NFL  > General NFL  > What was Saban thinking....?
December 1, 2013, 10:58 AM
Sorry for bringing NCAAF into the NFL thread section but I know most everyone here and don't want the opinion of a bunch of unknown to me Rabid Alabama/Auburn fans who are blinded by emotion.

My son and I were watching the game and seeing the last "second" unfold and wondering what Saban was doing. His Kicker is marginal yesterday at best (Saban had the gall to say he was kicking 60 yarders in warm-ups), missing two we saw and I think getting a pass on the blocked one? Blocked b/c it was low....how low does a kick need to be for a 57 yard attempt. With one second left we thought "no way he kicks" he must be going for the hail mary and then will regroup for the overtime.

Nope he sends the kicking team?! WTF? So the kick is well at the margin of the guys range (but in his defense based on the pressure and distance it was better than the other ones we saw--nice try) and Auburn puts a guy under the goal posts to try and run it back. My son--smart as ever-- says he better put a LB or a couple of DBs on the field for a run back....

Well off sails the kick, falls short and Davis takes off. He's making pretty good progress and at this point my son and I start to laugh. Go back and watch it again and you'll see lots of "number 70s" taking bad angles, lumbering towards where Davis USED TO BE and the hopes of a national championship for Alabama trailing behind Davis like a cloud of fluorescent rainbow colored pixie dust!!! I assume there are some better faster athletes than the ones I saw chasing aimlessly behind Davis but I missed them. IF you had better luck at seeing defensive players on the field for that play let me know.

Does anyone else think this was the worst decision of the year by a college coach (at least in a pretty high stakes game)? When Auburn scored we discussed a 2 pt conversion to end it and were OK with that level of balls.
December 1, 2013  11:23 AM ET

Auburn deserved the win.

December 1, 2013  11:44 AM ET

lol,....he was thinkin = ~over-time~....!?

December 1, 2013  01:08 PM ET

December 1, 2013  01:20 PM ET

Cade Foster missed three field goals earlier in the game:

44-yard attempt wide left
33-yard attempt wide left
44-yard attempt blocked

So Alabama brings out back-up kicker Adam Griffith, a redshirt freshman, with a career kicking record of 1-for-2. The kid's career long (and only FG made) was a 20-yarder.

Wheeling that kid out to attempt a 57-yarder was just plain crazy. Especially considering their last field goal attempt was blocked.

My guess is Nick Saban didn't like his chances in overtime - considering their field goal woes - so he wanted to take one last attempt at avoiding OT.

December 1, 2013  01:22 PM ET
QUOTE(#1):

Auburn deserved the win.

Nick Saban was out-coached IMO. And the Crimson Tide defenders were out-muscled at the LOS in the running game, which is even more rare.

December 1, 2013  02:56 PM ET

did anyone else think watching the run back on the missed FG that #27 of Auburn was going to get his legs tangled with Davis??? I was watching this live saying "get away from him!!!!" because remember in college if you fall down on your own, the play is over. You see it all the time on returned punts/kickoffs/interceptions/fumbles where the guy who's got the ball has a convey of teammates but they get WAAAYYY too close to him and risk tripping him. Coaches need to tell their players in those scenarios, the guy with the ball has to be closest to the goaline, everyone else needs to be at least 3 yards behind the returner staving off potential tacklers and also to not tangle legs together and inadvertently "tackle" him.

December 1, 2013  06:21 PM ET

special-teamz coach f-d up........not saban.....?!

December 1, 2013  07:08 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

special-teamz coach f-d up........not saban.....?!

THIS^^^^^^^^^^

December 2, 2013  03:29 AM ET
QUOTE(#6):

did anyone else think watching the run back on the missed FG that #27 of Auburn was going to get his legs tangled with Davis??? I was watching this live saying "get away from him!!!!" because remember in college if you fall down on your own, the play is over. . . .

I did. I thought that every single time I watched the replay. The only thing worse than Saban attempting that FG would have been No. 27 (Therezie-so lame he made me look at his name on the jersey in slow mo) knocking Davis down. When I first saw the replay I paused it at the 13 yard line where their feet nearly touched and at the 12 it looks like their calves DID actually touch. By the 10 he had his arm semi-draped around Davis' rear end like he was going to push him forward and then Therezie almost stepped on Davis' foot at the 2. I couldn't believe how close that dude came to being the Goat of the Century, Bartman, etc.

December 2, 2013  06:32 AM ET
QUOTE(#9):

I did. I thought that every single time I watched the replay. The only thing worse than Saban attempting that FG would have been No. 27 (Therezie-so lame he made me look at his name on the jersey in slow mo) knocking Davis down. When I first saw the replay I paused it at the 13 yard line where their feet nearly touched and at the 12 it looks like their calves DID actually touch. By the 10 he had his arm semi-draped around Davis' rear end like he was going to push him forward and then Therezie almost stepped on Davis' foot at the 2. I couldn't believe how close that dude came to being the Goat of the Century, Bartman, etc.

With all that said, I believe this is an area where college football needs to adopt an NFL rule.

A player being ruled down because he fell down on his own -or- was "tackled" by a teammate is a dumb rule IMO.

December 2, 2013  09:01 AM ET
QUOTE(#7):

special-teamz coach f-d up........not saban.....?!

I disagree. It was Saban's decision to kick a field goal and not try a Hail Mary or just take a knee and go to overtime. You can't put players on a special team like field goal unit that never practiced on that unit. Alabama already had one field goal blocked so putting in players who never practiced blocking on a field goal would have been a hugh mistake on the special team coaches part. Sagan made the ultimate decision. The special teams coach just tried to execute what his HC decided to do. Of course hindsight is 20/20. No one could've forsaw a 109 yard TD return off a missed field goal.

December 2, 2013  09:22 AM ET

Saban should have elected to go into OT. Trying to kick that long a FG was just a poor decision by him.

December 2, 2013  09:50 AM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Saban should have elected to go into OT. Trying to kick that long a FG was just a poor decision by him.

Plus he didn't have the players on the field that could prevent a return for a TD.

December 2, 2013  01:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

With all that said, I believe this is an area where college football needs to adopt an NFL rule.A player being ruled down because he fell down on his own -or- was "tackled" by a teammate is a dumb rule IMO.

^^^^ I agree. I would like to see that changed along with requiring two feet down in bounds on catches.

December 2, 2013  01:48 PM ET
QUOTE(#12):

Saban should have elected to go into OT. Trying to kick that long a FG was just a poor decision by him.

.....and a poor ''back-up'' plan in the event the opposing reciever runz it back [ala = david hester].

December 2, 2013  01:53 PM ET
QUOTE(#10):

With all that said, I believe this is an area where college football needs to adopt an NFL rule.A player being ruled down because he fell down on his own -or- was "tackled" by a teammate is a dumb rule IMO.

Yeah I did too LOL. I was like get away from him. That was one of the greatest games I have ever watched. I am glad Auburn won.

December 2, 2013  05:38 PM ET
QUOTE(#7):

special-teamz coach f-d up........not saban.....?!

Disagree mother; this occurs in the middle of the 2nd quarter when the Head Coach is thinking of other things then yes the ST Coach has the hammer. In this case, last play of the game, ages to discuss while Refs sort out "lost second" then the Head Coach MUST talk to his ST Coach and ensure all contingencies are addressed and "what if'd..." to death.

 
December 2, 2013  10:10 PM ET
QUOTE(#14):

^^^^ I agree. I would like to see that changed along with requiring two feet down in bounds on catches.

I've found there's actually a lot of people who prefer the one foot in bound rule.

I also consider those individuals mentally retarded.

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