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show jon the $$$ !!!,........jon would want total control [goodbye/gm?],....he'd want more than $2-mill./yr.[most likely what allen gets?]......More like = $7-mill./yr...?,.......will al's kid pay that much [all-guaranteed/$$].......I DOUBT IT !

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Originally posted 07:18 PM ET  12.05 by Stormy Rottman

The Raiders are going to have cap problems next year as well. There is no QB. There are guys who are borderline practice squad signees in the starting lineup. I doubt Gruden would want take on the on-the-field mess.The Raiders are next to the last in the league in income (I think) and don't have the millions Gruden will ask for anyway, even if they were able to engineer a move to LA. I think its all just a bunch of smoke Gruden's agents/handlers are blowing so Gruden can get whatever he's really looking for. (NFL job, College job, a Big ol' raise from ESPN)

All true but a move to L.A. could come with financial incentives that would put the team in the black (pardon the pun).

There is boatloads of money to be made in that huge market that is now completing the 18th Season with no NFL.
The Rose Bowl deal changes everything.

And don't forget John likes older quarterbacks (maybe he thinks he could get CP to perform) and could see potential in Pryor.

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Originally posted 07:22 PM ET  12.05 by {+}MOTHER-MARGE{+}

show jon the $$$ !!!,........jon would want total control [goodbye/gm?],....he'd want more than $2-mill./yr.[most likely what allen gets?]......More like = $7-mill./yr...?,.......will al's kid pay that much [all-guaranteed/$$].......I DOUBT IT !

A move to L.A. as I said could bring the team income it would never get in Oakland.

Rose Bowl could sell 65,000 to 90,000 plus tickets a game, that would pay a lot of bills.

I'd be shocked if the Rose Bowl does not have a NFL team in 2013, or 2014.

i hope whereever the raiders end-up...........they get rid of the ~halloween~ freaks !,.......those darth-vaders and pirates must be going on 65 now !

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Originally posted 07:39 PM ET  12.05 by {+}MOTHER-MARGE{+}

i hope whereever the raiders end-up...........they get rid of the ~halloween~ freaks !,.......those darth-vaders and pirates must be going on 65 now !

But that would kill the sales of silver & black face paint, not to mention plastic skulls and aluminum foil and cardboard shoulder pads.

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Originally posted 07:48 PM ET  12.05 by Hammered_in_Soup

But that would kill the sales of silver & black face paint, not to mention plastic skulls and aluminum foil and cardboard shoulder pads.

if we dressed like that up here in [patriot-land/gillette] the cops would be dragging/beating me up and throwing me in the basement-jail !

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Originally posted 07:26 PM ET  12.05 by Hammered_in_Soup

And don't forget John likes older quarterbacks (maybe he thinks he could get CP to perform) and could see potential in Pryor.

Maybe he could talk Brett Favre out of retirement.

Raiders respond to rumors:


By Jerry McDonald - NFL Writer
Wednesday, December 5th, 2012 at 5:04 pm in Oakland Raiders.

An e-mail from Raiders director media relations Zak Gilbert on the "rumor" that Jon Gruden could be rejoining the Raiders . . .

Members of the media: There are two people on this planet that have the ability to make talks happen between Jon Gruden and the Raiders, with regard to him allegedly taking over the football operations, and/or the position of head coach. Each of those individuals, owner Mark Davis and general manager Reggie McKenzie, wanted me to communicate that this rumor has no validity whatsoever. And for the record, I'm personally disgusted that Hub Arkush would spread such an untruth on the day our head coach, Dennis Allen, had to determine with his mom, his brother and sister, whether to take his dad off life support or wait and hope that he would regain consciousness. Dennis didn???t have an opportunity to say goodbye to his dad, but he did have an opportunity to take a phone call regarding Hub's story.

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Originally posted 07:18 PM ET  12.05 by Stormy Rottman

I think its all just a bunch of smoke Gruden's agents/handlers are blowing so Gruden can get whatever he's really looking for. (NFL job, College job, a Big ol' raise from ESPN)

Gruden could have quashed the rumors but didn't. So he must have been keeping quiet for other reasons

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Originally posted 09:37 PM ET  12.05 by LoveItHateIt

Gruden could have quashed the rumors but didn't. So he must have been keeping quiet for other reasons

!....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$....!

Gruden has no interest in coaching the Raiders.

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Originally posted 07:31 PM ET  12.05 by Hammered_in_Soup

I'd be shocked if the Rose Bowl does not have a NFL team in 2013, or 2014.

Depends on who is responsible for the new stadium...

If its AEG, then all bets are off.

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Originally posted 07:28 PM ET  12.06 by Stormy Rottman

Eh. The NFL is not MLB. There's no massive TV deal at the end of the rainbow. There would be HUGE startup costs and the new stadium won't be built for 5 years or so. They couldn't fill the Rose Bowl back in the 90's, and with the product on the field the Raiders have now, they wouldn't fill it now. Tickets don't make you much money when people don't buy them.

The Raiders did play in the coliseum not the RB, went to quite a few games in the 1980's. Horrible place to see a game, was built for the 1932 Olympics. They remodeled a little in the early 90's but it was just lipstick on a pig.

When L.A. gets another team they stand to sell quite a bit of junk.

However the Raiders with their gangster image probably would do poorly in the very important money making of selling hats, jersey's etc.. The Halloween costumes in the stands has not helped their image and frankly lot's of people would never become a fan for that reason alone.

Actually if Gruden went to the Chargers and they moved to L.A. they would likely create a huge fanbase. Add the Chargers have tried to get a new stadium deal for about a decade now with no hope in site, so they could make that move.

I see the Rose Bowl hosting a NFL team next year or 2014, just who will it be?

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Originally posted 07:49 PM ET  12.06 by Hammered_in_Soup

The Raiders did play in the coliseum not the RB, went to quite a few games in the 1980's. Horrible place to see a game, was built for the 1932 Olympics. They remodeled a little in the early 90's but it was just lipstick on a pig.When L.A. gets another team they stand to sell quite a bit of junk.However the Raiders with their gangster image probably would do poorly in the very important money making of selling hats, jersey's etc.. The Halloween costumes in the stands has not helped their image and frankly lot's of people would never become a fan for that reason alone. Actually if Gruden went to the Chargers and they moved to L.A. they would likely create a huge fanbase. Add the Chargers have tried to get a new stadium deal for about a decade now with no hope in site, so they could make that move. I see the Rose Bowl hosting a NFL team next year or 2014, just who will it be?

LA fans seem more interested in NBA basketball than NFL football.

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Originally posted 08:00 PM ET  12.06 by Tark_Jr

LA fans seem more interested in NBA basketball than NFL football.

Of course they are because they've been spoiled by the success of the Lakers.

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Originally posted 11:29 AM ET  12.06 by drip drop

Gruden has no interest in coaching the Raiders.

You couldn't possibly know that unless you were Gruden yourself.

*waves to Chuckie Doll*