There is holding on almost every down in the NFL but the officials usually call the most obvious ones. The officials kept the penalty flags in their pockets and let the teams play ball and that is what most fans appreciate.
I didn't notice any holding on that play. There is holding on almost every down in the NFL but the officials will usually call the ones where it is most obvious. I think the officials did a good job of keeping the penalty flags in their pockets and just letting the teams play ball.
Was it holding by the Ravens or just a lack of any real attempt to block the punt by the 49ers.
Not going full out to block that punt was another bad coaching decision by Jim H.
Brilliant coaching. A holding call in the end zone is a safety also. Never seen that strategy employed before... (and so perfectly).
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I didn't notice any holding on that play.
Really? It was well planned and rather obvious.
Knowing the rules helps. Holding in the end zone (when called) results in a safety.
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I didn't notice any holding on that play. . . .
Hold? WHAT hold? Hahahaha.
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Really? It was well planned and rather obvious.
If it was so obvious the officials would have called it.
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Hold? WHAT hold? Hahahaha.
Now that you replayed it I can see where it could have been interpreted as holding.
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If it was so obvious the officials would have called it.
It didn't matter. Holding in endzone = safety
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It was a stroke of genius by the Ravens coaching staff for coaching their players to hold the 49ers' rush at the end of the game. It would not have changed the outcome of the game if the holding penatly would have been called. . . . It was a win-win scenario for the Ravens. Unethical, maybe, but I think its in the gray area. Can't fault the Ravens for a great strategy at the end of the game.
It was a great strategy. And impressive of John Harbaugh to think of that in the heat of the moment.
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It was a great strategy. And impressive of John Harbaugh to think of that in the heat of the moment.
Agreed. Great coaches take advantage of anything in the rules they can to help their team win. When I saw it live, I couldn't figure out why they couldn't get to the punter for 7 seconds, but on the replay I (and everyone except maybe Tark) saw the entire line holding. Brilliant!
Great strategy.
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It didn't matter. Holding in endzone = safety
Good point.
Besides the obvious hold by No. 84 TE Ed Dickson, there was an all out take down tackle of 49ers No. 27 C.J. Spillman. Funny thing is the outcome of the game doesn't change if it's called or not. Same result, same time runs off clock. The importance is just the lack of credibility of officials. How do you not call holding when it's so blatant and intentional? Just reflects on the refs . . . not the outcome of the game.
The NFL should be embarrassed, and the refs who blew it should be reprimanded/demoted at least, and canned at most. There's really no excuse or explanation for it - hard to say "We missed it" with any credibility.
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Besides the obvious hold by No. 84 TE Ed Dickson, there was an all out take down tackle of 49ers No. 27 C.J. Spillman. Funny thing is the outcome of the game doesn't change if it's called or not. Same result, same time runs off clock. The importance is just the lack of credibility of officials. How do you not call holding when it's so blatant and intentional? Just reflects on the refs . . . not the outcome of the game. The NFL should be embarrassed, and the refs who blew it should be reprimanded/demoted at least, and canned at most. There's really no excuse or explanation for it - hard to say "We missed it" with any credibility.
I think the NFL needs to adapt a rule that the Arena League uses: During the final 2 minutes of the game if the offense does not advance the ball past the line of scrimmage the clock is stopped after the play ends. This would eliminate the kneel down and force the offense to play out the game. In a close game it would still provide hope for the losing team that a turnover could occur.
Unethical, maybe, but I think its in the gray area
Nothing unethical about it. Just smart coaching.
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I think the NFL needs to adapt a rule that the Arena League uses: During the final 2 minutes of the game if the offense does not advance the ball past the line of scrimmage the clock is stopped after the play ends. This would eliminate the kneel down and force the offense to play out the game. In a close game it would still provide hope for the losing team that a turnover could occur.
I really like that idea.
I'm sure the NFL would get some resistance from the NFLPA due to player safety concerns, but it would certainly make for a more exciting game.
Although I don't really see why the NFL needs to change the rule to prevent the Ravens 8-second intentional safety from reoccurring.
If it's the final 12 seconds of the game, you're losing, and your opponent has the ball, I don't see any reason why the rules should bend over backwards to let you back in the game. You should have done more in the first 59:48 of the game.
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Besides the obvious hold by No. 84 TE Ed Dickson, there was an all out take down tackle of 49ers No. 27 C.J. Spillman. Funny thing is the outcome of the game doesn't change if it's called or not. Same result, same time runs off clock. The importance is just the lack of credibility of officials. How do you not call holding when it's so blatant and intentional? Just reflects on the refs . . . not the outcome of the game. The NFL should be embarrassed, and the refs who blew it should be reprimanded/demoted at least, and canned at most. There's really no excuse or explanation for it - hard to say "We missed it" with any credibility.
There were some no calls but I doubt that they affected the outcome of the game. I still will take these officials over those scabs that officiated earlier in the season.
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Although I don't really see why the NFL needs to change the rule to prevent the Ravens 8-second intentional safety from reoccurring.If it's the final 12 seconds of the game, you're losing, and your opponent has the ball, I don't see any reason why the rules should bend over backwards to let you back in the game. You should have done more in the first 59:48 of the game.
In agree with this.
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