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July 31, 2008, 11:30 PM
Guys...I know a lot of the people who are voting in the HOF ballots are relative newbies to FanNation, but that doesn't explain why people do one thing and are automatically anointed "HOF-Worthy".

It pains me to see guys like Denis, EF, Wallace, IrishR#1, etc. who are integral and great members of our site not making the HOF and in some cases, not even getting nominated.

People, when your reasons for picking a person for the final ballot is "frickin hilarious" or saying it's only because they're a good guy, it's not good. What have they actually DONE to deserve being in the HOF?

EF brought this up before, we're voting for the "Flavors of the month" so to speak (I can't find that damn thread...he worded it really well...). We're voting for the people who are active now, TDing every day, blogging regularly and well, etc. What about the veteran members of the site who DON'T do that anymore. Does the fact that they're retired tarnish their reputation? All the guys I mentioned earlier are like that. They don't do much stuff anymore, but the stuff they've done before is some of the best stuff that's ever been put out on this site.

Guys like Mac, who has now been on more ballots than Ben, I believe, Oso, who was a great member when he was still active, he blogged, TDed every once in a while, and helped people out, and Cardsox, who almost no one has EVER seen blog (until today I think...), and Favrefan, aren't going to get in before guys like (and if I mention your name here, it's not a personal shot, I'm just blowing off a bunch of steam right now) Porkins (a relative newbie), hemo, and Ghosthunter.

Now, you're probably saying, these are the best members of our site today. Go back to last summer, the guys I mentioned earlier were the best members of our site then. But they aren't getting the recognition they deserve...

In my opinion, I think a member needs to be on here for at least a year to be nominated...will that change many of the nominations? No, not really, but it will allow the members who need to be recognized the chance to be nominated...

(I just needed to rant...)
July 31, 2008  11:57 PM ET

I think I've lost count how many ballots I've been on. Dont think I was nominated this last time, though. Actually laughed (however strange that may seem) when I saw that.

August 1, 2008  01:19 AM ET

FN HOF is kind of...well, a joke now. I mean, wasn't Peach a nominee?

August 1, 2008  01:49 AM ET

I think that was because EF was being a tard Lifer.Nice rant SS.

August 1, 2008  02:05 AM ET

Uhh, SS, just so you know, I've been here a while, done a lot... uhh, FACT CHECK!

Nah, just kidding. I agree with you. But still, I have Irish smoked. And EF. And Wallace. I donno about Denis, he's fierce.

August 1, 2008  02:10 AM ET

Has Mac really been on more than me? I was on something like 10 or 12 before I made it.

August 1, 2008  02:12 AM ET

By the way, I want this to be clear, SS, you're right, there are quite a few members who deserve entry into the hallowed halls of wherever the hell STI is based.

August 1, 2008  06:59 AM ET

I'm torn....I agree to a point that the vets who are no longer active aren't getting the recognition they deserver but there are guys (like Porkins) who even though a "newbie" your standards SS is still one of the best Fannation has to offer.

August 1, 2008  07:23 AM ET

I think you make a great point Squirrel, and I completely agree that there are guys who aren't in who deserve to be in.

However, seniority alone can't be the only measure. There are guys who used to be active and play key roles but have become less active, and there are guys who are currently active and play key roles but didn't in the past.

I think that in both those scenarios, the user deserves a shot.

August 1, 2008  08:45 AM ET

Okay, here's my take on this as a guy who worked his way quickly up the ranks and now comes here today as a "newbie" HOF member...

When I evaluate ANYONE for Hall of Fame membership, it isn't the amount of time they've been on this site I look at, just as I don't take into account the color of his or her skin, his or her religious proclivities or sexual orientation or age or any other divisive artificial barrier...

I think that these past greats deserve recognition, certainly... but at the same time they have of their own free will made themselves less visible to other members. Absence CAN make the heart grow fonder... but only if it knows exactly what it is that is absent. Many people have never seen a word by these members -- though I personally have sought out writing by them all. They are good, yes, but there's a bunch of us that can pump out words in our best times more gracefully than Grantland Rice... and it is not the best of our times but our most subpar efforts and how we handle them which define our greatness...

Should these others be in the Hall of Fame? Certainly... but should others who are equally talented and are ensuring their place at the front of voters' minds due to greater current activity be denied a chance simply because they didn't discover this site sooner? Do you think I would've been here last summer had I known this existed? You bet your arse I would've... but I didn't find it until winter, and now by your definition I am not a duly-elected Hall of Famer but just another hack newbie rube that doesn't belong...

You have valid points but miss the real motive of any Hall of Fame... to find the members who best captivate the public with their talents, whether having been active one month or one year or more...

August 1, 2008  09:12 AM ET

I agree with you to a point, but Bigalke also makes a good point.

Anyway, I think this next ballot will be my 9th so I'm catching up to Ben.

August 1, 2008  09:42 AM ET

I think actually my bigger concern is that people's past accomplishments are overshadowed by the accomplishments of the active members today. That can be both good and bad and yes, every member in the HOF is extremely deserving, I'm looking more at the nominees...

Bigalke, I do agree with you that it shouldn't be the only factor in voting, but it does need to be considered in some way.

Hemo, I thought the 6 was a 9....whoops...

August 1, 2008  10:28 AM ET

Well I never get nominated, but being a "vet", I do agree that people like GOAT, Mac and Denis should be in as opposed to the Flavor of the Month.

August 1, 2008  10:31 AM ET

I also wanted to point out that I think that guy with the ton of profile views bulsh1tted them in some way. Either someone F5'ed the **** out of his profile or he signed out and did it himself.

August 1, 2008  10:56 AM ET

I definitely agree with Super Squirrel. There are a lot of great members here who deserve to be both nominated and inducted. For some reason I keep getting nominated, and honestly I don't want to. Not over those guys anyway.

August 1, 2008  11:46 AM ET

If their is no criteria for voting then people just vote for their friends and then clicks get formed and outsiders don't matter.

I know thery're are people that don't do TD's, like me, but I do things like blogs, comment of TDs and T&R, etc. I also do things within groups, like vote on new members, or play baseball pick-ems. I've seen some who have 10 thousand comments and 2 blogs, 1 TD, but they are still active. Some things that people do to be active aren't always visible to other members. If you don't have guidelines for entry into HOF, most will never get in.

August 1, 2008  12:29 PM ET

Danbash, someone could just use Opera, set it for auto-refresh, and leave it on for a week or two.

August 1, 2008  12:56 PM ET

We nominate too many TDers - why not let in someone like J. HOVA, dudeman, or Real Sports?

August 1, 2008  02:04 PM ET

Because J Hova's good, Dudeman's OK, and Real Sports plagiarizes.

August 1, 2008  05:08 PM ET

Amen, Dawgee Fresh. If I remember correctly, there is ONE BLOGGING HOFer! ONE! That's sad.

 
August 1, 2008  05:22 PM ET

Or KPKahder or Dan TM (!!!!!!!) or Mac...

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