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OU, USC, Bama Top 3 and would leave it at 3.

ND has been bad for too long (almost 20 years now since a top team and over 10 since a top 10 team), would put them with Texas, NEB, tOSU, TSUN, PSU, UGA, and LSU.

Dumb posts like this are why I retired from this site.

This is just playground fodder, what a waste of time, (good thing I am at work).

no complaints; as far as playground fodder, what else is there to do from signing day to opening day.

Sure, there are args for others, and possibly args that some (coughNDcough) no longer belong, but their past more than makes up for recent absence.

Other teams like Nebraska, TOSU, Texas are arguable but, IMO, are a small step backward.

Lists like this are objective though, and it depends on what priorities you have. A good measure tho is always NC's, and a pretty comprehensive list for this is at:
http://www.collegefootballpoll.com/champions_national.html

Enjoy your retirement!

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Thanks for the link, Troy. The reason there are so many duo-national titles is that the bowl games were considered an after-thought until around 1970. Post-season play was merely for fun

Your man John McKay was incensed that the UPI wouldn't award his team the Nat Title until after the bowl season was over on 1/1/73. Before 73, AP/UPI crowned the winner before the bowl season.

Hard to believe now.

BTW: On the listed site USC, Bama, and ND each have 11 NC's while OU has only 7. This site is Coaches/BCS/UPI and AP since 1940. Prior to that the polls were:
1869-1882: National Championship Foundation
1883-1935: Helms Athletic Foundation (H)
1924-1940: The Dickinson System (D)

Bama NC's: 1925, '26, '61, '64, '65, '73, '78, '79, '92, '2009, '2011.
USC NC's: 1928, '1931, '32, '39, '62, '67, '72, '74, '78, '03, '04.
ND NC's: 1924, '29, '30, '38, '43, '47, '49, '66, '73, '77, '88.
OU NC's: 1950, '55, '56, '74, '75, '85, 2000.

QUOTE(#6):

Originally posted 03:51 PM ET  02.21 by GoFloSemis

Thanks for the link, Troy. The reason there are so many duo-national titles is that the bowl games were considered an after-thought until around 1970. Post-season play was merely for funYour man John McKay was incensed that the UPI wouldn't award his team the Nat Title until after the bowl season was over on 1/1/73. Before 73, AP/UPI crowned the winner before the bowl season.Hard to believe now.

True, and much can be argued about any "popularity contest", but contrary to popular belief there haven't been more than 2 major polls at any one time, and at time there were only 1.

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Originally posted 02:42 PM ET  02.21 by Armpit

OU, USC, Bama Top 3 and would leave it at 3.ND has been bad for too long (almost 20 years now since a top team and over 10 since a top 10 team), would put them with Texas, NEB, tOSU, TSUN, PSU, UGA, and LSU.

ND is one NC away from being on top of the list. Not sure when that would happen, though.

Would include UTk and FSU at next level before UGA imo.

QUOTE(#3):

Originally posted 03:08 PM ET  02.21 by Hammered_in_Soup

Dumb posts like this are why I retired from this site.This is just playground fodder, what a waste of time, (good thing I am at work).

ta ta

QUOTE(#7):

Originally posted 04:19 PM ET  02.21 by UlTroyFanII

BTW: On the listed site USC, Bama, and ND each have 11 NC's while OU has only 7. This site is Coaches/BCS/UPI and AP since 1940. Prior to that the polls were:1869-1882: National Championship Foundation1883-1935: Helms Athletic Foundation (H)1924-1940: The Dickinson System (D) Bama NC's: 1925, '26, '61, '64, '65, '73, '78, '79, '92, '2009, '2011.USC NC's: 1928, '1931, '32, '39, '62, '67, '72, '74, '78, '03, '04.ND NC's: 1924, '29, '30, '38, '43, '47, '49, '66, '73, '77, '88.OU NC's: 1950, '55, '56, '74, '75, '85, 2000.

IMO you should only consider records past 1946....that is when AP became a leading poll....and, by some, is considered the beginning of the "modern era"

If you go by win % since 1945 (and pretend that SOS are roughly comparable), you get:
1. Oklahoma
2. tOSU
3. Penn State
4. Texas
5. Michigan
6. Nebraska
7. Alabama
8. USC
9. Notre Dame
10. UTk

If you only look at 1960 to present:
1. Nebraska
2. tOSU
3, Penn State
4. alabama
5. OU
6. Texas
7. Michigan
8. USC
9. UF
10. FSU

QUOTE(#9):

Originally posted 08:39 PM ET  02.21 by Dead Money

ND is one NC away from being on top of the list. Not sure when that would happen, though. Would include UTk and FSU at next level before UGA imo.

FSU was only good from the 70's onward from what I understand. UTK maybe, but I thought historically UGA was a better team.

QUOTE(#12):

Originally posted 09:58 PM ET  02.21 by UB bulls

If you go by win % since 1945 (and pretend that SOS are roughly comparable), you get:1. Oklahoma2. tOSU3. Penn State4. Texas5. Michigan6. Nebraska7. Alabama8. USC9. Notre Dame10. UTkIf you only look at 1960 to present:1. Nebraska2. tOSU3, Penn State4. alabama5. OU6. Texas7. Michigan8. USC9. UF10. FSU

Not a bad, but not the best method either. Total wins doesn't allow for teams that were truly outstanding and then average. IMHO teams with top 2-3 peaks and occassional 6-6 or even 5-7 seasons (Bama) are more impressive then teams that plug along and do 20 years of 8-4/9-3 seasons (Nebraska for most of the 70's and 80's).

QUOTE(#3):

Originally posted 03:08 PM ET  02.21 by Hammered_in_Soup

Dumb posts like this are why I retired from this site.This is just playground fodder, what a waste of time, (good thing I am at work).

Dude, the whole BCS system is playground fodder, so what exactly is your point?

QUOTE(#12):

Originally posted 09:58 PM ET  02.21 by UB bulls

If you go by win % since 1945 (and pretend that SOS are roughly comparable), you get:1. Oklahoma2. tOSU3. Penn State4. Texas5. Michigan6. Nebraska7. Alabama8. USC9. Notre Dame10. UTkIf you only look at 1960 to present:1. Nebraska2. tOSU3, Penn State4. alabama5. OU6. Texas7. Michigan8. USC9. UF10. FSU

I'd think you'd have to look at championships, too, but as we all agree, it's all opinion, anyway. Well, except some Texas fans who think all they do is post fact.

Just a coupla points:

Post-1945: One could argue that college has been in decline since then. It has been usurped by the pro game since the mid-1950s. Fans used to rush down to the train station by the 10,000s to greet college teams coming home. It was the only game in town/county/state.

Penn State's high winning percentage: Penn St. was a non-class act beating up on third-tier schools until the late 1970s. It always had patsy schedules. Nobody took the team seriously. So the high winning percentage means nothing, IMHO.

Florida State and Florida schools: I'm a Noles fan because I have lived around here for a long time. But a lot of State fans have no sense of history. Flarida football meant almost nothing in the big realm of things until almost the very end of the last millenium.

QUOTE(#11):

Originally posted 09:15 PM ET  02.21 by RIP Ray Manzarek

IMO you should only consider records past 1946....that is when AP became a leading poll....and, by some, is considered the beginning of the "modern era"

This is what I mean when I say it's kinda hard to say what 'best' is: I would say NC's is a large part, and since the post clearly states "in CFB history" my opine is that the data on the sites given is valid.

But, if you just want 'modern' history, I would say at least 1940 when the AP began, but I still have a prob with discounting everything prior. An opinion is an opinion, whether it comes from the BCS, the coaches, the sportswriters, or predominant polls in their day like the Dickenson system. The NCAA, I BELIEVE, lets each school recognize who they will, and some programs are more 'liberal' in what they recognize than others.

And then some would not only discount pre 1945, but base it on win %. Nothing wrong with either apoproach cuz this subject is so highly subjective, IMO.

QUOTE(#17):

Originally posted 11:39 AM ET  02.22 by GoFloSemis

Just a coupla points:Post-1945: One could argue that college has been in decline since then. It has been usurped by the pro game since the mid-1950s. Fans used to rush down to the train station by the 10,000s to greet college teams coming home. It was the only game in town/county/state.Penn State's high winning percentage: Penn St. was a non-class act beating up on third-tier schools until the late 1970s. It always had patsy schedules. Nobody took the team seriously. So the high winning percentage means nothing, IMHO. Florida State and Florida schools: I'm a Noles fan because I have lived around here for a long time. But a lot of State fans have no sense of history. Flarida football meant almost nothing in the big realm of things until almost the very end of the last millenium.

Something else to consider: If you don't start counting until 1945/1946, you completely discount some of the greats like Knute Rockne, Pop Warner, Howard Jones, Glen Davis and Doc Blanchard (except 1 year for GD), Red 'the Galloping Ghost' Grange, etc. All because the polls of the day had not established themselves to the exclusion of other polls consideration?

An '*' maybe, but they should at least be tallied. JMO.

The only prob is you must then consider the Ivy leaguer's which pretty much dominated up until about 1913-1920 (Yale - 17, Princeton - 14, Harvard - 8), and then dissappeared. No, they aren't among the greatest, but they once were and they pioneered the sport.

It's all good tho...

BTW, greatest team ever? Not my opinion necessarily but 1901 Michigan must be considered. They were 11-0, beat Stanford in the Rose 49-0, and outscored their opponents 550-0. Pretty hard to argue that unless you take the "couldn't compete with modern atheletes" tactic, but I am talking relative to their era, not who would win a tourney.