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You guys gave up on a QB after 2 seasons, and the first season you almost made the playoffs bc of him. Thanks for ruining one of the best talents of all time. I used to think Fisher was an awesome coach, not he's just another noob

No doubt things are tough here in TN. It is clear that our expectations are over-inflated. When we drafted Vince we all had notions in our minds of a future hall of famer that would lead us to the promise land (superbowl) year after year. In reality we inherited a fledgling QB who was not quite ready to be "that" guy. Over the past few years Vince has played decent......decent for a QB that makes a much lower salary. He may still be that hall of famer that we are looking for, but the Titan organization can't afford to wait. They need to start making preparations (i.e. find other options) in case Vince's progress takes longer than a year or two. Fisher is one of the longest tenured coaches and there is a reason for that. As for "ruining one of the best talents of all time"......at the end of the day Vince is the only one responsible for "his" talents. The coaches may have a very slight impact, but certainly not the fans.

id keep , him what would you lose if he had a low salary cap plus he mite do somthing

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Originally posted 03:00 PM ET  04.09 by Jerry Jones SB Ring Pimp Slap

You guys gave up on a QB after 2 seasons, and the first season you almost made the playoffs bc of him. Thanks for ruining one of the best talents of all time. I used to think Fisher was an awesome coach, not he's just another noob

nah. vince gave up on the team after getting booed.

and 'almost' counts only in horseshoes and hand grenades.

collins took over and ;ed team to nfl best 13-3 and #1 seed/

fisher and bud adams could have put young back in after he healed, but they didnt.

now why is that?

young isnt the answer. he isnt a passer. vick wasnt a passer. so many college qb's are receivers now, but some people just get involved with the hype.

you really think young would have gone as #3 if he lost rose bowl? he rode the hype wave.

people say collins sucks and is to old, etc.

well, collins and young are like leinart and warner.

warner is around same age if not older and just got back from super bowl. leinart broke his collar bone and had to sit out.

young broke his...oh wait, he was booed and didnt want to go in.

i dont care that you may like young cuz he is from your school or you live in tennessee: you go with the best man.

and the best man for tenn isnt young.

he had one of the worst qb rating ever in thr nfl. has a horrible td-int ratio. people say he led them to wins. collins and vince had same exact team and look what collins did.

at least leinart was doing decent before his injury (record 500 yds vs #1 D bears: neil rackers missed the kick, so oh well)

Qb = passer. you could never say 'passer' and vince young' int he same sentence unless the word 'not' is in there.

cut the losses man. why pay millions to a guy who doesnt know or has learned the passing game, and worse, gives up on you?

I lol at the NFL who pays millions for a guy to keep a seat warm and wear. teachers and nurses who save lives get about a fraction of that for busting tail.

you are an idiot. collins LED the team to the 13-3 season? NO HE DIDNT he just sat there while Johnson and the defense won the game. really? you think VY is that bad? in 06 we had THE WORST D in the league and an ok running game. who do you think won those games? Young did. come on, dont act like a stupid **** when you have no idea what you are talking about.

Vince may not be the answer, but he did DAMN good his rookie year, and no one seems to recognize that

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Originally posted 09:52 PM ET  04.10 by coolguy28

you are an idiot. collins LED the team to the 13-3 season? NO HE DIDNT he just sat there while Johnson and the defense won the game. really? you think VY is that bad? in 06 we had THE WORST D in the league and an ok running game. who do you think won those games? Young did. come on, dont act like a stupid **** when you have no idea what you are talking about.Vince may not be the answer, but he did DAMN good his rookie year, and no one seems to recognize that

young won those games and not the D, eh?

even though he had one of the worst rating in the nfl?

but he won the games, eh?

even though he has one of the worst td-int rations.

but he won those games. eh?

even though against indy's third stringer he went 4 for 12, 30 yards passing

but he won those games, eh?

1st game of the season gets booed after throwing 2 ints then refuses to go back, but collins has a better passing year than any of youngs

but he won those games, eh?

there is a reason bud adams and jeff fisher didnt make young the starter again after young's 'injury' healed.

collins is the starter, young is not.

but young won all those games, eh?

no, no, it wasnt the D at all.

I am not surprised that the talk of the nfl world is every team regretting on passing young, cuz he won all those games.

Oh wait,NO they are not. everyone talks about the draft 'mistake' tennesse made.

but you are right.

Young won them all

cry baby vy should be gone if he doesn't care what happen during the season why should he be around at all. and for bud adams he need to get vy off the pedastel and come down to real life [talking about bud adams] if your head coach thinks he's srewed up mentally he shouldn't be there.when you start asking your coach what you need to do you are too inmature too play the position you have

To answer your question: I would keep him if his contract could be reworked. Being that Vince Young is still young and still has the potential to be a decent starting quarterback, I don't see why the Titans wouldn't keep him as a backup for backup money. If Collins went down, Young could come in a perform well enough to give the team a few wins.

Kerry collins has 1 year left probably. After he leaves whose gonna be qb? we have to keep Young around either to be the qb of the future or until we can find a better one

As a Titans fan, I don't think that it's ever going to be easy to deal with this crazy quarterback situation that's going on. I was there routing for the Titans when we lost our star qb, Steve McNair, and those were some very dark days. I was so thankful that we got Vince Young through the draft in 06'. People will say so much negative stuff about the kid, but I tell you, he really gave us fans something to be proud of - winning games in Titans fashion, by surprising teams with unorthodox-underdog style football. He brought the excitement back to our team. I still love watching Vince Young's highlight reels from his first two years in the league. So he got pissed for being booed- he's human. A young one at that. I'm happy for Kerry Collins, but we still lost the FIRST playoff game to the Ratbirds anyway. So I'm having a hard time not seeing Vince play.

Cut his ass.

I think he should go ,He dont have the heart to stand up and play even when being booed .I say let him go and look at the prospects for next year you have Colt Mcoy and Tim Tebow along with Bradford . That is just 3 of the QB's coming out next year . I was one of the Fans who was around when we lost Mcnair and seen it every sunday how bad it hurt to see the team without him.I cheered when we got Young I thought he was the answer to the problem ,but he him self proved wrong he dont have it .I see a group of young QB's coming out next year that bring alot of talent .So I would cut ties with Young and go for it next year in the draft what can it hurt ?Not much more than having Young sit and cry over everything and getting paid for it .

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Originally posted 03:00 PM ET  04.09 by Jerry Jones SB Ring Pimp Slap

You guys gave up on a QB after 2 seasons, and the first season you almost made the playoffs bc of him. Thanks for ruining one of the best talents of all time. I used to think Fisher was an awesome coach, not he's just another noob

You really think Vy is the answer wow .Then you take him so he can cry and wine over being booed and refusing to come back in .That is some real talent he has there he knows how to hide from his poor decisions he made . He cant throw a good pass to save his life now he wants to run run run . He is a bigger slower vick . Now maybe he could have a good career as a TE or WR not likely but maybe . Collins is the guy who took the lead role he may be old and he may have not had alot of passing yards but he stood in there and took on the job and showed VY what it takes to be a leader in the NFL .

Everyone has valid points on what needs to be done with Vince. I am a Titans fan and I am also a Texas Longhorn fan, so my outlook on the future my be a bit bias. I for one believe that VY will be a future superstar & it is true everyone seems to forget that this guy was Rookie of the Year on a far less talented team. I believe Vince handled the 1st quarter of the season totally wrong. From refusing to go in against Jacksonville, to not being able to be reached on that fateful monday night. He showed a lot of immaturity but you can't tell me he could not have done the same job Kerry Collins did last year. We have talent now and if you add Vince to our offensive arsenal (minus the mistakes of course) we could be very scary. VY has to understand that he is on a very talented NFL team and doesn't have to put the team on his back (ALA Rose Bowl) and carry the team to the Super Bowl. Take what the defense gives you get the ball to your playmakers and let them inflate your stats like they did Kerry last year. I am grateful for what Kerry has done for the Titans. He has provided VY with the blueprint with this particular team. Renegotiate, keep him and watch at least a Super Bowl come into immediate focus. The best thing for VY & the Titans in the long run is to stay together and finish what they started 3 years ago. Steve McNair didn't really get it until year four & our patience paid of their, let's have history repeat itself with the exception of getting that 1 yard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Make a running back out of him, or a receiver

The standard has always been... 3-4 years to adapt to the league, then turn them out to the wolves and produce. He was slapped on the burner in the middle of his rookie season. He didn't have the best stats, but the playoffs were made his second season. He was injured his third season (again, should have been another learning year for him)... and now a lot of you want him cut. Make up your minds.

It is becoming very obvious as to why all of us are sitting here typing. We can neither coach nor play the game.

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Originally posted 12:21 AM ET  04.11 by beebeebeebs

young won those games and not the D, eh?even though he had one of the worst rating in the nfl?but he won the games, eh?even though he has one of the worst td-int rations.but he won those games. eh?even though against indy's third stringer he went 4 for 12, 30 yards passingbut he won those games, eh?1st game of the season gets booed after throwing 2 ints then refuses to go back, but collins has a better passing year than any of youngsbut he won those games, eh?there is a reason bud adams and jeff fisher didnt make young the starter again after young's 'injury' healed.collins is the starter, young is not.but young won all those games, eh?no, no, it wasnt the D at all.I am not surprised that the talk of the nfl world is every team regretting on passing young, cuz he won all those games.Oh wait,NO they are not. everyone talks about the draft 'mistake' tennesse made.but you are right.Young won them all

first of all, yes HE WON THOSE DAMN GAMES. Im talking about rookie year. 2006. he was 11-12 TD INT. not bad for a rookie. how does how he does against indy this year have anything to do with '06? and how do you know what the **** happened on the field that day? im not saying he was right, because he wasnt. but im not surprised you listened to all the talking heads who know exactly what they're talking about. remember when the team started 0-5 with, yep, you guessed it KERRY COLLINS as starter. then vince took the team to 8-8. the defense WAS ranked 32nd. and they didnt give much help.
how do you know vince would have done worse than collins this year? he wasnt given the chance. I mean Jesus. hes not manning, or even Cutler, but he did well when given the opportunity, and he deserves another chance. whether he gets it with us, is another question entirely

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Originally posted 03:00 PM ET  04.09 by Jerry Jones SB Ring Pimp Slap

You guys gave up on a QB after 2 seasons, and the first season you almost made the playoffs bc of him. Thanks for ruining one of the best talents of all time. I used to think Fisher was an awesome coach, not he's just another noob

in response to Jeff Fisher being a "noob" whatever that is..Coach IS an awsome coach and is one of the best coaches in the NFL...period..we didn't waste the talent of VY...he wasted it all by himself...he has great athetic ability but he is NOT a NFL starting QB

i agree... vince only got 2 seasons and one was pretty good. how can you give up on him so quickly. he needs maturing and someone that can help him w/ the pressure of the NFL. but he has talent and given the right mentoring and time, i'd bet he can produce. heck, 50% or more of the teams QBs today are work-in-progress. vince falls into that bunch, but i say give him more time.

true_TITAN_fan: Vince's talent is not wasted. It's there. His talent and upside are great indeed. You are right that "right now" he is not a starting QB. If and when Vince learns to read defenses and make progressions then he will be ready to take control.

DallasFan77: I think that people are frustrated. Everyone, including myself, was wanting Vince to be Peyton Manning. You know, the guy who comes in from day one and leads team after team to win after win. It's not that they are "giving up" on Vince, but it's more of a judgement call based on what they have seen in the recent past and presently. Great point on the maturation though. He may just be our Tom Brady. You know the guy that has talent, but rides the bench behind an aging Bledsoe (I mean Collins) waiting for an opportunity. I'm with you. I want to give him more time and keep him around. But in the meantime I have no problem with drafting/shopping for a new QB next year just in case......or at least to win some games in the meantime.