MLB  > General MLB  > How to solve doping in the MLB
July 27, 2013, 12:27 PM
Just a thought. With the Ryan Braun and "A-Roid" stories taking center stage of sorts in MLB, I was thinking about a new offensive against future F'ups like these 2 idiots.

1. VOID ALL contracts and bonuses. Give the owner(s) the right to dump the fool, or renegotiate the contract under new penalties...such as a redefined pay scale.

2. Send the prick back to the minor league for 1 year, at minor league wages. ALL offenders must rehabilitate in the minors, at minors wages, for 1 full year. NO EXCEPTIONS. That means the bus chumps, and super 8 hotels too.

Any takers?
July 27, 2013  12:32 PM ET

This of course is with the enthusiastic approval of the union mafia known as the Players union and "The Collective." Just a play on words people. Tell the union it's in their best interest to look like a business in control vs. looking like a group of occasional druggies.

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July 27, 2013  12:50 PM ET
QUOTE(#2):

There's no testing in the minor leagues, so probably they'd love being sent back there.

I THINK you understand the OVERALL point I was trying to make.....

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July 27, 2013  02:37 PM ET
QUOTE(#4):

Sure. You want to have an alternate pay scale for offenders. Ok. So based off Melky Cabrera's $16 million/2-year deal just months after being suspended last year, I'd say the market is still pretty high even for players who've been busted. So unless you want to artificially hold their pay down somewhere below that (thereby putting a lot more money into the owners already well-lined with cash pockets) the market will still dictate that these guys get rewarded handsomely. Your #2 asks for a one year removal to the minor leagues. So you not only want to drop major leaguers (superior players) back to the minors and let them take roster spots from up and coming kids who may deserve it, but you also want to infest the minors with athletes who already have a ton of money and connections to PED suppliers, and put them with minor leaguers who can see firsthand how the cheating is done, how the cheaters got caught, and ultimately help figure out new ways to beat the tests. In short, your solution is backward, naive, and completely unworkable. But I bet it sounded good in your head.

Umm, what? WASN'T my point at all. Everything you stated is BS. WHY......lol, because it would be up to the individual clubs to assess the damages for the player(s) who OFFENDED the team and the owner(s). There would be no..."alternate pay scale for offenders" (???)

Roster spots in the minors being taken away from other players? You're ASSUMING EVERY minor league'r deserves a shot at the MAJORS, and thus the MLB caliber offender(s) are holding them back (???) WTH?

The IDEA is to put FEAR and the possibility of NEVER getting a fat paycheck in their minds. If you think a player is going to risk a 2nd offense by getting booted out of MLB for good is worth it......OR, getting sent down every time for a year at minimum wage isn't going to help....then they aren't worth the time to rehab, and should end up with the "death sentence."

It would work, but the UNION is the problem. NOT the idea(s) I or others suggest.

July 27, 2013  02:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#5):

Umm, what? WASN'T my point at all. Everything you stated is BS. WHY......lol, because it would be up to the individual clubs to assess the damages for the player(s) who OFFENDED the team and the owner(s). There would be no..."alternate pay scale for offenders" (???)Roster spots in the minors being taken away from other players? You're ASSUMING EVERY minor league'r deserves a shot at the MAJORS, and thus the MLB caliber offender(s) are holding them back (???) WTH? The IDEA is to put FEAR and the possibility of NEVER getting a fat paycheck in their minds. If you think a player is going to risk a 2nd offense by getting booted out of MLB for good is worth it......OR, getting sent down every time for a year at minimum wage isn't going to help....then they aren't worth the time to rehab, and should end up with the "death sentence."It would work, but the UNION is the problem. NOT the idea(s) I or others suggest.

I'm not sure you understood his point.

If you void the player's contract, they then become free agents. They can negotiate a contract with any team they want. As Melky Cabrera's contract demonstrates, the fact that a player tested positive doesn't seem to hurt his contractual bargaining power. So, unless you cap the salary a prior offender can get, voiding the contract may not mean much.

The minor league thing makes even less sense. Why take roster spots from minor-leaguers instead of just suspending players without pay?

July 27, 2013  02:50 PM ET

At a MINIMUM, every major league contract should have this in it....BASICALLY.

1. You get caught with PEDS, your contract and bonuses is void, and subject to reimbursement in FULL to the offended club pending the results of a hearing of evidence.

2. Sent to the minors for 1 year to rehab.

3. 2nd offense, 1 FULL year suspension, and a court of appeals process to EVER be allowed to play MLB again.

July 27, 2013  02:58 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

At a MINIMUM, every major league contract should have this in it....BASICALLY.1. You get caught with PEDS, your contract and bonuses is void, and subject to reimbursement in FULL to the offended club pending the results of a hearing of evidence.2. Sent to the minors for 1 year to rehab.3. 2nd offense, 1 FULL year suspension, and a court of appeals process to EVER be allowed to play MLB again.

Your first point removes any disincentive for teams to sign known or suspected juicers. If the team knows they get out of a contract if a juicer gets caught, why not sign him?

July 29, 2013  06:05 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

At a MINIMUM, every major league contract should have this in it....BASICALLY.1. You get caught with PEDS, your contract and bonuses is void, and subject to reimbursement in FULL to the offended club pending the results of a hearing of evidence.2. Sent to the minors for 1 year to rehab.3. 2nd offense, 1 FULL year suspension, and a court of appeals process to EVER be allowed to play MLB again.

Dude, you are getting TORCHED.

July 29, 2013  06:17 PM ET

Ok....serious comment here.

Let's ask ourselves a few questions: Who is aggrieved by a baseball player using PEDs? The owners? No, they get more production for their buck. The fans? Hell no. Most dumb-**** fans scream for more home runs, more hits, more action, cuz the game is too boring.

Anyway, the only people aggrieved are the players that DON'T use. Either cuz 'roids weren't around 30 years ago when they played, or the current players choose to follow the rules....but only cuz they are the rules.

The only people that are actually HURT by the use of PEDs are...the users. But that's the result of their own choice, so who cares.

So how about this as a starting point for a solution....

Remove the rules regarding PEDs. If a player wants to use them, let them use them.

Oh, wait. The players that use PEDs don't get to qualify for any statistical race or record. They can't get Gold Glove Awards, no All Star Ballot for them, no Home Run Records, and no Hall of Fame.

Two different kinds of players. The PED using entertainers, and non-ped using athletes.

Fans win, cuz they get wild achievements. Owners win cuz they can field winning, entertaining teams. Players win, cuz they can choose to be freak-show entertainers or admired for their skill and integrity.

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July 31, 2013  02:19 AM ET

There is a major point that I have not seen mentioned anywhere.
If a team wanted to get out from under a huge contract with an underperforming player, the team could potentially set the player up by having someone place some "juice" into the player's food or drink. Yeah, sounds far-fetched, but when we are talking about what will soon be $300 million contracts, anything is possible. I'm guessing this has already happened in the Olympics. Even an angry ex-wife could do something like this.

 
February 28, 2014  01:37 AM ET

Have MLB do what boxing does. Give each player a drug test after each game. If the player pops positive he is fined whatever salary he would have earned for that particular game completed. I know, that's a lot of drug tests for each team but I think it's worth it.

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