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It is amazing to me that there are still a bunch of guys who watch MMA a lot and they still have no clue what they are watching.

Big things that people should know. Like when a guy is kicking, if he is using his core and driving through with his kicks or just flicking his leg out there with his quads. Same with punches, is a guy just flicking his hand out there with his shoulder, or driving from his feet and turning his hips and shoulders into a punch.

Or when someone is in danger on the ground. If you want to know who is in control, it isn't hard to see: watch for underhooks, wrist control, hands trapped the mat, ect. Even just posture control is a concept that escapes a lot of MMA fans, even ones who have been watching MMA for a long time.

One that really bugs me now: front kicks.

People don't understand the difference in technique between a snapping front kick, ala Silva/Belfort and a push kick, like in 300 when he kicks the dude into the well.

Goldberg calls both a tepe, and fans don't get that you aren't going to KO someone with the push style. It is a distance measure, good for keeping guys away but it doesn't dig into the ribs or drive into the chin like a snappy front kick. Push style looks big, but it really doesn't do much damage.

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Originally posted 12:36 PM ET  07.22 by Frank Pentangeli

yea clouis... if someone hasnt been an mma champ they havent fought enough to understand how to throw a hard punch....

Huh?

I'm saying that people who watch MMA should be able to pick up on it. Especially with the color commentary of Rogan which is pretty good despite how much people complain about it.

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Originally posted 02:20 PM ET  07.22 by JimJ77 Best in the World!

Rogan knows his stuff he just comes across as biased with certain fighters.

Certain techniques in some situations too.

Like Renan's leg kicks last night. They weren't landing super clean other than a few of them, and Faber said that they didn't affect him much. But by the fourth round Rogan was convinced that he could barely walk.

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Originally posted 10:56 AM ET  07.22 by JimJ77 Best in the World!

I've taken a few BJJ,wrestling, and Kempo classes but with the kids being so small its tough to be committed to it. I will say I pretty much know what I'm doing. Things such as wrist control, sweeps, D'arce, Kimura, Americana, rear naked, guillotine, etc. I know how to take someone down with singles and doubles, how to shoot in, etc. I know how to throw jabs, hooks, straights, uppercuts, throw some kicks, etc.I'm not saying I'm Anderson Silva, I just have taken some classes at least and know what the hell I'm doing.

How'd the kempo work out for you? I just started taking no-gi judo and bjj after doing gi for awhile and was surprised at how different it is. Cool part of living in Colorado Springs is my gym is close to USA Judo and the Olympic training center and my judo teacher was an Olympian in 2008. The guy has ridiculous technique.

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Originally posted 09:25 PM ET  07.22 by JimJ77 Best in the World!

Hard as hell just like wrestling and BJJ.Jimmy Pedro actually lives the next town over from me. He had decent Judo.

I have a lot of respect for karate guys. Shotokan more than others, but there are still bad ass kempo guys out there.

My style of TKD has its roots in Shotokan. My instructor lineage and Machida's can actually be traced back to the same instructor, Grand Master Funakoshi.


Isn't Jimmy Pedro a multiple time Olympic medalist? Or maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

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Originally posted 01:13 AM ET  07.23 by JimJ77 Best in the World!

He is, I was being slightly sarcastic. Who did Rick Hawn train Judo under?

Ah ha, that is where I knew that name from.

I knew somehow the name Jimmy Pedro and Olympic medalist were linked together in my brain for some reason.

I must have read something about Hawn that mentioned him at some point.

I know Hyped has been doing BJJ for quite a few years. Hopefully he'll join the thread and give some specifics.

I trained some Kung Fu when I was a kid and teen. I don't know the lineage of my instructors though since it was actually a Taekwondo dojang that I went to and the Chinese Kung Fu guys were basically just guest instructors that came in on the Mon and Wed nights when I went.
Apparently the head Taekwondo guy there was/is very reputable though (Tae Eun Lee, Ottawa, Canada)
But eventually I ended up dropping out of Kung Fu because it conflicted with my hockey schedule. I liked scrapping in hockey here and there but I was way too small to be racking up many 5 minute penalties. Practising it was great for balance though.
I got back into Kung Fu for a while in Minneapolis in my 20s, but it was never consistent enough as I travelled a ton with my job (and it also kinda bugged me that the instructors were all white instead of Chinese except for this one Vietnamese guy, Hai Nguyen, who was close enough. But that's typical Minnesota. You even get white waiters at the Chinese restaurants. Some things just aren't meant to be.)
For the past 7 months, I been doing Krav up at Camp Pendleton since our company has a contract with them. Not much application to MMA in Krav compared to most other martial arts since there's a lot of going after the eyes, throat, nutsack, or using random objects as weapons, etc., but I'm liking it so far. It's an interesting contrast with the more formal stuff I'd been familiar with.

^ I left a typo in there for Dj to correct just in case he shows up. (Well, there are probably a few typos in there but there's just one that was intentionally left behind for Dj to ticket)