NFL  > Cleveland Browns  > I see 5-11 AT BEST...Is it too soon to talk about the 2012 draft?
November 13, 2011, 04:55 PM
Is there no end to this agony? The Rams? Seriously? I kinda thought Holmgren and Shurmur were OFFENSIVE guru-types. The defense actually not being horrible, for once, should Heckert switch gears and start pursuing some proven O in free agency, or does he stick with the plan and insist the Browns are only a good draft away from decent?
November 13, 2011  04:56 PM ET

Not if you are the Colts.

November 13, 2011  04:59 PM ET
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Is there no end to this agony? The Rams? Seriously? I kinda thought Holmgren and Shurmur were OFFENSIVE guru-types. The defense actually not being horrible, for once, should Heckert switch gears and start pursuing some proven O in free agency, or does he stick with the plan and insist the Browns are only a good draft away from decent?

Browns fans shouldn't expect miracles. It will take time to rebuild this team.

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November 13, 2011  11:49 PM ET

I don't think anybody expected a serious contender this year, but I did expect the offense to IMPROVE over the abject disaster that it has consistently been for the last 12 years. If anything, it appears worse. That I did not expect with Holmgren taking over operations and a recent NFL offensive coordinator as the new head coach. Pretty poor skilled positions evaluation so far. I'd have been OK with 8-8, happy with 9-7.

November 14, 2011  11:48 AM ET
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Not if you are the Colts.

That's right they have known since the beginning of the season who was #1 on their wish list and have deliberately thrown the season. I'm even suspect of Mannings so called neck problems, just a little to coincidental, having him sit the season won't tarnish any of his HOF statistics. The question is after they take Andrew Luck; " Does anyone need a Painter"?

November 14, 2011  11:56 AM ET
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Browns fans shouldn't expect miracles. It will take time to rebuild this team.

That's right and I was going to give them 2 more years but that might be optimistic. Considering that the Bengals got those picks from Oakland and drafted themselves a nice QB and WR, Cincinnati is on the verge of taking over the AFC North. On the other hand Baltimore and Pittsburgh have shown no signs of weakening. You have to first show signs that you can win 60% of your division games before you can be considered a playoff team.

January 26, 2012  12:32 AM ET

I'm thinking the Browns pass on a QB in this draft, take Blackmon or Michael Floyd or someone at some point in the first round, and take a new RB like LaMichael James a little later. Then give Colt a year, and if he blows it even with some new offensive weapons, then we draft a Matt Barkley or Landry Jones in 2013.

January 26, 2012  04:31 AM ET
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I'm thinking the Browns pass on a QB in this draft, take Blackmon or Michael Floyd or someone at some point in the first round, and take a new RB like LaMichael James a little later. Then give Colt a year, and if he blows it even with some new offensive weapons, then we draft a Matt Barkley or Landry Jones in 2013.

Those are good draft choices, but you are in a division where defense counts.

January 26, 2012  04:45 AM ET

Sure we can talk about the draft, but you might be wasting your breath and brain cells. Why waste time speculating on what position or what player a team might draft before all the free agents are signed by the end of March. Who knows you might even find a QB like Kurt Warner bagging groceries.

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January 27, 2012  10:52 AM ET
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Sure we can talk about the draft, but you might be wasting your breath and brain cells. Why waste time speculating on what position or what player a team might draft before all the free agents are signed by the end of March. Who knows you might even find a QB like Kurt Warner bagging groceries.

I don't get interested in the draft until after the NFL combine workouts.

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