While everything you have written is true, equally true is the abysmal Dec/Jan record of Tony Romo. No Cowboy fan should be regarded as a "hater". Expressing well deserved frustration shouldn't earn on the smear of being called a "hater". If these frustrated fans hate anything, it is losing. Going to Cabo with your bimbo and then losing... well... the chagrin of Cowboy fans at that stunt is not hating, it is acknowledging reality.
I think it is more than fair to label Romo a "choke artist", there are some readers who detest the term "choke artist", so I will instead use the term clutch. I challenge you all to give me an example of Romo being "clutch" i.e. a sound performance in a game where the boys season was on the line. If my memory serves me correctly, there is none. Every time Romo was fortunate to be in the playoffs he made major mistakes which cost his team the game, need I remind you he has yet to even win a playoff game. And last year when the boys season was on the line vs the eagles, he did not come close to looking like the dominant QB he had been during the earlier part of the season. Clutch is something you are born with, you either have it or you don't, I can tell you that it certainly cannot be taught for it is mental state, it is all between the ears.
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I agree, being a cowboy fan is a negative, but I disagree that there is only one too many, there are a lot more than one too many cowboy fans.
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While everything you have written is true, equally true is the abysmal Dec/Jan record of Tony Romo. No Cowboy fan should be regarded as a "hater". Expressing well deserved frustration shouldn't earn on the smear of being called a "hater". If these frustrated fans hate anything, it is losing. Going to Cabo with your bimbo and then losing... well... the chagrin of Cowboy fans at that stunt is not hating, it is acknowledging reality.
Going to Cabo was with the coaches blessings. If they hadn't of approved it, I doubt he would have went. I sure didn't agree with that vacation at all. Vacation time is after the season is over, not during, or near the end with so much at stake.
QUOTE(#2):
While everything you have written is true, equally true is the abysmal Dec/Jan record of Tony Romo. No Cowboy fan should be regarded as a "hater". Expressing well deserved frustration shouldn't earn on the smear of being called a "hater". If these frustrated fans hate anything, it is losing. Going to Cabo with your bimbo and then losing... well... the chagrin of Cowboy fans at that stunt is not hating, it is acknowledging reality.
Cabo isn't that far from Dallas. It's something like a 2 hour flight. And Tony went and hung out with Jason Witten and they threw balls, watched football, and focused on the upcoming game. They got away from the game, but they didn't lose their focus. Against the Giants, there were a ton of reasons the Cowboys lost the game, but this is also the same Giant team that beat the then 18-0 Patriots. It's not like we lost to a 8-8 division winner like the Colts did last year.
And the Dec record is a bit over blown. In '06, the Cowboys had locked up their playoff spot and were playing solely not to get injured and because Parcells doesn't give his teams the week off to rest. A bad Detroit team simply wanted it more than a Cowboys team that wasn't playing for anything other than non-injury.
Ditto in the loss to Washinton in '07. The starters played only a half, and again it looked as though their goals were to not get hurt and to break some of the team records.
In '08, Pittsburgh were the world champs. Baltimore was a surprise team that made it to the AFC championship game. And the Cowboys played them tooth and nail and the games were decided at the very end. Philly was an abomination, and that was a whole team loss. You can't put the blame on Romo for that. Literally, the whole team threw up all over themselves, from special teams, to offense, and defense.
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I think it is more than fair to label Romo a "choke artist", there are some readers who detest the term "choke artist", so I will instead use the term clutch. I challenge you all to give me an example of Romo being "clutch" i.e. a sound performance in a game where the boys season was on the line. If my memory serves me correctly, there is none. Every time Romo was fortunate to be in the playoffs he made major mistakes which cost his team the game, need I remind you he has yet to even win a playoff game. And last year when the boys season was on the line vs the eagles, he did not come close to looking like the dominant QB he had been during the earlier part of the season. Clutch is something you are born with, you either have it or you don't, I can tell you that it certainly cannot be taught for it is mental state, it is all between the ears.
Really? The bobble was bad against the Seahawks, but the drive before that is all but forgotten. The fact that Witten's catch was initially called a first down, but then overturned to bring up 4th down is overlooked. The fact that the o-line against the Giants in '08, and the Eagles in '08 was as porous as a sponge is completely overlooked. Tony was running for his life against the Giants, and against the Eagles had a rib injury caused by poor protection. There were fumbles everywhere, and the Cowboys as a team didn't show up to play.
Also against Seattle, no one remembers that Terry Glenn caught the ball on a quick pass and the proceeded to fumble the ball into our endzone which lead to a safety. What was the margin of victory again in the Seattle game? Right!
And apparently everyone is forgetting his ability to lead a drive at the end of a half, let alone at the end of the game (think Bills '07). Strangely people only have a selective memory for only the bad (think Bills '07).
But I can't convince those who have already made their decision. Watch the games... and I'm not just talking about where the ball is. I'm talking about the game. TE's against linebackers, o-line blocking, the running game and cutback lanes that are/aren't taken. The game of football isn't just about the QB.
Against the Ravens, Hamlin could have picked up the fumble. He didn't, the lead to a fake field goal try which became a Td. Hamlin then proceeded to miss two tackles which lead to 80ish yard runs. Seriously. Was Tony supposed to play Strong Safety out there?
Against the Giants in '08, after the offense have a 10 minute demoralizing drive, what happened. With 54ish seconds remaining, the Giants get a good return and the proceed to drive for a TD. Not a make you feel better FG, but a "Hey, we are in this game." TD.
Stop being so myopic!
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I agree, being a cowboy fan is a negative, but I disagree that there is only one too many, there are a lot more than one too many cowboy fans.
I too agree that there are too many fans. They are like cecadas, and they lay dormant for years, before coming out and they make too much noise. When the Cowboys are winning, they chirp like crazy talking about how great the Cowboys are, and when the Cowboys start to have problems, they talk about how AWFUL they are and they don't know why they continue to root for them and they make stupid assertions which are not based in fact.
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Going to Cabo was with the coaches blessings. If they hadn't of approved it, I doubt he would have went. I sure didn't agree with that vacation at all. Vacation time is after the season is over, not during, or near the end with so much at stake.
The moral of the story is that when your coach tells you to go and take a week off to heal and to not think of the game, you take a staycation in your home, or you don't leave the country. Otherwise, I don't think there is much you can complain about.
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I think it is more than fair to label Romo a "choke artist", there are some readers who detest the term "choke artist", so I will instead use the term clutch. I challenge you all to give me an example of Romo being "clutch" i.e. a sound performance in a game where the boys season was on the line. If my memory serves me correctly, there is none. Every time Romo was fortunate to be in the playoffs he made major mistakes which cost his team the game, need I remind you he has yet to even win a playoff game. And last year when the boys season was on the line vs the eagles, he did not come close to looking like the dominant QB he had been during the earlier part of the season. Clutch is something you are born with, you either have it or you don't, I can tell you that it certainly cannot be taught for it is mental state, it is all between the ears.
I tried once before to explain to you about Romo and the Cowboys on the other blog. I even went so far as to apologize for "being pompous" as you said I was. But, here you are again, trying to convince us that what you think of Romo and the Cowboys is gospel truth.
You continue to think Romo is the one at fault, as you did before, and as intelligent as you are, you should also know this is a TEAM SPORT!!!!. You and so many others refuse to acknowledge that Romo is only 1/11th of a TEAM. So, all these other guys on the team are faultless?
I will say this again, that I would much rather have Romo than any of the QB's before him and after Aikman. Romo has won a lot of games, a fact that you seem to ignore, and refuse to give him credit. THE MAN HAS ONLY STARTED 2 1/2 YEARS. How much time is required in your opinion to be an "elite QB"?..a couple of weeks?...How many years did Eli play before he finally got it right? 4? His brother? 9?
Again, opinions are like a**holes..........everyone has one, and I respect your right to think as you do, but you should also return the favor. If you don't like Romo and the Cowboys, then at least respect the fans. We can have civil discussions without you trying to convince us that your opinion is the only opinion. I will tell you now that your arguement is fruitless, as I will believe what I want to believe and not what you believe, just as I won't force my beliefs off on you. I think I can speak for most who post here as well.
Now, let's see if you return with your "level of haughtiness" that you usually reserve for your "professional environment", and try to make me look like a fool. It's not going to work. I did try being civil with you, and air out the difficulties we had in communication, but you never returned again to read my reply, or if you did, you never answered again. That's what I call "one way communication".
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I too agree that there are too many fans. They are like cecadas, and they lay dormant for years, before coming out and they make too much noise. When the Cowboys are winning, they chirp like crazy talking about how great the Cowboys are, and when the Cowboys start to have problems, they talk about how AWFUL they are and they don't know why they continue to root for them and they make stupid assertions which are not based in fact.
That's why I don't even bother trying to blog and make comments at DC.com. It's useless trying to talk football with people who are too rabid in their opinions and such. Not to mention getting off topic several times in one blog.
"........I can tell you that it certainly cannot be taught for it is mental state, it is all between the ears."
Last time I looked, anything mental usually consists of the brain, and the brain is where our knowledge is stored. So, how is it that it "cannot be taught"????
Maybe we're being blinded by brilliance, or baffled by bullsh*t? I'd think the latter.
Romo's label as a choke artist is ridiculous.
He has choked in all of 1 game...Seattle.
I can remember the guy leading this team back from several for sure defeats...remember the Buffalo game? how about scoring 10pts in the final 3 mins vs Arizona?
The December swoon is more about the TEAM than just Romo and even that is blown out of proportion.
I am tired of having to defend our star QB...b/c any true Boys fan who is armed with a tad bit of actual knowledge would know we were crap before Tony took over.
The kid has won 70% of his starts, posted more tds than everyone but Brady and Manning during that period and has the 3rd best QB rating behind the same two guys.
He will get over the hump and time will prove me right.
Roy Williams is a solid WR and will do well in our system, especially with Witten in the middle.
This team rarely misses on already established talent in the league and I do not doubt their judgement in letting TO go and keeping RW.
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While everything you have written is true, equally true is the abysmal Dec/Jan record of Tony Romo. No Cowboy fan should be regarded as a "hater". Expressing well deserved frustration shouldn't earn on the smear of being called a "hater". If these frustrated fans hate anything, it is losing. Going to Cabo with your bimbo and then losing... well... the chagrin of Cowboy fans at that stunt is not hating, it is acknowledging reality.
Would you have us trade him for.....ohhhhh.....say......Carson Palmer? Or, Jay Cutler.......Alex Smith........Aaron Rodgers...........Philip Rivers........and let's not forget Donovan McNabb......
I'm not trying to be a smartass here, but trying to prove a point. Rivers and Rodgers were supposed to make the playoffs every year. What happened? Smith was a first round draft pick....first pick I think. He's a bust so far, but that don't mean anything. He's still good enough to be on a team.
Has any of these guys taken their team to the "Promised Land"? McNabb went once, and lost, and has those NFC championship games that were.....lost. He is a tremendous QB, but he does have faults.
Jay Cutler was supposed to be the 2nd coming of John Elway. Now, he's the 2nd coming of Jim McMahon?
Romo made the playoffs twice, but the team got beat, or beat themselves. He still has a lot of time to rectify that, and I like our chances. It sure beats the snot out of trying with Quincy Carter......Chad Hutchinson.....who couldn't even make it with Chicago..........Drew Henson, who once beat out Tom Brady at Michigan State I think it was......or Michigan, one or the other.
So, yes, he may have "failed" in the 2 attempts he's had, not to mention the dec/jan games, but as I said, I'd much rather have a winning QB and have some semblance of a chance, than a loser, like the ones before him. There's plenty of losers out there, but sometimes it's not just the player, but the team as a whole.
This guy Orslopsky, or whatever his name is, from Detroit.........How did he get drafted or, whatever he did to make the team? I'd never heard of him til he waltzed out of the end zone, trying to throw a pass. He evidently is "good enough" to play pro football, but yet, made a fool of himself with that one play.
So, let's see how things pan out this year. McGee was brought in to be groomed, and if he's any good, he may make Romo sit up and take notice. Johnson and Bollinger could not do that.
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Romo's label as a choke artist is ridiculous.He has choked in all of 1 game...Seattle.I can remember the guy leading this team back from several for sure defeats...remember the Buffalo game? how about scoring 10pts in the final 3 mins vs Arizona?The December swoon is more about the TEAM than just Romo and even that is blown out of proportion.I am tired of having to defend our star QB...b/c any true Boys fan who is armed with a tad bit of actual knowledge would know we were crap before Tony took over.The kid has won 70% of his starts, posted more tds than everyone but Brady and Manning during that period and has the 3rd best QB rating behind the same two guys.He will get over the hump and time will prove me right.Roy Williams is a solid WR and will do well in our system, especially with Witten in the middle.This team rarely misses on already established talent in the league and I do not doubt their judgement in letting TO go and keeping RW.
But, Mr ETORRES477 begs to differ.............*laffin*
Some people, you can tell things as far as you can see them, but when they get up close, you can't tell them ****.. I get tired of trying to explain things myself, because they don't want to be confused by the facts. They're the wrong kind of being "open minded", in that they start leaving gray matter behind them as they walk.
Think I will do a notepad and put down all the info, and when I have to discuss this again, I'll just copy and paste. Save wear and tear on these old fingers...........lol
Do any of you guys remember the game between Cleveland and Denver......."The Drive" I think it's called now, or it could be "The Fumble". John Elway screwed Shottenheimer out of the playoffs twice in 2 years, and I think both were nicknamed as I mentioned.
The one I'm referring to is where Ernest Byner fumbled the ball near Denver's goal line as the Browns were about to score, and go ahead of Denver. Denver recovered and drove the length of the field and scored, thus winning the game.
The point is, Ernest Byner ran for about 200 yards or so, in that game, if memory serves me correctly. But, he won't be remembered for the yardage, but for the "FUMBLE".
That's how it is with most anything........including Romo. No matter what he does that's good, he will be remembered for "The Snap" or "The Collapse", or any number of things people find fault with him.
He's going to have to win in Dec/Jan, and maybe even a SB or two, before those are forgotten, if they are.
All well and true. I certainly don't dispute the numbers. I believe the key reason Romo is getting so much flack is an issue that has been dogging the Boys for a while, and that is LACK OF LEADERSHIP.
In some franchises that role falls to the coach(es). Unfortunately, the two-headed hydra (Coach Cupcake and the Red-headed Genius) that should strike fear into every opponent has shown a remarkable aversion to taking a leadership role in this franchise.
In other franchises, one or more players will assume team leadership. Often, this role falls to the QB as the most exposed player (Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben, others), sometimes to other players (Ray Lewis et al). And this is where Romo will need to step up. His track record has been dismal, what with Cabo and some postgame comments. But others will also have to step up. Who of other players is the leader of this team? We certainly have a number of outstanding players but a LEADER OF MEN? Not one.
Unfortunately, we of the cowboy nation have third position which has taken it upon itself to be the leader of the franchise, and that is J.J.
Take note: the whole T.O. disaster is a direct result of the absence of leadership in the locker room and on the field with this team. Allowing a petulant child to act up will only happen in situations where there is no leadership to put that child down. And in our case, neither the coaches nor the players were willing or able to step up to T.O., nope it had to be handled by the head honcho himself.
In summary then, Romo is undoubtedly a very good QB, the numbers bear that out, and postseasan success is probably just a matter of time. But if Romo doesn't MAN UP, and man up soon, he will best be remembered as a talented but otherwise uninspired and bland QB.
Similarly for the whole team, without some players stepping up and taking on visible and strong leadership roles, we will continue to be an average team with great individual players that disintegrates at the slightest bit of pressure. December here we come!
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One quick point of fact, in December the Cowboys play:
@ Giants
v. San Diego
@ New Orleans
@ Washinton
v. Philly
Anyone look at that scheduled and say it is a cake walk? They are talented enough to go 5-0 against those teams, but they could easily go 1-4 or 2-3 and it wouldn't be shocking. As a matter of fact, any team could go 2-3 against that December schedule (Patriots/Steelers/Colts), so don't get too high and mighty about finishing business in December.
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All well and true. I certainly don't dispute the numbers. I believe the key reason Romo is getting so much flack is an issue that has been dogging the Boys for a while, and that is LACK OF LEADERSHIP.In some franchises that role falls to the coach(es). Unfortunately, the two-headed hydra (Coach Cupcake and the Red-headed Genius) that should strike fear into every opponent has shown a remarkable aversion to taking a leadership role in this franchise.In other franchises, one or more players will assume team leadership. Often, this role falls to the QB as the most exposed player (Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben, others), sometimes to other players (Ray Lewis et al). And this is where Romo will need to step up. His track record has been dismal, what with Cabo and some postgame comments. But others will also have to step up. Who of other players is the leader of this team? We certainly have a number of outstanding players but a LEADER OF MEN? Not one. Unfortunately, we of the cowboy nation have third position which has taken it upon itself to be the leader of the franchise, and that is J.J. Take note: the whole T.O. disaster is a direct result of the absence of leadership in the locker room and on the field with this team. Allowing a petulant child to act up will only happen in situations where there is no leadership to put that child down. And in our case, neither the coaches nor the players were willing or able to step up to T.O., nope it had to be handled by the head honcho himself.In summary then, Romo is undoubtedly a very good QB, the numbers bear that out, and postseasan success is probably just a matter of time. But if Romo doesn't MAN UP, and man up soon, he will best be remembered as a talented but otherwise uninspired and bland QB.Similarly for the whole team, without some players stepping up and taking on visible and strong leadership roles, we will continue to be an average team with great individual players that disintegrates at the slightest bit of pressure. December here we come!
Very good points........you are certainly on the money there.
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I tried once before to explain to you about Romo and the Cowboys on the other blog. I even went so far as to apologize for "being pompous" as you said I was. But, here you are again, trying to convince us that what you think of Romo and the Cowboys is gospel truth.You continue to think Romo is the one at fault, as you did before, and as intelligent as you are, you should also know this is a TEAM SPORT!!!!. You and so many others refuse to acknowledge that Romo is only 1/11th of a TEAM. So, all these other guys on the team are faultless?I will say this again, that I would much rather have Romo than any of the QB's before him and after Aikman. Romo has won a lot of games, a fact that you seem to ignore, and refuse to give him credit. THE MAN HAS ONLY STARTED 2 1/2 YEARS. How much time is required in your opinion to be an "elite QB"?..a couple of weeks?...How many years did Eli play before he finally got it right? 4? His brother? 9? Again, opinions are like a**holes..........everyone has one, and I respect your right to think as you do, but you should also return the favor. If you don't like Romo and the Cowboys, then at least respect the fans. We can have civil discussions without you trying to convince us that your opinion is the only opinion. I will tell you now that your arguement is fruitless, as I will believe what I want to believe and not what you believe, just as I won't force my beliefs off on you. I think I can speak for most who post here as well.Now, let's see if you return with your "level of haughtiness" that you usually reserve for your "professional environment", and try to make me look like a fool. It's not going to work. I did try being civil with you, and air out the difficulties we had in communication, but you never returned again to read my reply, or if you did, you never answered again. That's what I call "one way communication".
These next few are for you and your self centered self Mr. Bull Crap
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