NFL  > Detroit Lions  > Was Stafford worth being a #1 Pick?
December 23, 2012, 03:14 AM
Amassing yards but a poor record (and most everything else) to show for it, was it worth all the money?

Most #1 Picks (except the Manning Bros and although Luck is a clear winner, his personal stats are actually pretty awful) have panned out bad (Stafford, Bradford, Alex Smith).

Perhaps think about a real QB of the future for the Lions?
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December 23, 2012  06:14 AM ET

I can see someone's been drinking the media's koolaid.

Look no further than how the Detroit Lions came to acquire Matthew Stafford in the first place. They "earned" the rights to draft Stafford #1 overall in the 2009 NFL Draft by going an unprecedented 0-16 in the 2008 season.

Do you know how many holes a team needs to have on its roster to finish a season 0-16? Do you realize how large of a rebuilding project it is to turn around a team that bad? Are you completely numb to the history of the Detroit Lions? Have you not witnessed the absolute lack of control that Lions head coach Jim Schwartz has over his team?

Blaming a single player for not being able to fix the Detroit Lions - one of the biggest punching lines in the NFL for nearly the entire Super Bowl era - is one of the most ridiculous, ignorant and irresponsible claims that you could make.

It takes a lot more than one player to turn around an organization that bad.

December 23, 2012  10:16 AM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I can see someone's been drinking the media's koolaid.Look no further than how the Detroit Lions came to acquire Matthew Stafford in the first place. They "earned" the rights to draft Stafford #1 overall in the 2009 NFL Draft by going an unprecedented 0-16 in the 2008 season.Do you know how many holes a team needs to have on its roster to finish a season 0-16? Do you realize how large of a rebuilding project it is to turn around a team that bad? Are you completely numb to the history of the Detroit Lions? Have you not witnessed the absolute lack of control that Lions head coach Jim Schwartz has over his team?Blaming a single player for not being able to fix the Detroit Lions - one of the biggest punching lines in the NFL for nearly the entire Super Bowl era - is one of the most ridiculous, ignorant and irresponsible claims that you could make.It takes a lot more than one player to turn around an organization that bad.

Well said, Un!

"Rome wasn't built in a day", as the old saying goes.

December 23, 2012  10:23 AM ET
QUOTE:

Amassing yards but a poor record (and most everything else) to show for it, was it worth all the money?Most #1 Picks (except the Manning Bros and although Luck is a clear winner, his personal stats are actually pretty awful) have panned out bad (Stafford, Bradford, Alex Smith).Perhaps think about a real QB of the future for the Lions?

Alex Smith might be available.

December 23, 2012  11:32 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

I can see someone's been drinking the media's koolaid.Look no further than how the Detroit Lions came to acquire Matthew Stafford in the first place. They "earned" the rights to draft Stafford #1 overall in the 2009 NFL Draft by going an unprecedented 0-16 in the 2008 season.Do you know how many holes a team needs to have on its roster to finish a season 0-16? Do you realize how large of a rebuilding project it is to turn around a team that bad? Are you completely numb to the history of the Detroit Lions? Have you not witnessed the absolute lack of control that Lions head coach Jim Schwartz has over his team?Blaming a single player for not being able to fix the Detroit Lions - one of the biggest punching lines in the NFL for nearly the entire Super Bowl era - is one of the most ridiculous, ignorant and irresponsible claims that you could make.It takes a lot more than one player to turn around an organization that bad.

Kinda like Luck for Indy, Manning for Denver havent done so, huh?

When you draft a #1 Pick, its because you expect him to win. Period.

Brady did it with a no-name cast. Russell Wilson is, etc.

Bottom Line: #1 Draft pick, even in individual performance, is getting outplayed by a 199th pick, a 3rd rounder, a #10 pick, etc.

Not sure he was worth the 'record' money contract

December 23, 2012  11:35 PM ET

Stafford is not the problem on the Lions. That said, I'd sure like to see them give Moore a few snaps.

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December 24, 2012  12:00 AM ET
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Kinda like Luck for Indy, Manning for Denver havent done so, huh?When you draft a #1 Pick, its because you expect him to win. Period. Brady did it with a no-name cast. Russell Wilson is, etc.Bottom Line: #1 Draft pick, even in individual performance, is getting outplayed by a 199th pick, a 3rd rounder, a #10 pick, etc.Not sure he was worth the 'record' money contract

I know you think you're explaining yourself, but you're really not.

December 24, 2012  12:06 AM ET
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Kinda like Luck for Indy, Manning for Denver havent done so, huh?When you draft a #1 Pick, its because you expect him to win. Period. Brady did it with a no-name cast. Russell Wilson is, etc.Bottom Line: #1 Draft pick, even in individual performance, is getting outplayed by a 199th pick, a 3rd rounder, a #10 pick, etc.Not sure he was worth the 'record' money contract

No comparison. Indy and Denver weren't even close to the likes of Detroit. Indy basically sucked for Luck and Denver made the playoffs last year. Those teams weren't anywhere near the dire straits Detroit was in when they drafted Stafford.

Nice try though.

December 24, 2012  12:29 PM ET
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No comparison. Indy and Denver weren't even close to the likes of Detroit. Indy basically sucked for Luck and Denver made the playoffs last year. Those teams weren't anywhere near the dire straits Detroit was in when they drafted Stafford. Nice try though.

Thanks. And I assume dire straits isnt 4-10 or 4-11 like Detroit is now?

Its alright, though: Of all the #1 Draft picks, only the Manning Bros amounted to anything.

So, Stafford has good company with Bradford, Smith, Vick and the rest of the former #1's.

December 24, 2012  12:30 PM ET
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I know you think you're explaining yourself, but you're really not.

Well, I won't even bother explaining another #1 Pick scenario with your back up QB in Philly.

*Shrug*

December 24, 2012  12:43 PM ET

One of Detroit's problems is no running game. They drafted Jahvid Best and he had concussion problems at Cal and they just got worse in the NFL (hope he never plays again for his own good) and that was not a Matt Millen pick.
BTW Calvin Johnson was a Matt Millen pick.

This franchise has a history of high draft choices not working out, Stafford I think is an exception, he is good just needs a running game.

May 14, 2013  09:49 PM ET

Look at the other top picks in the 2009 draft and you have to think that Stafford was worthy of the #1 in what was a pretty weak draft at the top. Jason Smith was a bust at #2 and is on to his 3rd team. Tyson Jackson, #3 has 5 career sacks. Aaron Curry, #4 is on to his 3rd team. Sanchez, no words needed. Darius Heyward-Bey. It was a bad draft year. BJ Raji is the only one in the top ten that it could really be argued has more value than Stafford, but when drafting there is always a premium on QB, especially when a banged up Jon Kitna is your starter.

Stafford ultimately does need to win some more games to justify his number 1 pick, but he isn't a complete bust. He is still super young, younger than Kaepernick and Andy Dalton, the same age as Russell Wilson, Ryan Tannehill, and Christian Ponder. He's only a year older than Luck.

It may not be fair to compare one year's top pick to another year's top pick. Obviously if Stafford was up against Luck and RG3, he probably wouldn't be the top pick, but when he is up against Sanchez, Jason Smith, Tyson Jackson, and Josh Freeman, it is hard to argue against Stafford in hindsight. Sure, BJ Raji and Clay Matthews were a total cleanup by Greenbay in that draft, and there were some other great picks to be found, but when you have Dan Orlovsky running out of the back of the endzone to secure a 2 point loss, you have to think about QB a little bit.

May 14, 2013  11:38 PM ET
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One of Detroit's problems is no running game. They drafted Jahvid Best and he had concussion problems at Cal and they just got worse in the NFL (hope he never plays again for his own good) and that was not a Matt Millen pick.BTW Calvin Johnson was a Matt Millen pick.This franchise has a history of high draft choices not working out, Stafford I think is an exception, he is good just needs a running game.

Stafford has a bad habit of forcing passes into coverage.

May 15, 2013  08:17 PM ET
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Well, I won't even bother explaining another #1 Pick scenario with your back up QB in Philly.*Shrug*

I'm not really sure what that was supposed to mean either. But as you can tell by the amount of time that has passed... I didn't really give a damn.

XD

May 15, 2013  08:43 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

Of all the #1 Draft picks, only the Manning Bros amounted to anything.

Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman, their 9 Super Bowls rings and 3 HOF rings might disagree.

May 15, 2013  08:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Bradshaw, Elway, Aikman, their 9 Super Bowls rings and 3 HOF rings might disagree.

LOL

September 5, 2013  07:40 PM ET

You do realize what happened last year to him right? Lets start with this. No running game our first stringer Lashoure did not have a run over 13yrds. Stafford ran for his life all year. Titus young was a cancer who lined up wherever he felt like it so it messed up the plays. Lost 5 recievers last year & he still put up just short of 5,000 yrds not to mention the lions lead the league in droped passes. defenses just pined their ears back & rushed the QB they did not have to worry about the running game. We lost almost all the games by less then 1 score. The defense could not stop anyone along with all the stupid penalties. Yea lets blame the one guy who was a total team guy & was giving his best even though he had a very bad hurt hip all year.

September 6, 2013  10:17 AM ET

Yes he was worth it.

Look aound the league ... there are roughly 10 QBs who can lead their teams to a Super Bowl ... the rest of the QBs are failry lackluster.

NFL teams draft a lot of QBs hoping to find a good one every few years. When a really talented one like Staford comes along you have to draft him.

 
September 6, 2013  10:22 AM ET
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Thanks. And I assume dire straits isnt 4-10 or 4-11 like Detroit is now?Its alright, though: Of all the #1 Draft picks, only the Manning Bros amounted to anything.So, Stafford has good company with Bradford, Smith, Vick and the rest of the former #1's.

Being this was posted Christmas Eve, never saw it, but how do you make that statement being in Dallas???? Holy sh&t man!!!

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