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November 29, 2011, 12:35 PM


I've been begging b-i-g and the other Buckeye fans to put up a new board for the tOSU faithful. It hasn't happened yet, so, I'm taking it upon myself to provide one that I hope you'll use.

No, I did not matriculate at Ohio State. My connection to Columbus is a cousin married to a music prof employed at the University. But, I was stung by JTs' betrayal as were all true Bucknuts. I cannot abide the thread with the vest video.

Look up. AG. #45. 'Nuff said.
November 29, 2011  12:36 PM ET

I love you, Tinny.

November 29, 2011  12:42 PM ET

Well said. I would also welcome any #27's, #10's (both), the other #45 as well

November 29, 2011  12:45 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

A) I understand-- I just don't like HOW he chose to deal with the situation-- each time.B) I couldn't stomach the press conference-- I've been getting bits and pieces...C) (And most importantly)...Despite my Meyer stance, you still love me, right?

I kno I kno I kno, we have been done this raod many times you and I, and thank you for trying to understand, I think I chipped away a little of the rock solid stance last night. I will always have love for you and your unwavering support of the program and us meat-heads!

November 29, 2011  12:47 PM ET

You forgot a #22, #31, and #40...

November 29, 2011  12:49 PM ET

I was going with my personal favs

November 29, 2011  12:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

... I think I chipped away a little of the rock solid stance last night...

What can I say-- your charms are wearing me down... microscopic piece by microscopic piece...

November 29, 2011  12:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

I was going with my personal favs

Well, in that case, where's the 84?

;)

November 29, 2011  12:52 PM ET

the world never really knows where 84 is...who he is, or where he comes from...LOL

November 29, 2011  12:55 PM ET




Tears in your eyes?

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November 30, 2011  06:13 AM ET

I need a FN Shrink.

I've been a Cleveland/tOSU fan since before I knew how to root for a team. I'm so used to "so close, yet so far," and "there's always next year."

I was absolutely in love with JT. Then devestated when it hit the fan. How could this happen to my Bux?

I give Luke all the respect in the world. He's earned it 10 fold. He dealt with things in the past year that most people probably couldn't (and we probably don't know the half of it.)

Now the "Urban Renewal." I watched the press conference from beginning to end. Disconcerting thoughts kept going through my mind. Whose soul was forfeited for the signing of this coach? Is there gonna be a Karma backlash? Are we really getting who we think we're getting?

I just feel uneasy about this whole thing. I wish I could talk to JT one last time..

November 30, 2011  07:49 AM ET
QUOTE(#11):

Now the "Urban Renewal." I watched the press conference from beginning to end. Disconcerting thoughts kept going through my mind. Whose soul was forfeited for the signing of this coach? Is there gonna be a Karma backlash? Are we really getting who we think we're getting? I just feel uneasy about this whole thing. I wish I could talk to JT one last time..

Look to the man that hired Coach Meyer. He had his motivations for going after Meyer who just voluntary left a major program a year earlier because it was too stressful. Ohio State is Meyer's dream job, he grew up a Buckeye fan. So I do not question Meyer's motivations but I question the motivations of the Ohio State athletic department. I think they are making this hire a year too early. A back room deal could have been worked out to give Fickel a chance and if that did not work out, Meyer waiting in the wings with another year of "rest".

While I think that this hire is a year or two early, it is the right hire for the coach and the school.

To answer the question about what you are getting:
1. A coach who gives players multiple chances to succeed because when a school kicks a troubled kid off the team, it usually does not end well.
2. A coach who will look out for his players best interests.
3. A coach that absolutely hates losing, especially to rivals.
4. A coach that has not had problems with the NCAA. This is not a thumb in the eye of the NCAA right before they make a ruling.
5. A coach that has dealt with walking in the shadows of a legendary coach.
6. A coach that does not accept mediocrity.

November 30, 2011  11:52 AM ET

I will try to focus my Buckeye conversations here, but after 1300+ posts, it's kind of difficult to break the habit. And even though I am hurt, frustrated, and disappointed, despite everything that happened, I really do still love Tressel.

I don't think it comes as a surprise to anyone that I'm having a hard time letting go. I was too young to witness the negatives about Woody Hayes-- by the time I was a bona fide Scarlet and Gray girl, Woody had already risen to god-like status among Buckeye faithful. And if we can deify a man who hit a student, but from every other account was a good man who cared more deeply about his teams as human beings and students than he did as players, how on earth am I supposed to demonize a man who, other than lying to protect the players he was trying to teach, I saw walking his talk?

Luke was an acceptable surrogate-- he, too, is humble, gracious, fierce on the field yet gentle of spirit... he handled a ridiculously difficult situation extremely well, even though he really wasn't ready for it (though when you have a team that inexperienced and manage to break even and five of those losses are by a touchdown or less, you must be doing SOMETHING right). I am incredibly pissed off that the University, Urban, and the media treated him with so much disrespect in the week leading up to (and the hours after) The Game. It was disgraceful and disgusting. And I lament the fact that he wasn't given a chance to show what he could do with a staff of his choosing... I think he is going to be something really special in a few short years.

So now I am just supposed to start over, to transfer without question my devotion to a man that I have spent the past ten years despising. A man who, though indisputably an amazing coach, has shown himself to be, in many areas, antithetical to what I most admire. He is brash, he exhibits no signs of intellectualism or introspection, and putting it as gently as I can, he has an extremely healthy sense of self. I cannot make THAT big of a leap THAT quickly. I am certain that he is excited by this opportunity, and I believe that he will do right by OSU and by the team. But you'll have to forgive my skepticism about his off-field management, his motives, and his character-- I've seen all three in a negative light in more than one instance.

So you see, as hard as I try to make the transition, I am not quite ready to let go and move forward. Starting this new "relationship" with a new thread is complicated-- it is a reflection of my "relationship" with my team right now. And when I am finally to move on with my team, it will be reluctantly, tenuously, cautiously... and probably will be the same with the thread.

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November 30, 2011  01:21 PM ET

...but given the situation, dont the Buckeyes, need a coach with a high sense of self? This program wont get back on the national championship level with a passive, by the book, white and black thought process. HE will shake things up, HE will lead them in a new direction, and HE will do it his way, which based on everything I have seen, heard, read, and even been around, isnt the same as Tress, but is good.

Yes change sucks sometimes, and moving on is always hard, but sometimes the new is better than the old even when dont want to admit it.

November 30, 2011  02:11 PM ET

I don't think we'll be seeing UM sporting a sweater vest. @#$%^%$#@#! I want my Vest-Out! Dammit, Jim! [grumble, grumble]

November 30, 2011  02:19 PM ET

BSB has it right on. While I am disappointed in the final outcomes of UM's tenure at UF, when he was on his game, he was one helluva good coach. While the media sometimes crucified the guy for his approach to players with off-field issues, I honestly believe he was using his best judgement to give a good kid who'd made some bad choices a chance to show he could turn out fine.

November 30, 2011  02:40 PM ET

I just do get this thread! O-H-

November 30, 2011  03:51 PM ET
QUOTE(#15):

...but given the situation, dont the Buckeyes, need a coach with a high sense of self?

I agree there needs to be that fire on the field (which I think that both he and Luke have), but his off-field persona totally rubs me the wrong way. Always has. There is healthy self-esteem and then there is egoism (or worse), and he errs on the side of the latter, IMO.

Yes change sucks sometimes, and moving on is always hard, but sometimes the new is better than the old even when dont want to admit it.



I've always had a difficult time with change. Sometimes it is a good thing and even necessary, other times, not so much.

And until I've tried on the shoes to see if they are a proper fit, I'm not going to chuck the ones I have that I know will work for me, just because they are old and out of style. New and in fashion can be great, but it can also be horribly expensive and not worth the investment. Time will tell...

 
November 30, 2011  04:24 PM ET
QUOTE(#19):

I agree there needs to be that fire on the field (which I think that both he and Luke have), but his off-field persona totally rubs me the wrong way. Always has. There is healthy self-esteem and then there is egoism (or worse), and he errs on the side of the latter, IMO.

You need a full makeover starting with those shoes!

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