NCAAF  > General NCAAF  > Props for the Old Dudes
April 10, 2012, 01:11 PM
You know the kinda guy I' taqlking about. Always there, always making the play, but just never getting his due props.

Thought I would get the ball rolling with USC CB Dennis Thurman. In his Trojan career, he had 13 interceptions, returning two for touchdowns, and led the Pac-10 Conference in interceptions with eight in 1976. Thurman also had 169 career tackles, 11 pass deflections and four fumble recoveries. He was USC's MVP in 1977 and won USC's Defensive Player of the Year Award in 1977. He played in the 1978 Senior Bowl and was a 1977 Playboy Pre-Season All-American. He led USC in interceptions in 1976 (eight, tops in the Pac-8) and led USC in punt returns in 1976 (68 yards). Thurman is tied for sixth on USC's career interception list (13, including two intercepted fumbles). Lott credits Thurman for his development as a player in his Pro Football Hall of Fame speech stating Thurman was someone who "helped me become a better football player."[1]

Went to Dallas in the 11th rnd. He is 2nd on the Cowboys int list with 36 int (returned for 562 yards)

Maybe not a HOFer, but a guy worth remembering...

You got any guys like that from the Daze that never got their due recognition? Give it to them here...
April 10, 2012  09:21 PM ET

Priest Holmes. A very talented back who unfortunately played at Texas at the same time as Ricky Williams. He scored 3 TDs in the inaugural Big 12 championship game. Holmes went on to prove himself in the NFL where he was a 3X Pro Bowler, 3X All Pro, AP NFL Offensive Player of the Year (2002), and he won a Super Bowl. When he retired, Holmes had 83 NFL touchdowns. Not too shabby for a 3rd string RB from Texas.

April 10, 2012  09:25 PM ET

UlTroyFanII - Dennis Thurman was a real pro for the Cowboys. I was at the NFC semi-final game in 1983 when he returned an interception for a TD against Green Bay. Funny story too but I'll FM you on that one.

April 10, 2012  09:32 PM ET

Speaking of Cowboys....Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters. I believe that they were both FA's? that "walked on"?

April 10, 2012  09:39 PM ET

Three cheers for ole number 5 Blair Kiel, first true freshman QB to ever start for Notre Dame.
Passed away just last Easter Sunday while enjoying the Holiday with friends and family.
Blair Kiel uncle of Gunner Kiel, born 1961 died 2012. R.I.P and give em hell in that great big grid iron in the sky!

April 10, 2012  09:39 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Speaking of Cowboys....Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters. I believe that they were both FA's? that "walked on"?

OK...checked....Cliff Harris was a FA who beat out Charlie Waters the first year.... Waters was 3rd round pick...

April 10, 2012  09:40 PM ET
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Three cheers for ole number 5 Blair Kiel, first true freshman QB to ever start for Notre Dame.Passed away just last Easter Sunday while enjoying the Holiday with friends and family.Blair Kiel uncle of Gunner Kiel, born 1961 died 2012. R.I.P and give em hell in that great big grid iron in the sky!

I raise my glass ...

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April 11, 2012  01:43 PM ET
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UlTroyFanII - Dennis Thurman was a real pro for the Cowboys. I was at the NFC semi-final game in 1983 when he returned an interception for a TD against Green Bay. Funny story too but I'll FM you on that one.

Cool. tho I was living in Ft Worth I often had work related stays in Santa Monica. Went to watch the Cowboy Training Camp at Thousand Oaks. Brought my USC cap and got his autograph, he stopped to talk USC football for a minute or 2, seemed like a great guy.

But yes, he was a very DB who contributed at a time between Cowboy dynasties (after Staubauch, before Aikman) unless you count '78/'79 before he started. Under-rated IMO...

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April 11, 2012  01:57 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Three cheers for ole number 5 Blair Kiel, first true freshman QB to ever start for Notre Dame.Passed away just last Easter Sunday while enjoying the Holiday with friends and family.Blair Kiel uncle of Gunner Kiel, born 1961 died 2012. R.I.P and give em hell in that great big grid iron in the sky!

Speaking of Dearly departed, one of my fav USC RB's, Ricky Bell. Sad story to me. He coulda won the Heisman in '76 if not for a guy named Tony Dorsett, and he died way to early.

#1 overall pick by Tampa in the '77 draft, but unknown at the time Bell was already on his way down (Bell died in 1984 of heart failure caused by dermatomyositis.)

From his Wiki: "Bell enjoyed his finest season, rushing for 1,263 yards and leading the Buccaneers to the NFC Central Division crown. He led the Buccaneers to their first playoff win in franchise history that season by rushing for 142 yards on 38 carries scoring 2 touchdowns against the Philadelphia Eagles. The team fell one game short of a trip to Super Bowl XIV, ending their season as NFC runners up to the Los Angeles Rams."

Tidbit: Ricky's brother was Archie Bell, one hit wonder of Archie Bell and the Drells (Tighten Up), tho he actually had more than one song that's all anyone remembers.

April 11, 2012  02:19 PM ET
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You know, trying to think of someone, my mind keeps going to Lawrence McCutcheon. Except I do actually think he got his due props. He was a very good running back during his time with the Rams. The interesting thing I happened to discover is that he's been with the Rams franchise for 38 years!Thats just pure awesomeness in my book.

I also am a LM fan, and had somewhat to say about him on the who's looking good thread by way of being the Gandpa of Tre Madden (who ripped up his knee, out for the year damt). I was a big (LA) Ram fan in the day. I've always liked the big bruiser power backs that could also do something once past the LOS, like just mentioned Ricky B and Ricky Williams, the Tyler Rose, and LenDale White (WTF happened there, I really thought he had a future, more so than Bush).

But, I put up a Larry M vid on that thread, check it out.

April 11, 2012  02:30 PM ET
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I'd like to throw in a former Ohio State Buckeye, Jim Marshall. He helped win a MNC and Rose Bowl under Woody Hayes in the late 1950s. In a game against Purdue, he almost single-handedly won the game from his DT position, Scoring TDs on an interception and a fumble recovery as well as kicking the PATs (won 14-0). Jim was an All-American at tOSU and is enshrined at tOSU HOF and College FBHOF.Marshall played 20 seasons in his long career in the NFL, played in 282 consecutive games with Cleveland and Minnesota, and still holds the NFL record for fumble recoveries (29) and a dubious one for the longest safety (66 yards) on a wrong-way run. His teams won 11 Divisional championships (1 with Cleveland, 10 with Minnesota), and he played in four Super Bowls for the Vikings.Jim Marshall has been involved in many great civic causes post-career with the Ronald McDonald House, Children's Miracle Network, Life's Missing Link, and a host of other causes.Although Jim Marshall has not been elected to the Pro Football HOF as yet, there is a grass-roots effort to see this accomplished. It would be a nice tribute to the "Iron Man" of the NFL.

Ahh yes, Jim Marshall and the PPE, the bane of the Rams NFC title hopes in the '70s. I am surprised he isn't in, he should be...

April 11, 2012  02:36 PM ET

In the absence of 0-6, I ask your consideration of Jeff Van Note. Jeff played for the University of Kentucky as both running back and defensive end. In 1969, he was drafted as a linebacker in the 11th round by the Atlanta Falcons. Van Note spent 1969 playing for the minor league (remember this brief moment in pro football history?) Huntsville (AL) Hawks.

Despite Jeff's modest background, then coach of the Falcons, Norm Van Brocklin moved Van Note to center, where he soon excelled - 18 years with one team (the Falcons), 5 pro bowl appearances, twice AP all-pro 2nd team, 246 games, starting 225 of them. He retired in 1986, and his jersey #57 is one of the few retired by the Falcons.

Van Note has enjoyed a second career as a color commentator for the Falcons, UK, and GA Tech. He also filled in for the Tennessee Oilers/Titans' broadcasts during their initial year in Nashville. Jeff also hosts Falcons pregame & call-in shows and the occasional sports talk show.

Jeff was a Harris poll voter in 2011.

April 11, 2012  03:22 PM ET

Ah nuts. I thought this was a thread dedicated to recognizing the Depends wearing set here on FN.

April 11, 2012  03:39 PM ET
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Ah nuts. I thought this was a thread dedicated to recognizing the Depends wearing set here on FN.

I am actually glad it wasn't. Trying to eat my lunch over here.

April 11, 2012  05:06 PM ET

Cory Reamer for Alabama. Linebacker on the 2009 team. Hel we had people saying he should be culled from the team, but that mean Ol Sabenz kept him around. And damn if he didn't have a great year in 2009. He tried out for the Jets but they had a bunch of good linebackers and couldnt't really use a 235 pound somewhat slow LB that was damned smart - so smart Ryan singled him out as one of the smartest guys they had seen come through. Knew the whole playbook. And said if they had room, they would have kept him.

And Jerrell Harris. Never quite seemed to "get it" until fall 2011. In spring game last year, mean ol Sabenz yelled at him for being out of position that let him be sealed off and Dee Hart ran in a TD for 20+ yards. Then he had a really good year in 2011, his best game in the NC game against the option.

April 12, 2012  12:31 PM ET

Post-whackage UTFII board lift.

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April 12, 2012  01:15 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

Ah nuts. I thought this was a thread dedicated to recognizing the Depends wearing set here on FN.

Sorry, but you can start one... still a ways away myself, good Lord willin and the Creek don't rise...

 
April 12, 2012  01:22 PM ET
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Cory Reamer for Alabama. Linebacker on the 2009 team. Hel we had people saying he should be culled from the team, but that mean Ol Sabenz kept him around. And damn if he didn't have a great year in 2009. He tried out for the Jets but they had a bunch of good linebackers and couldnt't really use a 235 pound somewhat slow LB that was damned smart - so smart Ryan singled him out as one of the smartest guys they had seen come through. Knew the whole playbook. And said if they had room, they would have kept him. And Jerrell Harris. Never quite seemed to "get it" until fall 2011. In spring game last year, mean ol Sabenz yelled at him for being out of position that let him be sealed off and Dee Hart ran in a TD for 20+ yards. Then he had a really good year in 2011, his best game in the NC game against the option.

Sam the Bam, Bear, and John M for doin their part towards integration.

And Mosi Tatupu, a Blue Collar kinda guy that always gave 100%, whether playing fullback or being the object of his fans, ""Mosi's Mooses", as a special team leader for the Pats.

RIP Mosi, Bear and John...

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