NBA  > General NBA  > asifyouknow's off season questions: Wilt and Shaq on the same team who do you start?
July 8, 2013, 10:36 PM
AND WHY!

For me is a no brainer, Shaq is my starter Will is the backup.

Shaq is just a stronger man inside, totally unstoppable. If Wilt could play PF maybe I play him there.

What do you think?

Who would you start?
July 8, 2013  10:45 PM ET

The answer: Tim Tebow.

July 8, 2013  10:49 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

The answer: Tim Tebow.

good choice...

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July 10, 2013  01:10 PM ET

You obviously never watched Wilt play.

July 10, 2013  04:28 PM ET

Good Question. I would start Wilt. Shaq has slight edge defensively with his quickness and ability to help and recover in a time where the number of good athletes was much higher than during Wilt's time. Both a presence in the lane. Both had very good footwork, Shaq used it to power his way to basket 8 out of 10 shots. Wilt had a significant edge in touch and used a very soft fade-away a lot. Out to even 15ft. Shaq had some skills with short -mini hook shots, but he never had a true fade-away. So I don't believe Shaq was unstoppable. I would give Wilt slight edge on rebounding also, but again, physically he was so much more far and a way above the rest of league's players.

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July 10, 2013  09:05 PM ET
QUOTE(#8):

Looks like an asifyouknow dupe accountAll of your dupe accounts are from Ohio...come on and do better...lol

Why would I answer my own question ?

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July 11, 2013  03:18 PM ET

Flip a coin on who is the starter between Shaq and Wilt. But start Wilt simply because he's iconic to the game. He was the first really dominant center of the game.

Shaq, in his prime slimmed down at 325 would run the floor like a forward, end to end, dunk and break modern backboards. Games would have to be stopped.

Wilt was your childhood hero. We get it. Everything and anything big is better. The big player, the big shoes, the big 70s cadillac, the big house, the big dogs.

Just for comparison. Here's a summary of the head-to-head contest between Wilt and KAJ.

Regular Season

Chamberlain: 11.0 ppg, 16.0 rpg, 3.7 apg on 73.7 %FG/58.8 %FT/72.6 %TS
Abdul-Jabbar: 29.5 ppg, 17.8 rpg, 4.7 apg on 45.0 %FG/75.0 %FT/46.7 %TS

Overall

Chamberlain: 16.1 rpg, 18.2 rpg, 3.4 apg on 52.6 %FG/48.6 %FT/53.1 %TS
Abdul-Jabbar: 31.0 ppg, 16.4 rpg, 3.9 apg on 46.4 %FG/71.6 %FT/49.1 %TS

Their teams are 14-14 against each other when both men played.

Playoffs

Chamberlain: 15.9 ppg, 18.8 rpg, 2.7 apg on 47.8 %FG/43.7 %FT/48.3 %TS
Abdul-Jabbar: 29.7 ppg, 17.5 rpg, 4.5 apg on 46.6 %FG/69.4 %FT/49.1 %TS

July 11, 2013  03:34 PM ET

KAJ vs Wilt
10/24/69
WILT 25 pts, 25 rebs, 5 as, 3 blocks, 9-14 FG/FGA W
KAJ 23 pts, 20 rebs, 2 as, 2 blocks, 9-21 FG/FGA L
Fri 11/20/70
WILT 28 pts, 23 rebs, 3 as, 10 blocks, 7-20 FG/FGA ??? 6 blocks against Jabbar L
KAJ 29 pts, 13 rebs, 0 as, 2 blocks, 13-32 FG/FGA W
12/21/70
WILT 25 pts, 14 rebs, 3 as, 2 blocks, 11-23 FG/FGA L
KAJ 37 pts, 16 rebs, 0 as, 4 blocks, 17-33 FG/FGA W
02/05/71
WILT 14 pts, 14 rebs, 3 as, 6 blocks, 7-10 FG/FGA W
KAJ 27 pts, 10 rebs, 3 as, * blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA L
02/11/71
WILT 25 pts, 11 rebs, 1 as, * blocks, 10-19 FG/FGA L
KAJ 31 pts, 21 rebs, 0 as, * blocks, 13-30 FG/FGA ??? 2 blocks against Wilt W
03/03/71
WILT 24 pts, 13 rebs, 5 as, 8 blocks, 7-15 FG/FGA L
KAJ 15 pts, 6 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 7-21 FG/FGA W
04/09/71
WILT 22 pts, 20 rebs, 1 as, 8 blocks, 10-19 FG/FGA ??? 3 blocks against Jabbar L
KAJ 32 pts, 22 rebs, 1 as, 1 blocks, 14-30 FG/FGA W
04/11/71
WILT 26 pts, 22 rebs, 0 as, * blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA - Wilt blocked numerious shots L
KAJ 22 pts, 10 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 9-19 FG/FGA W
04/14/71
WILT 24 pts, 24 rebs, 3 as, 3 blocks, 9-19 FG/FGA W
KAJ 20 pts, 19 rebs, 6 as, 0 blocks, 8-16 FG/FGA L
Fri 04/16/71
WILT 15 pts, 16 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 7-14 FG/FGA L
KAJ 31 pts, 20 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 14-20 FG/FGA W
04/18/71
WILT 23 pts, 12 rebs, 4 as, 6 blocks, 10-21 FG/FGA ??? 5 blocks against Jabbar L
KAJ 20 pts, 15 rebs, 5 as, 3 blocks, 7-23 FG/FGA W
11/21/71
WILT 11 pts, 26 rebs, 6 as, 4 blocks, 4-9 FG/FGA W
KAJ 39 pts, 17 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 17-33 FG/FGA L
01/09/72
WILT 15 pts, 12 rebs, 2 as, 6 blocks, 7-11 FG/FGA L
KAJ 39 pts, 20 rebs, 5 as, 9 blocks, 18-34 FG/FGA W
02/04/72
WILT18 pts, 25 rebs, 3 as, * blocks, 8-14 FG/FGA W
KAJ 40 pts, 18 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 16-33 FG/FGA L
03/01/72
WILT 8 pts, 17 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 3-5 FG/FGA W
KAJ 33 pts, 12 rebs, 8 as, * blocks, 13-33 FG/FGA L
03/17/72
WILT 18 pts, 25 rebs, 5 as, * blocks, 7-15 FG/FGA W
KAJ 50 pts, 8 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 22-39 FG/FGA L
04/09/72
WILT 10 pts, 24 rebs, 0 as, * blocks, 3-12 FG/FGA L
KAJ 33 pts, 18 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 14-26 FG/FGA W
04/12/72
WILT 11 pts, 17 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 3-5 FG/FGA W
KAJ 40 pts, 7 rebs, 7 as, * blocks, 18-31 FG/FGA L
04/14/72
WILT 7 pts, 14 rebs, 4 as, 10 blocks, 1-3 FG/FGA ??? 6 blocks against Jabbar W
KAJ 33 pts, 21 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 15-37 FG/FGA L
04/16/72
WILT 5 pts, 11 rebs, 4 as, 3 blocks, 2-7 FG/FGA L
KAJ 31 pts, 18 rebs, 3 as, 7 blocks, 14-33 FG/FGA W
04/18/72
WILT 12 pts, 26 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 2-3 FG/FGA - 4 blocks against Jabbar W
KAJ 28 pts, 16 rebs, 3 as, * blocks, 13-33 FG/FGA L
04/22/72
WILT 20 pts, 24 rebs, 2 as, 9 blocks, 8-12 FG/FGA
KAJ 37 pts, 25 rebs, 8 as, * blocks, 16-37 FG/FGA L
11/14/72
WILT 16 pts, 15 rebs, 1 as, * blocks, 8-12 FG/FGA W
KAJ 37 pts, 16 rebs, 6 as, 7 blocks, 17-32 FG/FGA L
12/05/72
WILT 9 pts, 15 rebs, 7 as, * blocks, 4-4 FG/FGA W
KAJ 29 pts, 17 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 11-30 FG/FGA L
01/07/73
WILT 9 pts, 18 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 3-5 FG/FGA L
KAJ 37 pts, 12 rebs, 7 as, * blocks, 17-36 FG/FGA W
02/09/73
WILT 8 pts, 14 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 3-3 FG/FGA L
KAJ 29 pts, 24 rebs, 2 as, * blocks, 14-24 FG/FGA W
02/25/73
WILT 24 pts, 20 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 10-14 FG/FGA W
KAJ 21 pts, 21 rebs, 6 as, * blocks, 10-27 FG/FGA L
03/27/73
WILT 0 pts, 14 rebs, 4 as, * blocks, 0-0 FG/FGA L
KAJ 24 pts, 17 rebs, 1 as, * blocks, 12-31 FG/FGA W

July 11, 2013  03:37 PM ET

Faced against an 7'2" offensive force in KAJ, the 7'1" Wilt became more of a defensive center.

July 11, 2013  03:42 PM ET

It really would be interesting how Wilt and Shaq would compete against each other. Power vs Power.

Power (Wilt) vs. Finesse (KAJ), finesse was dominant offensively forcing Wilt to be more defensive minded and abandon his all-out plough method against inferior centers prior to KAJ.

July 11, 2013  03:48 PM ET

Career numbers prove KAJ was better than Wilt. Head-to-Head contest KAJ was better than Wilt. Wilt is not GOAT. Wilt would not overpower Shaq. In Shaq's prime, he was about 30 lbs heavier than Wilt and 60 lbs heavier than KAJ. Wilt overpower Shaq? No.

KAJ Career Numbers
38,387 Points / 17,440 Rebs / 5,660 Assists / 19 x All-Star / 6 x MVP / 6x Champ
Wilt Career Numbers
31,419 Points / 23,924 Rebs / 4,643 Assists / 13x All Star / 4x MVP / 2x Champion

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July 11, 2013  05:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

If you do not understand 4.3 speed...He is faster than every point guard in the game today.If Wilt and Shaq both jumped up...Wilt would be 22-25 inches higher than Shaq, with his wingspan and vertical, and do what he wanted.What part don't you understand

LOL.

Look at the hard facts above. If Wilt couldn't do it against a finesse center in KAJ, he couldn't do it against an even bigger man in Shaq. Make the connection. Make the mental jump and connect it. Man ............ please. You are weak.

You're supporting your argument with frivolus facts about "4.3 speed" and "500 lbs", and "22-25 vertical jump". You think Shaq would get out of Wilts way?

You were one of the kids in awe (wide eyed bulging: "wow he's so big") of Wilt during his time when men who were a table ruler taller than the average man was a rarity. The game was still new, the league was new, and Wilt was somewhat of a circus attraction like the 3ft midget who could do back flips. Wilt in an interview with Roy Firestone (look it up You tube) said when he was 6'11, a woman asked how tall he was and he said 6'11. The woman said, you must be 9ft tall. Wilt was mythical in those days. People were stunned by him. The media had Wilt measure his hand to the 6'3" Muhammed Ali, as if Wilt was an alien. Does that happen these days? No. Wilt was larger than life and was a great ballplayer, no doubt. Transport Shaq back in time and he would be the iconic center that Wilt is. Wilt could not do to KAJ what you say he would do to Shaq but you absolutely believe he would do it to Shaq. Man please.

July 11, 2013  05:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#16):

Maybe you did not get it the first time...This sounds like blasphemy, but Wilt would plain just over power Shaq...Shaq was not that much bigger, than Wilt, and Wilt's wingspan of 9"9'. But I would love to see it.Wilt could bench press over 500 pounds and his vertical was 18 inches higher that Shaq, and he had 4.3 speed, He would just run past Shaq and dunk on whoever was dumb enough to get in the game....My Childhood Idol was Dr. J

Ok Dr. J was your idol and hero. I'm wrong there. I'm guessing it was Wilt and I think people would understand why I would think that because you embelish Wilt's numbers to no end because you want to support that players these days are not that much better than athletes from back in the day (your time).

But you're wrong about Wilt overpowering Shaq physically. Why? There is proof written in the NBA's history books that Wilt couldn't overpower KAJ a less physical player than Shaq.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGRAE-y851M

 
July 11, 2013  05:28 PM ET
QUOTE(#17):

If you do not understand 4.3 speed...He is faster than every point guard in the game today.If Wilt and Shaq both jumped up...Wilt would be 22-25 inches higher than Shaq, with his wingspan and vertical, and do what he wanted.What part don't you understand

Your whole argument is based on SPECULATION. Initially it was "NUMBERS DON'T LIE". You've been proven wrong and you go back to, oh well, his vertical was this and he could bench this .... really, I saw it .... ....... man please. Stick to basketball and its history and what really happened and base you conclusions taking facts and history into account instead of plain drivel.

But, but, but .... he was so big.

LOL

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