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April 24, 2012, 09:00 PM
So Overeem has been denied his license. How long before UFC sends him packing? How much credit can be given to his victories?
Since none of us are surprised, what does this do to Overeem's legacy? Where can you rank him now?
Sound off Fannation!
April 24, 2012  10:24 PM ET

I will sound crazy for typing this but I honestly don't think it affects his legacy in any way. The ones who call him a superhero of a fighter will continue to believe in him and support him. The ones, like me, who recognized the absurdity of his claim that "horsemeat" gained him 50 lbs of muscle are not surprised and continue to discound any win of his just like before this story broke. So I think his career follows that of another HW repeat offender, Josh Barnett. He will fight when and where his cycle schedule allow him to and will hopefully be remembered as a fantastic kickboxer but not as any sort of all time great.

April 24, 2012  11:57 PM ET

I'm a fan of Reem, but I never thought he had much of a legacy. The first thought that pops in my mind when you say Alistair Overeem is Shogun knocking him out twice.

April 25, 2012  04:31 AM ET

9 months out.

April 25, 2012  07:41 AM ET

If they stuck to the standard full year, I could see UFC getting rid of him as a show of principle...but the way it was shortened to 9 months so he could be licensed for the big year-end show makes it seem like a shady deal where UFC paid off the Nevada Commission....Nevada gets the big payday when the big event is held in Vegas....UFC is getting dangerously close to having as much credibility as Pride...what point is there to having drug testing if the results are ignored and the commission formed to stop steroid use jumps at any chance to permit a loophole?
His wins since he became a HW are all in doubt now and he wasn't very good as a LHW...since I already knew he was roiding since then, so it doesn't really change his legacy. If anything, how UFC handles the situation tarnishes the UFC.

April 25, 2012  08:18 AM ET

To be honest I never thought he really had much of a legacy. I always looked at him as a good fighter and thought his run in the ufc would boost his legacy. Now, we will just have to wait and see what happens.

April 25, 2012  09:35 AM ET
QUOTE(#4):

If they stuck to the standard full year, I could see UFC getting rid of him as a show of principle...but the way it was shortened to 9 months so he could be licensed for the big year-end show makes it seem like a shady deal where UFC paid off the Nevada Commission....Nevada gets the big payday when the big event is held in Vegas....UFC is getting dangerously close to having as much credibility as Pride...what point is there to having drug testing if the results are ignored and the commission formed to stop steroid use jumps at any chance to permit a loophole? His wins since he became a HW are all in doubt now and he wasn't very good as a LHW...since I already knew he was roiding since then, so it doesn't really change his legacy. If anything, how UFC handles the situation tarnishes the UFC.

Good theory but IMO I don't buy it. Regardless Vegas is making their money whether its a boxing match or Sesame street circus coming into town. Vegas Makes Billions a year.

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April 25, 2012  11:18 AM ET

IMO suspensions do NOTHING for the PED users. After Chael failed he bulked up even more to 217 i think. During suspension they can keep using and get enough time to clean out the system. The promotion (UFC) should test every single guy on the roster once every 2 weeks, this way they can not cycle on and off. It actual gets me mad to hear these lame excuses.

April 25, 2012  11:20 AM ET

Same IMO with Rashad. Did anyone see how that guy looked while he was "sidelined"?
Dana should implement a no tolerance policy. If its not on your medical record, goodbye.
Same with TRT, if it puts you above NORMAL levels, it should not be allowed.

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April 28, 2012  03:07 AM ET
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This.Also, he'll serve his time and be ready for SB weekend. And he'll probably fight for the title.

Before SB weekend, he will almost certainly headline the year end Vegas PPV.

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April 28, 2012  03:37 PM ET

Reem won't be fighting for the UFC in 2012. From what I understand, there isn't enough time for him to get licensed and the UFC to do all their promotional nonsense before the end of the year.

And really, Overeem is one of the dumbest fighters out there. He disappears on the day of his test before the Brock fight, and then takes 3 weeks to find a lab in Europe and still submits the wrong test. Yikes. And of course, NSAC which is as corrupt as they come still grant him a conditional license. And then when Reem fails his FIRST random drug test - they only suspend him for a portion of the regular penalty. Absurd.

But Reem is so dumb, he'll fail his next test, and Dana will be forced to cut him.

Reem is a joke anyway. He was a good LHW who became great at HW because of the steroids. That's it. End of story.

 
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