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May 22, 2012, 11:32 AM

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What the Hell?

I was looking for 2 things at SF: Whatever.

Gilbert making a case for being #1 with the turmoil in the UFC, and Barnett making a case for the UFC title and/or Cormier showing what he can do moving forward.

Way to go Mike Kyle in showing Coker absolutely correct in blowing you off for a 205 title spot.

Gilbert next.

Let's see, since the Penn Era ended, we have gotten

Close disputed des (agree)
Solid win
Close disputed draw (thought Edgar won)
Solid win
Close disputed des (disagree)

In all that, GM has been rolling along, and with a Penn-ish performance vs an unranked fighter, he could easily be considered no1 at 155, push Dana even harder for UFC glory.

That didn't happen. Gilbert got hammered in the championship rounds and looked BAD late, spoiling the crowd. A "free Gilbert" or UFC chant might have said something to Showtime officials.

You know how most MMA talking heads talked on Aoki's fight in Bellator didn't mean much?

On MMAranking, guess who is ranked above Thompson?
Aoki

I did make a change in my 155 rankings.

I have Chandler as the best non-UFC Lightweight now, Eddie is better than anyone GM has fought lately.

Imagine Benson getting rolled for 10 minutes by - say Dan Luazon or Gleison Tibau, would you make a case for Bendo as top dog?

Speaking of disappointments, Barnett could have made a HECKUVA case for a title shot with a win + his winning streak + name. I didn't see any way for Cormier to win. Thought it was a HUGE jump in competition, and Barnett was better standing than anyone DC has seen, not to mention his Ju-Ju would help with the scramblefest any wrestling would cause.

I was wrong. Barnett looked like crud, and the guy who wanted a title shot will be lucky to be on FX on his premiere.

Barnett for some reason kept looking down after exchanging, and even with a broken hand, with a seven-inch reach advantage could have went with the Jones Elbow, witch he did once that I recall.

This is not to take anything away from DC, who did better than I thought on the ground, and didn't gas on the fight.

I would love to see Barnett vs Mir, but the loss cost me that matchup, so Barnett vs Nelson or even Kongo might be a good one. If Travis Browne keeps winning, that might be a good #2 on a FX card.

As for DC, what to do with this guy? Keep in mind, He might be 10-0, but he's almost as old as Barnett. Mike Russow (if he wins) would be a good contest.

Finally, It made sense that a backup won the Biggest Tourney Since Pride Died. The GOAT, one and done, the reigning champion, removed after a boring win, then a Another UFC champion went one and done, and now couldn't get a spot on the undercard at Bellator. The other UFC champion had the easy bracket, but looked bad in the finals, and has more questions than answers if he comes to the UFC.
The tourney ended with a whimper, not a whimper. One first round loser might be the highest ranked HWY right now, gaining that after beating ROY NELSON, of all people.

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May 22, 2012 11:45 AM ET

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Both Barnett AND Cormier looked like crap...having broken hands will do that....

Overeem was removed from the tourney because he refused to fight on SF's timetable, not for being boring....would have interfered with his cycling schedule....They wanted him to be ready to fight last September and his drugs wouldn't have cycled out until October....

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May 22, 2012 12:33 PM ET

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Originally posted 11:45 AM ET 05.22 by ---Loki---

Both Barnett AND Cormier looked like crap...having broken hands will do that....Overeem was removed from the tourney because he refused to fight on SF's timetable, not for being boring....would have interfered with his cycling schedule....They wanted him to be ready to fight last September and his drugs wouldn't have cycled out until October....

Overeem was pulled to give the UFC another top heavyweight. Dana didn't want him to lose without making some PPV coin on him.

That's the ONLY reason he was removed.

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May 23, 2012 05:28 AM ET

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Originally posted 11:49 AM ET 05.22 by JimJ77 Can't make it up

The only thing that kept him from finishing was probably the broken hand but to say he looked like crap is just idiotic. But that pretty much what I expect form you.

Ouch! :)

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May 23, 2012 07:19 AM ET

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Originally posted 11:49 AM ET 05.22 by JimJ77 Can't make it up

Cormier looked like crap? Did you watch the fight? He dominated Barnett in every facet of the fight. His striking was on point. His hands looked fast, his kicks were landing. His wrestling was outstanding. His high crotch takedown of Barnett was a thing of beauty. His top game was smothering, and his ground and pound was great. He cut Barnett up with elbows bigtime.The only thing that kept him from finishing was probably the broken hand but to say he looked like crap is just idiotic. But that pretty much what I expect form you.

I've seen Cormier be better....I see the difference between when he's healthy and when he's limited by a broken hand...in comparison, he looked like crap when fighting with a broken hand...considering how the fight was going, he should have finished at any of MANY opportunities. If you watched Penn go to decision after failing to capitalize on several obvious chances, in comparison to his peak showings, you'd say his performance looked like crap because you expect more from him...it's no different for Cormier...or any other fighter....

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May 23, 2012 10:25 AM ET

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Originally posted 07:19 AM ET 05.23 by ---Loki---

If you watched Penn go to decision after failing to capitalize on several obvious chances, in comparison to his peak showings, you'd say his performance looked like crap because you expect more from him...it's no different for Cormier...or any other fighter....

Penn failed to finish on some occasions because he wanted to hurt people and work his fustrations out.

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May 23, 2012 12:05 PM ET

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Originally posted 10:50 AM ET 05.23 by JimJ77 Can't make it up

Agreed. Diego Sanchez is a perfect example.

Against Jens Pulver as well (on their 2nd fight)

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May 23, 2012 01:13 PM ET

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Originally posted 12:27 PM ET 05.23 by JimJ77 Can't make it up

Thought he finished Jens with an RNC? I forget what round though.

He did.

He finished Diego as well though.

He is a master of the methodical finishes. He did this to Diego, KenFlo, and Sherk. Dominate throughout, and eventually the finish will present itself.

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May 24, 2012 08:16 AM ET

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Originally posted 12:27 PM ET 05.23 by JimJ77 Can't make it up

Thought he finished Jens with an RNC? I forget what round though.

He did, but he could have finished the fight much sooner (in the 1st round), as he had the mount, the back, and clearly wanted to punish Pulver some more instead of going straight away for the submission finish.