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Hearsay. Unless you have a video with audio, it did not happen. Even you had to have someone tell you who it was. If I was Jared, I would hunt you down and and after I kicked your ass, I would sue you for slander.

I hope your just not saying that because you are a Viking's fan. I have know reason to lie about something like that. That same night another player emailed espn about what happened. Slander is me falsely accusing him, and it really happened. The DJ even said his name that night.

I really hope your not just saying that because your a vikings fan. I have know reason to lie about this. One of my teammates even emailed espn about what happened. By the way slander is me falsely accusing him to damage his image. I don't have to do that. He did that by himself with his actions. Like I said know matter your sex or race you should be held accountable for you actions.

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Originally posted 10:58 PM ET  06.07 by eyeguy81

Hearsay. Unless you have a video with audio, it did not happen. Even you had to have someone tell you who it was. If I was Jared, I would hunt you down and and after I kicked your ass, I would sue you for slander.

Exactly.

In this day and age I find it hard to believe that nobody has a video recording on their cell phone at least. This would be all over YouTube if true. We at least need to have some corroborating evidence aside from your "first hand account".

If this is only your 2nd thread , what was your 1st one ?

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Originally posted 08:08 AM ET  06.08 by CHOKEland CLOWNS

So what you're telling everyone is that a grown man had too many beers and was disorderly in a bar. BIG DEAL!!! How many other grown men had too many beers that night? I'm sure he wasn't the only one. You are being discriminatory by singleing out Allen.

He was the only one shouting **** in the bar.

Sad...............Just sad. Nothing will be done about this.... Had it been say a Adam Jones{o video in security guard fight incident}, suspension handed out by Goodell without any proof he did it. I might get ragged about this, But this is proof we live in a "White Mans World."

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Originally posted 10:37 AM ET  06.08 by Rizzi

Sad...............Just sad. Nothing will be done about this.... Had it been say a Adam Jones{o video in security guard fight incident}, suspension handed out by Goodell without any proof he did it. I might get ragged about this, But this is proof we live in a "White Mans World."

No raggin here....

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Originally posted 10:37 AM ET  06.08 by Rizzi

But this is proof we live in a "White Mans World."

Wow.. Where is the maturity here? Comments like this are nothing more than knee-jerk responses from the ignorant racists in the world.

A white mans world eh? Try thinking about this for a minute..
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have the NAACP. You have BET... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.
There is a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.. Odd huh?? A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but a woman of any color can be in the Miss America pageant. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college. In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.
You are proud to be black or brown and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.
Why is it that only whites can be racists??

Comments like the ones you made are not only offensive, but they do nothing but show your ignorance and racism. Try looking a little deeper at the issue before giving a knee jerk response next time eh?

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Originally posted 10:37 AM ET  06.08 by Rizzi

Sad...............Just sad. Nothing will be done about this.... Had it been say a Adam Jones{o video in security guard fight incident}, suspension handed out by Goodell without any proof he did it. I might get ragged about this, But this is proof we live in a "White Mans World."

Had there been video of this incident sent to Goodell, you can be sure something would be done about it.

When an annonymous user posts to a message board, what the heck is the NFL supposed to do about it? How many nonsense T&R reports come out about black or white athletes and coaches with no action? all of them.

This does not represent any proof we live in a "white mans world". This just represents internet rumor with no evidence other than an annonymous testimonial with no coorboration. No date, times, names of other people at the club, no video, no audio. What exactly, the the NFL or NFLPA (executive director is a black man) supposed to do about it?

If true, Jared Allen is the biggest ass since that Seinfeld guy. But don't even think about alledging some racially-based good-ol-boy coverup supporting this hate garbage.

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Originally posted 11:35 AM ET  06.08 by Vikingsfan4life

Wow.. Where is the maturity here? Comments like this are nothing more than knee-jerk responses from the ignorant racists in the world.A white mans world eh? Try thinking about this for a minute..You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have the NAACP. You have BET... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists. If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists. There is a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce.. Odd huh?? A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but a woman of any color can be in the Miss America pageant. If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships, we'd be racists. There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college. In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists. You are proud to be black or brown and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists. Why is it that only whites can be racists?? Comments like the ones you made are not only offensive, but they do nothing but show your ignorance and racism. Try looking a little deeper at the issue before giving a knee jerk response next time eh?

Because it is whites that enslaved and killed millions of minorities under guise of civilizing them. Similarly, the Jewish advancement organizations are allowed after what the Nazis did to them. Read it. History is well documented...by the white man. Go figure.

You are right. I am a Vikings fan. I am just saying without proof , it is hearsay. You may not have had a reason to lie, but the person who pointed out that it was Jared Allen may have. He could have been a Packer or Bear fan and was just bullshiting you. Do not be so naive.

Why should anything be done about it?

It's called freedom of speech, he can say whatever he wants.

Some people might find it wrong or offensive, but so long as it's not slanderous and does not incite violence it's legal.

And when did this occur?

Starting a thread like this without any proof is just plain stupid.

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i could not have said it any better myself you are completly right Anybody want to start WET so we can become rich like the people of BET

well when Caucasians get treated like they are less then human beings like blacks, native americans, women, jews and gays are/were THEN you will be able to have your own WET, United Caucasian College Fund, and white history month. But when you (whites) are the ones doing the suppressing of another group that is different, you have no right to complain about any of this.


as far as jared allen goes, i really hope this was a long time ago. I really hope he has changed the way he thinks because i believe this happened. I dont think he dislikes black people at all though. It has become a popular trend for anyone to say the N word. It just rolls off the tongue and people dont even think twice about it. And it is soley becuae of hip hop music. I love hip hop, im not blaming it. But its hard to argue against white people saying it (i am black and i dont say it, just a personal choice) when they here it in rap music. But the way in which he said it it seemed like he was directing it at the blacks in the building. Im black and im a vikings and Allen fan. He was drunk, that is no excuse. When you're drunk, no one will disagree, you true feelings come out. Im still a little confused on why i think he said it but i surely dont believe he is a racist.

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Originally posted 01:51 PM ET  06.08 by Cool Ruler

History is well documented...by the white man. Go figure.

Ohh, yes.. Another country heard from.

Lets not forget though, history has always been recorded by its own race, the human race.. Sure, the Japanese recorded their history, the Russians, Indians, Africans, Arabs, Jews, French, Germans, English, etc and even the ancient races recorded their own histories. White man did not record all of history, we just have a habit of being the subject of history for good or ill.

That being said, racism is a disease of the mouth and mind that desperately needs a cure.

I find it simply amazing that in the here and now, in this day and age with so much going on that you would rather focus on racism and the past than the world before you. I will not dispute what happened, as it is all well documented as unfortunate and dispicable as it may be.
However, think on this for a second. I did not commit those foul deeds, neither did most of the white people alive today. So, asking us to pay for the mistakes of our ancestors is nothing more than being hateful. Also, more than likely you were not alive during the time of those atrocities and you more than likely do not want to be treated the way your ancestors were. So, why should we live in the past?

Lets not forget this- Believe it or not, white people actually went to war with white people over the issue of freedom and equality for black people. Sure freedom came first, but when the issue of equality came whites stood side by side with blacks on the issue of equal rights.. Yet, it is easier to forget or even acknowledge that than it is to forget the atrocities of the past.. Odd...

History is what you make of it. So, if you want to dwell on the mistakes of the past, then by all means do so, take the easy road out and continue making those same mistakes yourself. Its your loss, not mine. I will continue to look at the here and now and wonder why the black community insists upon being seperated and treated differently. I continue to wonder why blacks insist upon reliving parts of the past when there is so much more out there than the past to focus on. Imagine, we have a black President, (doing a fantastic job) and yet you want to dwell on the past and what happened in the past. So much for looking forward to tommorrow and what opportunities it may hold huh?

It says here that the Gladiators played: http://gfgladiators.bravehost.com/
At the Ogen Cats on May 9th.
At Logan Stampede on June 6th.

So is it fair to assume that this incident occurred on May 8th, or June 5th? Since it's a semi-pro team, and I doubt the players are able to devote multiple travel days, as they probably have other jobs.

Allen was watching his brother graduate from Marine Boot Camp on the weekend of May 8th.
So it must have been the night of 5th... can you confirm this OP?