NFL  > Green Bay Packers  > Green Bay Packers Mock Draft Discussion
February 27, 2009, 03:11 PM
This is continued from my earlier post about the Packer's offseason. The Green Bay Packers have many holes to fill, prefurably rebuilding the O-line and bringing n players experienced in the 3-4 to bolster the Defense. They could also use youth and depth in the secondary. Here are some selections as of Febraury 27th tht the packers should make come draft day:

#9- the Packers can do 1 of 2 things. They can draft one of the many talented Offensive tackles, or draft a player that fits into their 3-4 system Dom Capers is bringing. So if i was Ted Thompson, the first thing i would look at would be if Jason Smith or Eugen Monroe are left on the board. If 1 of them are left, Thompson should jump on them since they are the 2 elite offensive lineman in the draft in my opinion. If not, he could pick up a 3-4 man such as Everrette Brown, B.J. Raji, or Brian Orakpo. i am not a real fan of any of these players, but i think Everrette Brown would be the best choice. Raji and Orakpo are kind of 1 year wonders and Orakpo was invisable in the big games, such as the Fiesta Bowl. Players Ted Thompson really needs to pass up if they are left: Michael Oher, OT, Andre Smith, OT, Brain Orakpo, DE, B.J. Raji, NT, Malcolm Jenkins, CB.
The Wildcard here would be trading down and picking up 1 of the lesser Offensive tackles liek William Beatty or Eben Britton or picking up a lesser 3-4 guy like Aaron Maybin or Larry English. I would like Thompson to trade up and get Aaron Curry, who would fit the system perfectly, but we Packer fans know that will not be an option....sigh.

#41- Depending what way the Packers go in Round 1, if they draft an O-lineman or a 3-4 guy, the packers will do the opposite in round 2. So if they get an O-lineman in round 1, look for them to try and get a nice 3-4 talent like Paul Kruger, DE, Clint Sintim, DE/OLB, or Robert Ayers, DE. If they took a 3-4 guy in round 1, the O-lineman most likely that would fit nicely would be Jamon Merideth, OT, Phil Loadholt, OT, or my favorite, Max Unger, OL. Unger can play any position on the line and is very versatile and had good experience at Oregon helping Jonathan Stewart and Dennis Dixon out.
Wildcard: Thompson might go Defensive Back her, but i hope not. He drafted Pat lee,CB last year in round 2 and he didnt look so good. But if he does look at Darius Butler, CB, D.J. Moore, CB, and Sean Smith, CB/S.

#73- most likely an offensive lineman or D-lineman. I would go with Troy Kropug, OT, Ron Brace, NT, or Xavier Fulton, OT, Illinois.

#84- 2 3rd round picks could mean drafting a TE or CB here. i say Jared Cook, TE, James Casey, TE, Jarius Byrd, CB/S, or Keenan Lewis, CB.

#105- This 4th round pick will jsut to add depth at the D-line and Linebacker Spots.
Vance Walker, DE/DT, Marcus Freeman, LB, or Jason Williams, OLB.


This is as far as i will go. Leave your comments or whatever. Will try to respond A.S.A.P.
March 2, 2009  10:38 AM ET

Well thought out, except one major issue: TT doesn't draft on need, he goes by value--best player available. That's why we got Rodgers in 05 when we didn't 'need' a QB. Thus, looking at who's likely to be the best available player at 9 (I don't think we'll trade down, just like we didn't trade down in 06 to get Hawk), you're right that if Smith or Monroe are available we'll take 'em. But I don't think those guys will fall out of the Top 6.
I think we'll take Vontae Davis (CB). One of the changes arising out of the 3-4 switch (and, surprisingly, not mentioned nearly enough) is that our corners will need to blitz more and play zones at least occasionally, rather than all man-to-man. Davis is an excellent blitzer and is aggressive enough for man-to-man, but has enough awareness to play zones, too. Last year, we wouldn't have valued a player like Davis very high because he wouldn't have fit in Bates' system very well. But I'm sure he's the highest rated CB for Capers' system and a better value at 9 than Raji, Orakpo, or Brown.
That's my thoughts on our first pick. I couldn't even venture to guess what TT will do in the other rounds. It's to difficult to predict where he'll trade (down), but I'd guess he'll try to trade down our 2nd round (41) pick to the back of the round and/or one of the third rounders, probably the 84th, from the Jets. I bet he'll trade our 6th or 7th rounder for one of the last picks of the 7th round to pick up a 6th round pick in 2010. Just guessing.

March 2, 2009  01:10 PM ET

I know this isn't a big name, but Igor Olshansky is a solid 3-4 defensive end and one they should look at. If they sign him, I don't have a problem with a Offensive Tackle or Cornerback being taken at 9. Somehow, they need to address the lack of depth on that D-Line. I would love that pickup and then draft Monroe. Then we have three picks in the next two round I believe. At that point you have some picks to use on depth. How about a guy like Brian Cushing to play that OLB in the 3-4 if he is there or the Matthews kid in round 2. The next two picks try and get a diamond in the rough in rounds 2 and 3 a corner or another tight end. We have to start drafting by need. I don't like Orakpo or Everette Brown. Anyone heard of Jamal Reynolds?

March 2, 2009  01:12 PM ET

I love that Casey kid from Rice for the tight end pick. We need toughness from that spot.

March 3, 2009  09:20 AM ET

Agree with u JOEYS. I lkie the idea of picking up Olshansky and would then give the packers some versatility with the #9 pick. I dont like a Corner at #9 considering it is a huge reach considering nobody did that well at the combine to rise their stock. An offensive Lineman would be great. Although im sure TT would be scared of taking Andre Smith...

March 5, 2009  12:24 AM ET

I also agree with you JOEYS. Olshansky is young and has been productive. This would give the Pack a chance to upgrade at OT or CB and I think in the second round we take either OT or CB depending on the first round. I think it would be great if Jarron Gilbert from San Jose State fell to us in the 3rd round. He had a good combine and has major upside.

March 5, 2009  09:47 AM ET

Knight18 I also like Jarron Gilbert, but your right, with his combine performence, he might even be taking in the top half of the 2nd round now. I even saw 1 mick draft having the Steelers taking him in the 1st....

March 6, 2009  02:48 PM ET

Believe it or not, I think Vontae Davis CB is the pick, assuming TT thinks he can be Packer people. I know what his brother said after being passed by the Packers for Hawk but maybe this guy is different than his brother. He looks like prototypical CB - big, fast and strong, who can play all aspects of position e.g., m2m, zone, blitz and hit like a Mack truck. However, I think this draft sets up for a trade-down. Lots of nice picks in 10 to 20 range, and lower, and maybe someone wants Sanchez bad enough to jump in front of 9ers. Other possibility is to trade up if price is right (maybe a 3rd) and get thee player TT wants most of all - Rajii? J Smith?
I'd hate to use the #9 pick on a Brown/Okrapco type - risk is too big. Either get a virtual sure thing stud like Rajii or JSmith, or punt and trade down. One thing for sure, TT will devote most of this draft to defense. When teams bring in new coordinators they always retool on that side of the ball. The top of the draft is strong in that direction. If there is a LT he falls in love with and that guy is there after the tradedown, he may go that way and all defense for next several. As far as BPA is concerned this year, other than a LT, it is BDPA all teh way.

March 6, 2009  02:54 PM ET

Green Bay NEEDS to go after Roy Williams, he is a proven hard hitting safty that will fit in well with Harris, Woodson, and Collins. I do agree we need some youth at CB but it is a position we can use a later round pick on. I think we should look to move UP in the draft and draft an impact DL to help make that transition to 3-4 easier. More likely though TT will trade down and stockpile draft picks especially if a team really wants one of the top QBs in the draft and wants to move up to draft that player, knowing TT's history that team will be looking to GB as a prime trade partner.

March 6, 2009  03:03 PM ET

Jason Smith would be great, but theres too greata chance hell be taken by the Rams. Raji now predicts to go to Seattle or Oakland. I am not a fan of either Orakpo or Brown, but well see how it goes. I also am not sure about Davis, so hes kind of a risk, especially in the top 10, which is a reach. I say draft down also.

March 6, 2009  03:39 PM ET

I gonna call it and say we trade in the first round for the first time in TT's GM career. 1st round Pick 9 and 3rd Round Pick 9 for 1st Round Pick 7 and 5th Round Pick 7.

Then the draft goes as follows: Pick 7 - DT B.J. Raji; Pick 41 - OLB Clint Sintim, Pick 84 - SS Chip Vaughn, Pick 105 - OT Gerald Cadogan, Pick 135 - DT Roy Miller, Pick 137 - OT Joel Bell, Pick 169 - C Jon Cooper, Pick 175 - FB/TE D. Johnson, Pick 201 - DE Zack Potter

This draft accomplishes 2 things. Gets lots of young talent and competition for our front 7 on D (4 players) and continues to create competition along the O-line (3 players). SS Vaughn provides quality depth in case Bigby leaves via Free Agency next year and Johnson could make an excellent fullback in the future.

March 9, 2009  09:11 AM ET
QUOTE(#10):

I gonna call it and say we trade in the first round for the first time in TT's GM career. 1st round Pick 9 and 3rd Round Pick 9 for 1st Round Pick 7 and 5th Round Pick 7.Then the draft goes as follows: Pick 7 - DT B.J. Raji; Pick 41 - OLB Clint Sintim, Pick 84 - SS Chip Vaughn, Pick 105 - OT Gerald Cadogan, Pick 135 - DT Roy Miller, Pick 137 - OT Joel Bell, Pick 169 - C Jon Cooper, Pick 175 - FB/TE D. Johnson, Pick 201 - DE Zack PotterThis draft accomplishes 2 things. Gets lots of young talent and competition for our front 7 on D (4 players) and continues to create competition along the O-line (3 players). SS Vaughn provides quality depth in case Bigby leaves via Free Agency next year and Johnson could make an excellent fullback in the future.

Good luck with that...lol

March 9, 2009  09:42 AM ET

First of all I would fire Ted Thompson. Then I would trade the #9 pick. We need to go defense.

March 9, 2009  03:22 PM ET

I say trading the 9th pick ONLY if Jason Brown or Eugene Monroe or B.J. Raji doesnt fall to us. If they dont, trade it. If Thompson keeps it and drafts another Justin Harrell- i say LATER TT!

March 11, 2009  02:49 PM ET

its very unlikely that Monroe or Raji will fall to us at 9, and Jason SMITH is near lock to be gone, and you could almost throw Orakpo in that group as well. So who will most likely be left to choose from will be: Andre Smith, Michael Oher, Aaron Maybin, Everette Brown, Brian Cushing, Tyson Jackson, Malcolm Jenkins. I think you could then narrow this list down to about three more likely candidates including, Cushing, Maybin, and Jackson (possibly Oher). If this happens the Packers could either select which one of the three to four solid yet unspectacular prospects they like most, or trade the pick--which is a very viable option. If Orakpo, Raji, Monroe or even Michael Crabtree fall to the packers, then I think the packers will and should select them.

March 11, 2009  02:50 PM ET

yea will and should, but with TT u never know...

March 12, 2009  08:17 AM ET

i dont believe in Malcolm jenkins..I think he will be no better than an avg CB. We need DL, OLB, OT, and CB....in that order. I would love to get Jason Smith, but Detroit would be smart to get him #1 and build for the future like Miami did last year. I'm thinking raji or Manulamanuga (sp?) from USC. Move Hawk to the outside or maybe manulamanuga can play outside. i know Hawk is better inside than out tho. of course, knowing TT, he will draft a WR or a TE in the first round.

March 12, 2009  09:48 AM ET

No i think hes not that idiotic to draft a WR or TE this high (unless Crabtree somehow falls) and i wouldnt blame him. Raji is projected to go to the Seahawks, Raiders, or Jaguars. Maualuga would be a huge reach at #9, and he would be a waste of a pick. He does the same thing Hawk does. I dont like Jenkins either. Eugene Monroe is a small possibility, but if the PAck dont trade out of the #9 they are most liekly left with Jenkins, Vontae Davis, Everrette Brown, or Aaron Maybin, none that i like very much. I would rather have Larry English the DE/OLB later in the round while picking up more draft picks then waste it on Brown or Maybin early.

March 16, 2009  08:51 AM ET

Bj Raji!!!

March 17, 2009  01:32 AM ET

bj raji will not be there...

 
March 17, 2009  01:39 AM ET

but you're right, if he's there, he's ours...

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