MMA  > General MMA  > Fedor in UFC?
April 9, 2012, 12:52 PM
Conspiracy theory here.
but fedor made interviews stating he wants go join UFC.
Then he was spotted training using UFC gloves.

Now jump back to reality.
We are 1.5 months away from an ALL HW card in which the championship belt is on the line.

The challenger is caught cheating.

add 1+1 and I ask you: "If this plays out correctly, how would you feel for a JDS & Fedor fight?"

I understand all talk about Fedor and his losses.

but still, think about all Fighters and resume, and there's no one equal of Fedor in all HW division.

Win or lose, he would enter UFC with a Bang! would be a HUGE publicity for him & UFC and would finally bring the past and the present together.

Moreover, it would finally shut any outside competition and cement UFC as the only place to be!

Fedor wins, and we haveno end to matchups made in heaven.
Barnett, Mir and even an eventual rematch with hendo!

Think about it!
April 9, 2012  01:22 PM ET

of all the people that DON'T deserve a title shot, Fedor is at the very tippy top of the list....he's on a 3 fight losing streak since you can't really count the BS against a 40 yr old washed up Monson...Fedor doesn't belong in UFC....UFC is for good fighters...

April 9, 2012  01:37 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

of all the people that DON'T deserve a title shot, Fedor is at the very tippy top of the list....he's on a 3 fight losing streak since you can't really count the BS against a 40 yr old washed up Monson...Fedor doesn't belong in UFC....UFC is for good fighters...

I actually agree with Loki here. Add him to the card yes and regardless of who he fights its a boost in ppvs. But a title fight? No way. That would piss off more people than it would generate buzz. No one with 3 losses in a row should get a title fight, regardless of their legendary status and lengthy resume'.

April 9, 2012  01:44 PM ET

Fedor is not in a 3 fighting loss streak.

He actually won 2.

And if you claim this for fedor, isn't it the same for Mir? he lost to Lesnar & carwin then beat an old Cro Cop, Roy and an old Nog.

Again, I agree with you he shouldn't be a title contender, but they COULD use his resume to explain.

Even haters like Loki can't dismiss his victories without applying the same for Mir.

April 9, 2012  02:20 PM ET

Even being the #1 all-time HW, you can't give Fedor a UFC title shot right now.

Sorry, can't happen.

Beat a can and an over the hill opponent, and before that had 3 straight losses.

If he wants to fight in the UFC, then he needs to climb the ladder first. Not like a rookie, but like any other serious contender.

Minotauro and Cro Cop have almost as impressive resumes, and you can't give them title shots either.

April 9, 2012  02:33 PM ET

And I agree with you.

However, your point can apply to Mir, barnett, hunt, heck, even Hendo!
And those are the ones that are on a win streak!

So who deserves?

And if all are on the same boat, by bringing fedor, they (at least) could hype him.

April 9, 2012  03:05 PM ET
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Fedor is not in a 3 fighting loss streak.He actually won 2.And if you claim this for fedor, isn't it the same for Mir? he lost to Lesnar & carwin then beat an old Cro Cop, Roy and an old Nog.Again, I agree with you he shouldn't be a title contender, but they COULD use his resume to explain.Even haters like Loki can't dismiss his victories without applying the same for Mir.

Mir isnt going to fight JDS though, Dana already said Cain/Mir is on

April 9, 2012  03:11 PM ET
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Mir isnt going to fight JDS though, Dana already said Cain/Mir is on

Again, you are not reading what i am saying correctly.

Mir is as deserving as Fedor.
And who else is deserving?

I see no one.

If you claim Fedor didn't beat top opponents lately, who did?

I see you guys are putting a lot of effort in discrediting everything, but no one ventures a better solution.

And as I noted: I am not stating this is a great solution. Just that it would be as good as any available (or even not available) by UFC.

April 9, 2012  03:45 PM ET
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Again, you are not reading what i am saying correctly.Mir is as deserving as Fedor.And who else is deserving?I see no one.If you claim Fedor didn't beat top opponents lately, who did?I see you guys are putting a lot of effort in discrediting everything, but no one ventures a better solution.And as I noted: I am not stating this is a great solution. Just that it would be as good as any available (or even not available) by UFC.

I never said Mir should be the one to step in. I had recommended a Cain/JDS rematch in the other thread but no one else thought it was a good idea. If no one else deserves a shot because they either are coming off bad losses or the guys that have some wins got them against crap opponents then why not a rematch with a guy who was undefeated the last time they fought and probably didnt fight well because he was coming off of surgery and a long layoff (see Shogun for examples of how poorly that usually goes). Their first fight was unsatisfying because it ended so quick but it was just a 1 punch KO and it wasnt like Cain was getting owned for 2 rounds before the KO. It was within the first minute and nothing else happened. I bet if they did the rematch it would be the high quality fight we were all expecting last time.

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April 9, 2012  04:35 PM ET
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I'm starting to think the Overeem-JDS fight is gonna happen. Call me crazy, but it appears the UFC and Overeem are getting their ducks in a row for April 24th. Something is going on behind the scenes that none of us are aware of.Could be Overeem says he was on TRT and has a note now. Could be a loophole in the testing process. Who knows, but I'm leaning the NSAC licensing him for the fight in May.

I thought I had read he had a chance to take another test and if he passed, and if the commission ruled favorably, then he would be ok. But I don't remember where I read that or if it is true. I really hope he doesnt claim the TRT excuse and go with that. I'm tired of hearing that BS by everyone who fails a test. I would like to know what % of the regular population under goes that therapy, what % say football players or other professional athletes use it, and then compare that to the number of MMA guys. Because I think the guys in the UFC are the only ones I have ever heard claiming to need it.

April 9, 2012  04:36 PM ET
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I never said Mir should be the one to step in. I had recommended a Cain/JDS rematch in the other thread but no one else thought it was a good idea. If no one else deserves a shot because they either are coming off bad losses or the guys that have some wins got them against crap opponents then why not a rematch with a guy who was undefeated the last time they fought and probably didnt fight well because he was coming off of surgery and a long layoff (see Shogun for examples of how poorly that usually goes). Their first fight was unsatisfying because it ended so quick but it was just a 1 punch KO and it wasnt like Cain was getting owned for 2 rounds before the KO. It was within the first minute and nothing else happened. I bet if they did the rematch it would be the high quality fight we were all expecting last time.

I see your point. I just can't agree with it.
The fight being fast? that is what I was expecting of JDS to do.
if it was 3-5 rounds deep, then i was sure Cain would have the upper hand, as JDS would be more tired and probably would not be able to stuff all takedowns.

The problem with the fight is that it ended decisively and without controversy.

You gave the example of Rua, and I am guessing against Bones. Why do you think there wasn't a rematch? because people simply don't get rematches for the belt unless there was some sort of controversy.

So I don't think it would be good for Cain to win like that.

I do think JDS and Cain will battle one or more times in the future for the belt. but I don't think Cain is any more deserving than Mir or Fedor for that matter...

April 9, 2012  04:40 PM ET
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I'm starting to think the Overeem-JDS fight is gonna happen. Call me crazy, but it appears the UFC and Overeem are getting their ducks in a row for April 24th. Something is going on behind the scenes that none of us are aware of.Could be Overeem says he was on TRT and has a note now. Could be a loophole in the testing process. Who knows, but I'm leaning the NSAC licensing him for the fight in May.

well, acting like a lawyer, you could claim that AO should have never been tested since he didn't even have a license to fight.
This voids any claims he was using PED, since he wasn't licensed (they can't do anything to him).

it is the equivalent of someone being popped for talking on the phone when the prosecution did not have a warrant to listen to phone conversations...

Overeem just applied for a license. Now it will be interesting to see how it will play out.

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April 9, 2012  05:23 PM ET
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Exactly a type of loophole I was referring to. I think the UFC believes they some sort of defense here.

Hunt just put a celebration through his tweeter account.
He didn't say what was it, but it was like a huge hint suggesting he would be the one to fight JDS.

I hope they do not have to resort to this...

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April 9, 2012  05:48 PM ET
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Talk about not deserving of a title shot. At least it would fireworks while it lasted.

His last three fights are just as impressive as the others mentioned.

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April 9, 2012  09:54 PM ET

Welcome back, Roni.

Despite Fedor's dropoff these past couple of years, he'd definitely be easy enough to market based on overall career. Unfortunately, based on M-1's delusions and based on the various egos involved, I don't think we'll even see him in the UFC despite this unique opportunity.

If common sense reigned, they could sign Fedor to a simple $2 per buy PPV deal and everybody wins (financially). Dana would also (likely) get the satisfaction of seeing "his" champ put a beat down on M-1's main man which would give him the edge in negotiations for follow-up fights.

Alas, like you say, it's conspiracy theory thinking at this stage.
Mir is likely going to get the shot and they can use the Big Nog arm-snap as their marketing focus(although there's an outside shot at them throwing Mark Hunt in there - like they did when they gave Mighty Mouse a shot at Cruz while they made the real top contenders Faber and Bowles fight it out for a legitimately earned shot).

 
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