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March 21, 2012, 01:51 PM
The NFL is suspending former New Orleans Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams indefinitely and Saints head coach Sean Payton for one year because of the team's bounty program, the league said Wednesday.

The Saints also will be fined $500,000 and forfeit their second-round selections in the 2012 and 2013 NFL drafts, the league said.

In addition, the league also is suspending Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis for the first eight regular-season games of the 2012 season, and Saints assistant head coach Joe Vitt for the first six regular-season games, the NFL said in a news release.
March 21, 2012  01:54 PM ET

Holy crap! I didn't see the fines, picks and assistant coach penalties.

Saints are in deep doo doo!

March 21, 2012  01:59 PM ET

Big time spanking!

March 21, 2012  02:07 PM ET

Who said spank?

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March 21, 2012  05:55 PM ET

This is a huge deal on the league. I think the punishment was too harsh.

Many players came out after the revelation and indicated these sort of "side bets" have been going on for ages. Big hits in the film-room would yield big payout (not really that big considering what they make) and sometimes big hits also injured a player on the field. One analogy I heard is how different is this from putting the little stars (or what have you) on college helmets? How do you think those stars come about? Big hits, does a guy NOT get the star if someone was injured?

I am not about taking out a guys knees, aiming for the head etc. I just understand that this sort of thing will go on. Favre was not a bit surprised when this came out, he knew it as "part of the game". I'm OK with the league trying to stop it, not OK with them hammering the Saints so hard on it though.

March 21, 2012  11:09 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

This is a huge deal on the league. I think the punishment was too harsh. Many players came out after the revelation and indicated these sort of "side bets" have been going on for ages. Big hits in the film-room would yield big payout (not really that big considering what they make) and sometimes big hits also injured a player on the field. One analogy I heard is how different is this from putting the little stars (or what have you) on college helmets? How do you think those stars come about? Big hits, does a guy NOT get the star if someone was injured?I am not about taking out a guys knees, aiming for the head etc. I just understand that this sort of thing will go on. Favre was not a bit surprised when this came out, he knew it as "part of the game". I'm OK with the league trying to stop it, not OK with them hammering the Saints so hard on it though.

Thanks forty, you just saved me carpel tunnel!

March 21, 2012  11:11 PM ET

HIGH JACK! I MISS U BIG TIME!

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March 22, 2012  08:18 AM ET
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I'm not a fan of taking away the picks and punishing the entire team into the indefinite future. Punish the people who had a hand in this sure .. but leave the draft picks out of the equation.

Goodell is just following precendent.....think "spygate" The players and coaches represented the franchise, therefore, the franchise also is at fault for allowing an atmosphere which encouraged this activity....

March 23, 2012  06:09 PM ET

They say the NFL is a business, so if I am running a business and give my employees a bonus for injuring my competitors, making it easier for my business to succeed, that's called a crime and I as well as my employees would likely serve time in jail. The penalty was not too harsh, I believe it was fair and just.

March 23, 2012  06:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

This is a huge deal on the league. I think the punishment was too harsh. Many players came out after the revelation and indicated these sort of "side bets" have been going on for ages. Big hits in the film-room would yield big payout (not really that big considering what they make) and sometimes big hits also injured a player on the field. One analogy I heard is how different is this from putting the little stars (or what have you) on college helmets? How do you think those stars come about? Big hits, does a guy NOT get the star if someone was injured?I am not about taking out a guys knees, aiming for the head etc. I just understand that this sort of thing will go on. Favre was not a bit surprised when this came out, he knew it as "part of the game". I'm OK with the league trying to stop it, not OK with them hammering the Saints so hard on it though.

Though I agree with your reasoning, I think the reason for the harshness of the penalties is to send a loud and clear message to the league that this will not be tolerated and this is what to expect if you partake in bounties...

Howdy +40yr, by the way. Long time no yack.

March 23, 2012  06:16 PM ET

And howdy JACK! Where you been hiding?

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March 23, 2012  07:49 PM ET

When Goddell is lied to as it appears he was when he first talked to Payton about this and his investigation verifies that he was lied to the penalties get harsher. Don't lie to the Commish.

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