice. And that's with N Texas humidity, which is not super high but it is significant. We had 3 athletes suffer from heat exhaustion. And they were wearing track clothes; not football uniforms & pads.

I can't even imagine how tough TX & LA football players have it in Aug & Sept - especially teams close to the Gulf like Rice, Houston, ULL, & Tulane. The humidity down there is best described as 'thick', and the temp is only a few degrees cooler (still over 100 on most days).

 
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