NFL  > Chicago Bears  > 11-5 or better
May 12, 2009, 05:06 PM
I definitely see the bears at 11-5. provided we have no camp injuries. we have 2 defensive players over 6 yrs. thats hardly old. We have a running back inthe system 2 yrs, plus receivers in 2 yrs (excl rooks). Again every game but one was close last year and we had no passing game. I think are toughest matchups will be pittsburgh and the vikes. But the vikes have no qb. greenbay shouldnt be too much of a problem and detroit, well its detroit. Cutler will make are receivers look like veterans, and are line will be much stronger for the rushing game.if our corners can keep from getting burnt,( get rid of vasher!!) and our d line can get some pressure this year, the skies the limit.
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May 24, 2009  10:25 PM ET

11-5...hmm. Okay, I know you're excited still about Jay but it's time to start looking at this thing closely. You have a qb, but there are no #1 receivers and the defense is still a little older. I'm happy for you still, but there just seems to be this recurring theme of "I've got Jay and everything is fine now." You still have those problems that were there before and I really don't understand why all of a sudden because he arrived they suddenly disappeared. You are going to have to spend the money to acquire top receivers in order to move the chains if you want to maximixe potential. Trying to use Hester as a #1 receiver is not a good choice, he can compliment a top one but trying to use him as one is not wise because so many games hinge on what the receiver can do after the catch. You may have a qb that threw for 4500 yards and mine never did... he didn't have to. Passing yards are completely overrated and people will talk about them as though it's the greatest thing that ever happened. The only thing that mattered to me was the "hardware" my qbs produced and we could care less how much yardage they threw for. You should adopt the same philosophy because the yardage is useless unless you win a super bowl. Minnesota may not have the world's best qb, but they have alot of things working for them...Sage doesn't need to "save" the vikings, he only needs to manage the game. I'd rather do that then try to be the "hero" because it's less stress. Cutler can only do as much as the receivers will let him...they're not Randy Moss/Reggie Wayne and that appears to be a problem also: "I'm going to turn them into something great." If that was true then teams wouldn't be as selective in choosing receivers and take whatever came along. Jay Cutler is one player and he can't turn everything into magic for you. If you wanted it, the front office should've done a better job in getting it. Honestly, it's time that some people stopped thinking that Cutler is going to change everything about your offense because he's one person. I've been fortunate that my franchise has been able to obtain franchise qbs and we always made it a point to try to put the best receivers with him in order to maximize his potential. We never asked them to be saviors because they couldn't do it alone
they needed a potent supporting cast. Just because you got him doesn't make you any better than any other team in your division and assuming everyone else is a "cake walk" because he's here can get your feelings hurt. If you want better offensive talent... then go get it and pay for it. That's what everyone else does. We all start 0-0 at the beginning of the season and there's no guarantee that your team or mine will be in post season play...it's a crap shot for all of us.

May 25, 2009  11:18 AM ET

One person comes to mind when i think about #1 reciever???? Plax, get him and you get a Super bowl ring!!!!!! What do you guys think??? And O, 13-3 wit him!!!!!!!

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May 26, 2009  10:32 AM ET

Seriously people, shut the **** up about Plexiglass! He's not coming here, as Angelo doesn't like people like him. End of ****ing discussion!

May 26, 2009  11:30 AM ET

A list of Bears Q.B.'s since 1975,
Bob Avellini, Gary Huff, Mike Phipps, Vince Evans, Jim McMahon, Rusty Lisch, Greg Landry, Steve Fuller, Mike Tomczak, Doug Flutie, Jim Harbaugh, Mike Hohensee, Sean Payton, Steve Bradley,
Peter Tom Willis, Will Furrer, Steve Walsh, Erik Kramer, Dave Krieg, Steve Stenstrom, Shane Matthews, Rick Mirer, Moses Moreno, Cade McNown, Jim Miller, Corey Sauter, Chris Chandler,
Henry Burriss, Kordell Stewart, Chad Hutchinson, Craig Krenzel, Jonathan Quinn Jeff Blake, Brian Griese, Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton.
Only a couple of names from this list could you say were very good Q.B.'s, I think Bears fans has the right to get excited about having Jay Cutler as our starting Q.B.

Instead of negativity and whining about a certain player or what the team needs are, why don't we talk about the reasons why we could be 11-5 or better. I believe Jay Cutler is a good place to begin.

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May 26, 2009  12:21 PM ET

I love Bears fan, they get an overrated qb that did absolutely crap/nothing in Denver but somehow hell come to the Bears and make them a winning team...Green Bay will out perform the Bears nad have a better record, even Rodgers is better then overrated Cutler. Good luck Bears..your gonna need it. 11-5 or better, HHAHAHA!

May 26, 2009  12:21 PM ET

and^

May 26, 2009  01:02 PM ET

I love Cutler haters who are scared to death the Bears have a Quarterback finally. And I find it funny that the Dallas fans are leading the march because Romo hasn't done a thing for them when it comes to the playoffs, talk about Choking. He's more interested in Golfing and Jessica Simpson than the post season.

May 26, 2009  01:08 PM ET

Bears go 8-8! No depth at all!!!!!!!!!!!

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May 26, 2009  01:23 PM ET
QUOTE(#13):

Bears go 8-8! No depth at all!!!!!!!!!!!

No depth where?? we are deep everywhere except Q.B. and Safety. I don't need to explain the roster and depth to anybody who is not a Bears fan, and Bears fans knows our depth.

May 26, 2009  02:02 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

and the defense is still a little older.

The team is YOUNG, on defense the only guys over 30 are Lach and Ogun, everyone else is 29 or younger. We have our Pro Bowl QB, a great RB, a solid TE on the rise (Olsen), a speedy WR in Hester, a OL that has been revamped and considerably younger (minus Pace of course).

May 26, 2009  05:14 PM ET
QUOTE(#3):

11-5...hmm. Okay, I know you're excited still about Jay but it's time to start looking at this thing closely. You have a qb, but there are no #1 receivers and the defense is still a little older. I'm happy for you still, but there just seems to be this recurring theme of "I've got Jay and everything is fine now." You still have those problems that were there before and I really don't understand why all of a sudden because he arrived they suddenly disappeared. You are going to have to spend the money to acquire top receivers in order to move the chains if you want to maximixe potential. Trying to use Hester as a #1 receiver is not a good choice, he can compliment a top one but trying to use him as one is not wise because so many games hinge on what the receiver can do after the catch. You may have a qb that threw for 4500 yards and mine never did... he didn't have to. Passing yards are completely overrated and people will talk about them as though it's the greatest thing that ever happened. The only thing that mattered to me was the "hardware" my qbs produced and we could care less how much yardage they threw for. You should adopt the same philosophy because the yardage is useless unless you win a super bowl. Minnesota may not have the world's best qb, but they have alot of things working for them...Sage doesn't need to "save" the vikings, he only needs to manage the game. I'd rather do that then try to be the "hero" because it's less stress. Cutler can only do as much as the receivers will let him...they're not Randy Moss/Reggie Wayne and that appears to be a problem also: "I'm going to turn them into something great." If that was true then teams wouldn't be as selective in choosing receivers and take whatever came along. Jay Cutler is one player and he can't turn everything into magic for you. If you wanted it, the front office should've done a better job in getting it. Honestly, it's time that some people stopped thinking that Cutler is going to change everything about your offense because he's one person. I've been fortunate that my franchise has been able to obtain franchise qbs and we always made it a point to try to put the best receivers with him in order to maximize his potential. We never asked them to be saviors because they couldn't do it alonethey needed a potent supporting cast. Just because you got him doesn't make you any better than any other team in your division and assuming everyone else is a "cake walk" because he's here can get your feelings hurt. If you want better offensive talent... then go get it and pay for it. That's what everyone else does. We all start 0-0 at the beginning of the season and there's no guarantee that your team or mine will be in post season play...it's a crap shot for all of us.

This is a very unique situation because top notch pro-bowl caliber QBs don't switch teams in the prime of their careers. It's either before they hit their stride or after their best days are behind them that management will cut them loose and look to the future. The Jay Cutler trade is pretty much unprecedented and only came about because Josh McDaniels is a complete and total moron. Because the boy wonder McDaniels mishandled his new quarterback so badly, the Bears get a pro-bowl QB with undeniable talent, the Broncos get Kyle Orton. Now this is where it gets interesting. What happens to Marshall and Eddie Royal in Denver with Kyle Orton manning the helm? Do wide receivers ever carry an offense? I think we could ask Detroit that question. Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams are great, but the Lions still couldn't win a game. We've seen Randy Moss fall off the map for two seasons in Oakland. We saw Muhsin Muhammed go from leading the league in Carolina to barely making a sound in Chicago. In fact, it was Muhammed who labeled Chicago "the place where receivers go to die", partly because of the run-first philosophy, partly because of the defensive minded drafting, partly because of the lack of talent at QB. Suddenly, you can scratch that last one off the list. Jay Cutler may be a lot of things, and first among them is he's an incredibly talented quarterback. No, the Bears do not have a Larry Fitzgerald, a Plaxico Burress, a Randy Moss. But a few years ago, neither did the Broncos. Brandon Marshall caught exactly 2 passes in 10 games from Jake Plummer. Enter Jay Cutler, and suddenly Brandon Marshall became Brandon Marshall. This is what great QBs do. They make everyone around them better. All of the receivers struggled for years in Atlanta with Mike Vick, enter Matt Ryan and suddenly Roddy White became Roddy White. Baltimore never had a passing game, enter Joe Flacco, and what do you know, the Ravens are suddenly passing the ball successfully. And both of those QBs are rookies, what happens when you put pro-bowler Jay Cutler behind center in Chicago, the place where receivers go to die? I'm betting a few of these Chicago wide receivers are going to come to life this season. And who knows, Denver might be the new place where receivers go to die.

May 26, 2009  05:46 PM ET
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This is a very unique situation because top notch pro-bowl caliber QBs don't switch teams in the prime of their careers. It's either before they hit their stride or after their best days are behind them that management will cut them loose and look to the future. The Jay Cutler trade is pretty much unprecedented and only came about because Josh McDaniels is a complete and total moron. Because the boy wonder McDaniels mishandled his new quarterback so badly, the Bears get a pro-bowl QB with undeniable talent, the Broncos get Kyle Orton. Now this is where it gets interesting. What happens to Marshall and Eddie Royal in Denver with Kyle Orton manning the helm? Do wide receivers ever carry an offense? I think we could ask Detroit that question. Calvin Johnson and Roy Williams are great, but the Lions still couldn't win a game. We've seen Randy Moss fall off the map for two seasons in Oakland. We saw Muhsin Muhammed go from leading the league in Carolina to barely making a sound in Chicago. In fact, it was Muhammed who labeled Chicago "the place where receivers go to die", partly because of the run-first philosophy, partly because of the defensive minded drafting, partly because of the lack of talent at QB. Suddenly, you can scratch that last one off the list. Jay Cutler may be a lot of things, and first among them is he's an incredibly talented quarterback. No, the Bears do not have a Larry Fitzgerald, a Plaxico Burress, a Randy Moss. But a few years ago, neither did the Broncos. Brandon Marshall caught exactly 2 passes in 10 games from Jake Plummer. Enter Jay Cutler, and suddenly Brandon Marshall became Brandon Marshall. This is what great QBs do. They make everyone around them better. All of the receivers struggled for years in Atlanta with Mike Vick, enter Matt Ryan and suddenly Roddy White became Roddy White. Baltimore never had a passing game, enter Joe Flacco, and what do you know, the Ravens are suddenly passing the ball successfully. And both of those QBs are rookies, what happens when you put pro-bowler Jay Cutler behind center in Chicago, the place where receivers go to die? I'm betting a few of these Chicago wide receivers are going to come to life this season. And who knows, Denver might be the new place where receivers go to die.

I couldn't have said it better,Nice read. Look at what happened to Moss when he went to Oakland and then re-emerge successful again when Brady becomes his Q.B.

"Larry Fitzgerald said he thought great quarterbacks make receivers, not the other way around. He also said he felt sorry for those receivers who didn't get to play with a quarterback who could deliver the ball on time and accurately. "

 
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