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April 24, 2013, 07:49 PM
In the past 14 years, the Cowboys have had 86 draft picks and only 9 have been to a pro bowl. This does not surprise me.
April 24, 2013  08:44 PM ET

But if you're going to rip on them for that - ok, but then how many probowl players have they gotten via trades with other teams or picked up through FA? I remember in 2009 the 'Boys had 9 or 10 men head to the probowl.

April 24, 2013  08:53 PM ET

It's easy to open your wallet and pluck away good players, but even though they have done so, it hasn't amounted to much. One playoff win!! ONE!! Obviously he has not brought in the right coaches and I definitely feel like Carrot is not going to do any better than all the coaches he has brought in since Jimmy.

April 24, 2013  09:20 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

It's easy to open your wallet and pluck away good players, but even though they have done so, it hasn't amounted to much. One playoff win!! ONE!! Obviously he has not brought in the right coaches and I definitely feel like Carrot is not going to do any better than all the coaches he has brought in since Jimmy.

Jerry changes HC's alot,and it didn't help,how many years does it take for fans too come too the conclussion,that somethings fked up?

April 25, 2013  07:14 AM ET
QUOTE(#3):

Jerry changes HC's alot,and it didn't help,how many years does it take for fans too come too the conclussion,that somethings fked up?

Well EZ, there are those that are realists and those that live life looking thru rose colored glasses. I really wish I could find something to be excited about with this team, but right now, I see the same results as the past 2 seasons..mediocre. Maybe things will change. I hope so, but I'm not looking for something that is just not there.

April 25, 2013  11:15 AM ET
QUOTE:

In the past 14 years, the Cowboys have had 86 draft picks and only 9 have been to a pro bowl. This does not surprise me.

Wow...but not surprising. ;)

April 25, 2013  12:34 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Wow...but not surprising. ;)

Howdy Sweets!!! ;)

April 25, 2013  12:52 PM ET

There's a few reasons Jerry has two playoff wins since 1996.

1) Constant change. Like the Browns he changes HC's, OC's, DC's, and/or QB's every few years. The team is constantly hopping from one foot to the other to adapt. Nothing is constant.

2) Lack of chemistry. I had a Cowboys fan friend of mine tell me, "Jerry does a good job of getting 'individual' players. He puts men on the team with no regard to anything but talent. He's not worried how they'll adapt to the scheme or each other.

3) Jerry's stubbornness. He admitted last year that, if anyone else were the GM he'd have been fired by now - then turns around and says that for him to own the team and NOT be involved to the level to which he's involved has never entered his mind. He'd rather lose and get the blame than win and not get the credit.

4) Jerry's micromanagement. Jerry has admitted that HE'S the one that drafts the players. Not the coach who he's going to hold accountable for winning or losing - but him. It's what Bill Parcells said, "if you want me to cook dinner, let me go shopping for groceries".

5) Jerry's micromanagement part II - Jerry determines who's on the roster and who's not.

The HC is just a puppet. Jerry wants to put on a headset and coach so badly he can taste it but he realizes how stupid that would look - especially if he failed - so he hires people he can coach through. It's the reason the 'Boys will never land a big fish like Bill Cowher.

Jerry Jones took a struggling franchise back to the promised land in the early to mid 90's by hiring a coach and staying out of the way. He's taken them back to mediocrity through micromanagement and stubbornness. He's the Al Davis of the NFC.

April 25, 2013  12:56 PM ET

midnightangel is pretty accurate in this post. good summary of what has happened with this struggling team.

April 25, 2013  01:49 PM ET

Jerry Jones had Sean Payton on his staff and did not lock him up. He could have had Payton as head coach, with Jason Garrett as his offensive coordinator and then had Wade Phillips as his defensive coordinator.

April 25, 2013  02:36 PM ET

MidnightAngel - you are dead ballzzz on!!!

April 25, 2013  03:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

The HC is just a puppet. Jerry wants to put on a headset and coach so badly he can taste it but he realizes how stupid that would look - especially if he failed - so he hires people he can coach through.

Everything you wrote was correct except for this sentence, yes he does want to coach, the reason he does not is the NFL will not allow owners to coach. Same goes for MLB, NBA etc.

April 25, 2013  06:19 PM ET
QUOTE(#9):

Jerry Jones had Sean Payton on his staff and did not lock him up. He could have had Payton as head coach, with Jason Garrett as his offensive coordinator and then had Wade Phillips as his defensive coordinator.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda....

April 26, 2013  04:16 PM ET

And it appears that this year's draft won't be any different.

April 26, 2013  04:47 PM ET

The Cowboys got the man they wanted - the mistake was in taking him at least a round early.

April 26, 2013  05:54 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Well EZ, there are those that are realists and those that live life looking thru rose colored glasses. I really wish I could find something to be excited about with this team, but right now, I see the same results as the past 2 seasons..mediocre. Maybe things will change. I hope so, but I'm not looking for something that is just not there.

TH

In that? I think we're kindred spirits,as seeing quite a few posters on the Cincy boards crowing over our 1st pick. and i'm not that optomistic,even ifn it's called the BPA, so i'm hesitant as saying the Bengals will,yet again,make the playoffs.

April 26, 2013  06:52 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

The Cowboys got the man they wanted - the mistake was in taking him at least a round early.

Then that just speaks volumes about what kind of evaluators they have on the staff. As I posted on another thread many opinions read like this - 'too bad the Cowboys owner can't fire the general manager. With so many other pressing needs and talent at those positions still all over the boards, to take a third-round guy (not even the best center in this draft class!) is inexcusable.'

April 30, 2013  09:09 AM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Then that just speaks volumes about what kind of evaluators they have on the staff. As I posted on another thread many opinions read like this - 'too bad the Cowboys owner can't fire the general manager. With so many other pressing needs and talent at those positions still all over the boards, to take a third-round guy (not even the best center in this draft class!) is inexcusable.'

We can not be sure...Frederick was a Round 2 grade by many but #22 on their board.

In either case, they might have been trying to trade down and just could not find a partner. If they could not do that, then you stand pat and take the guy and hope you are right and he starts right away. If the guy is an 8-10 yr starter, then they they got their man.

After they snagged the TE, WR, Saftey and RB, everyone started coming around on their draft.

Dallas had a solid draft, not spectacular due to many seeing Round 1 as a reach.

The thing is, they filled major needs and while many feel the DL could stand to see an upgrade, they already have 4 DE's on the roster and 3 DT's...so it's not like they have a bunch of scraps when you are talking about a starting DL of Ware, Spencer, Ratliff and Hatcher.

And do not tell me that Sylvester Williams and or Eric Reid are going to be better than Frederick and Williams combined!

2 for 1 is always better even if both are average.

April 30, 2013  09:28 AM ET

Jeff, what history has shown us, when they do reach they typically fail. Quincy Carter anyone????

April 30, 2013  10:36 AM ET

What kind of evaluators you have on the staff is irrelevant when it's one man that decides who's going to be drafted. I'm quite sure Jerry gets advice from other sources, but if he doesn't feel like listening - he wont.

On, "A Football Life" Jimmy Johnson was talking about the trade for Tony Casillas, which he worked out with Jerry Glanville of the Falcons. "Ten minutes later Jerry Jones was on TV talking about how *he* arranged the trade. I asked him about it and he said, 'Jimmy, if I make a deal for 10 million dollars, no one cares. If I make a trade in the NFL, people care".

That's Jerry Jones.

He wants credit - for better or for worse. It can't stand the 'Boys having success and his name being left out of it.

Simply put, and this is the sad truth, he'd rather lose and get the blame than win and not get credit.

 
April 30, 2013  10:54 AM ET
QUOTE(#18):

Jeff, what history has shown us, when they do reach they typically fail. Quincy Carter anyone????

History is def not on our side and that is why people get in an uproar.

Garrett has done well in recent years, so that is my hope...

There is no doubt they will not hit on everyone but man I like the Center, WR, and RB we snagged and other "experts" are high on that FS.

We shall see.

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