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I agree with the order. FYI Josh Cribbs is their return specialist/ receiver. He played QB in college (I think). He went in when Anderson and Quinn both were injured in the same game last year. Good points on Edwards not having the team or QB around him. However... receivers get paid to catch the ball. I don???t care if I am the one throwing the ball... if it touches their hands, they are supposed to catch it. before you make the argument to this. I know some balls can be uncatchable. Some QB's have rocket arms and sometimes you need a "touch" to the ball (Phil Sims, Montana, Young. None had prolific arms but all had a great touch to their throw). QB's throw the ball, lineman block, RB's run. Receivers catch the ball period, u cant blame the QB for that. It???s like blaming a receiver for interceptions when the ball is tipped (which I personally don???t think should count but it does).
I agree with Boldin's toughness vs his injuries. You cant overpay for someone who has taking the hits like he has??? you can only applaud him. Possession receivers fit the slot or no 2 spot better than a no 1. That???s why I think he and TJ are not going to be good no 1 receivers.

As for Johnson. he can complain all he wants. It???s the teams fault, I don???t want to be here. last year was bad because of everyone else but me. At the end of it, he is more worried about what color his grill piece is, what his name is on a jersey and what his TD celebrations will be more so than winning football games and championships. he has no one else to blame. Hey ocho... you need to catch the ball in the end zone in order to use those elaborate celebrations you worked so hard on!!!

You're right about the catch thing - in most scenarios, but let's look at it from this case... About Edwards

1. Dropped Passes not an official stat, kinda like the "tuck" rule is retarded - it's based on opinion, unlike a sack, tackle, etc.

2. A receiver runs a route, runs it correctly, and QB throws it behind him, but the receiver does what he can to catch it, but the ball goes through his hands, or something like that, and in some games it has been called a drop in others it has not. What about a pass that is too low or too high?

Think about it from the OTHER side of the equation - how many catches did he make BECAUSE of his abilities, based on horrible QB play - Yds/attempt <5.5; completion % 48.8% for all 4 QB's combined. That means the following - he was the deep route, and therefore he was not being targeted as much as he would be normally.

ALSO, any completion % below 58 is not considered accurate and no Cleveland QB got within 7% points of that, which would have added another 35-40 completions, and seeing he CAUGHT 25% of the completions, he would have had a 70 catch season, presumably, IF the QB were accurate.

ACCURACY affects drops, or lack thereof. Let me ask you something - I throw you a pass running a deep post, and you beat the CB but the D is playing a cover 1 with a S playing deep. I throw the ball slightly behind you, meaning you have to adjust. As the pass gets closer and you have run your route correctly, you realize you actually have to turn around to catch the ball, and the CB's hands are in the way, but you get your hands on it cleanly, but alas because of the distractions, lack of accuracy, etc, you drop the ball. Your fault, or the QB's?

Now if the ball hits in the hands like in the second game against the Eagles with Hixon on the deep post when he had the CB beaten, then yes, it his fault. Again - who do you think is more liekly to be at fault between a TALENT like Edwards or the BAD play of the QB's and supporting cast?

Balls coming out too quickly, the QB reads in when it should be out, Happy feet, you name it. All of those impact a player on the move much more than the avearge fan gives it credit for. How about a bad offense means you can't get into a rhythm?

Then, throw in the fact that Cleveland fans had nothing to root for, and wanted to find a scapegoat... easy to pin the blame on him, right? Also, look at how many passes targeted him, and then combine catches and drops and divide that to find out the % of catchable balls compared to other top receivers... You'll get the picture. Guys that have the ball delivered to them accurately don't drop balls.

Example... what other NFL receiver dropped 12 passes last year? He was in Denver, but it was overlooked because of stellar offensive play in general.

Although I'm not a fan of Chad "Ochocinco" I think it needs to be noted he was without Carson Palmer. Ocho Cinco isn't anything without Carson Palmer. Neither is any other reciever in the league without there starting quarterback. Look at Randy Moss in Oakland, who threw to him again??? Andrew Walter? Randy didn't contribute in Oakland because he didn't have a quarterback and Chad didn't contribute anything without Palmer, understandable. Think of the colts without Peyton. How would Reggie Wayne do? Palmer is back and says that he is 100% healthy. Anyone with a descent starting quarterback and a nice side kick to the Ocho would get a steal. Look for Chad to return to the Bengals and start producing again.

If you had watched any Browns' games last year you wouldn't be blaming the QB for dropped passes. In 2007 he had the same Derek Anderson throwing to him that he did in 08 and didn't seem to have a problem holding on to the ball.

Boldin's rookie stats, the year before Fitz got to Arizona:

101 Receptions 1,377 Yards 8 TD's

I don't see why your using the fact that Q and Chad had good QB's throwing to them. Are you concerned that Manning is not a good QB?

Chad is not a bad teammate at all. He has fun with the GAME he plays for a living. People criticize those who take the game too serious (ie Kellen Winslow is a soldier...), or those that treat it too much like a business (contract renegotiations), or those who treat it like a game (Chad)

Why don't we just get some robots out there?

i think we get the best LB on the board 1st and Pat white with our second pick.....what?!.....if i have to explain it to you...well why bother!?

Forget all those over paid premadonas.....White in the Giants line up (at any other position than QB) would be a nightmare for all of our opponents!!!!!

Then we work on getting a 'project' WR, solid OL and CB help.

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Originally posted 03:34 PM ET  04.22 by HAUL-UPINYA!

Forget all those over paid premadonas.....White in the Giants line up (at any other position than QB) would be a nightmare for all of our opponents!!!!!

Im not really sure that you know what your talking about. Dont get wrapped up in "the wildcat" its a trend that will die out soon after defensive co. figure it out. The giants are smash mouthrun, play action pass and tough defense especailly against the run. If they drafted white and attempted the wildcat they would be the laughing stock of the NFC east. Stick the the topic of the three recievers mentioned please!!!

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Originally posted 03:03 PM ET  04.22 by Know it all

If you had watched any Browns' games last year you wouldn't be blaming the QB for dropped passes. In 2007 he had the same Derek Anderson throwing to him that he did in 08 and didn't seem to have a problem holding on to the ball.Boldin's rookie stats, the year before Fitz got to Arizona:101 Receptions 1,377 Yards 8 TD'sI don't see why your using the fact that Q and Chad had good QB's throwing to them. Are you concerned that Manning is not a good QB?Chad is not a bad teammate at all. He has fun with the GAME he plays for a living. People criticize those who take the game too serious (ie Kellen Winslow is a soldier...), or those that treat it too much like a business (contract renegotiations), or those who treat it like a game (Chad)Why don't we just get some robots out there?

Chad is me first and a bad teamate. Dont confuse what I am saying here. He loves the game and he is extremly talented (TO). but he cares about stupid crap like what his jersey name is. I will say he is not the begals problem... he wasnt in jail last year like the rest of his team!!! but the facts are the facts... both him Chad and Keyshawn will be forgotting in 20 years. Which is sad because both had talent and wasted it because they were me first players and selfish. (whenever I see keyshawn on tv I think of his face when the drafted a reciever while he was hosting the draft. The same thing will happen to chad very soon!!!)

READ THIS BEOTCH!

very articulate... glad you cleared that up for us and made an agrument for your points!!!

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Originally posted 03:03 PM ET  04.22 by Know it all

If you had watched any Browns' games last year you wouldn't be blaming the QB for dropped passes. In 2007 he had the same Derek Anderson throwing to him that he did in 08 and didn't seem to have a problem holding on to the ball.Boldin's rookie stats, the year before Fitz got to Arizona:101 Receptions 1,377 Yards 8 TD'sI don't see why your using the fact that Q and Chad had good QB's throwing to them. Are you concerned that Manning is not a good QB?Chad is not a bad teammate at all. He has fun with the GAME he plays for a living. People criticize those who take the game too serious (ie Kellen Winslow is a soldier...), or those that treat it too much like a business (contract renegotiations), or those who treat it like a game (Chad)Why don't we just get some robots out there?

I guess you did not watch any football last year, because yeah, it might have been the same GUY throwing the ball to Braylon, but 16 drops through the season would not have done squat for Anderson's 50% completion percentage... last I check, that is not accurate, and you must not be gifted enough to understand that there are consepts beyond drops that you have to look at when analyzing the big picture.

Also, my point on Q is that he is where is today because of Fitz, and yeah that was his ROOKIE year. Kinda like saying I'm a Chiefs fan and at least we won a Super Bowl.... It's a ridiculous point. Also, look at the remainder of his stats, and explain why there is a variance, a decline in yds/rec and 20 missed games.

IN CASE YOU DID NOT NOTICE, A PLAYER NEEDS TO BE ON THE FIELD TO CONTRIBUTE. kinda like what happened with Plax last year... Doesn't matte why he is off the field, just that he misses games. Also, he is not a deep threat, and the Giants O is based on run first, play-action passes deep, to then go back to the run and close out the game. How does Q, who is slow fit into that mold?

So in your view, about Chad, you would say that having TO on your team is a good thing? You would say that having a player that is openly a malcontent is a good thing? Do you have ANY clue what that does to team chemistry? It wrecks it. Sure he's funny, I'll give you that, but his best football is behind him. Having to answer questions about some idiot who is crying about getting traded weighs on guys, and becomes a "distraction" as a lot of the guys say.

Go and watch NFL Live in ESPN for a year, learn something about the game, then come back and tell me I'm wrong.

Also, the point about good QB's throwing to them, which was obviously too advanced a concept for you to fathom (hopefully you know what that means, if not look it up), is that a ball being delivered in the right place at the right time is the reason why alot of these guys don't drop balls. Also, when was the last time you saw a WR go to the Pro Bowl with a QB with a completion % below 55? There is a reason why people look for 60%...

THINK about more than the friggin numbers, then you might start to sound like you know something. Go drink your milk before your mom grounds you.

I don't get the love afair with braylon ? trust me you don't want him . because once you have him he's truly your problem . ya he'll make some plays but one more year with all the recievers big blue has and they will gell . Im a browns fan and trust me we would love to have the issue you guys have at wideout ! till that happens the browns are stuck with him . And I find it quite funny that the browns now have robiskie at the other wideout postition (OSU) braylon actually thanks browns fans don't like him because he's a wolverine ???? catch the ball and we would tolerate you crying !

I like who the Giants went for in the draft, but it's a shame it didn't work out with Edwards because I think the kid is a beast. yeah, he had a bad year, but he was in a bad environment. No consistency with the QB situation doesn't help a struggling WR. A new team for Edwards will spark him again, this year or next.