2009-12-01T20:17:50-05:00 Who would Alabama's Ingram pick for Heisman? 2009-11-03T14:10:29-05:00 18 2009-11-03T14:10:29-05:00 1 2 10 2009-11-09T17:10:17-05:00 72 FL Ray Bob Jacksonville 878879 18 Let's face a reality check here for a moment. I just wead that SI's Mendz dismissed Colt McCoy and Tim Tebow due to the lack of (and decline of) their offensive numbers. I don't buy that fate for these boys. Sure other QB's are putting up bigger numbers but you have to look at who there playing and how successful their team is. Another qualifier should be to what percent of the offense is the player resonsible for. If McCoy gets in a slugfest with Oklahoma or Tebow with LSU, a modest TD and yardage result should be compared to the % of offense those leader contributed in a winning cause. I'd put Ingram # 1, McCoy # 2 and Tebow # 3 now because 27-0 wins means a lot more to their respective teams than putting up 400 yards in a losing effort. The conference championships should it for most of the voters. First # 15 7596011 2009-11-09T10:26:04-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/908/526/thumb/Happysatan.jpg 65 XX opie cunningham Mobile, AL 909186 17 forgive the repetitiveness -- ROLL TIDE 7587981 2009-11-09T10:24:57-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/908/526/thumb/Happysatan.jpg 65 XX opie cunningham Mobile, AL 909186 16 i agree that you cannot underestimte the value of the team mechanic -- i'm just glad that ingram, richardson, and mcclain are playing so well -- that mcclain's a beast -- ROLL TIDE.... 7588003 2009-11-09T10:21:28-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/908/526/thumb/Happysatan.jpg 65 XX opie cunningham Mobile, AL 909186 15 I agree that you can't underestimate the value of the whole team mechanic, and we looked great on saturday for the most part -- but you got to be happy that ingram is being considered for the heisman -- that being said, richardson's a beast, and mcClain, well he is the main reason we have one of the toughest defenses in the nation -- ROLL TIDE..... 7587892 2009-11-09T06:01:14-05:00 1 AL deweyo Somerville 913104 14 McClain is the best player on the team however, I know that as an old bama fan, we never go overboard pushing an indiivual player for the Heisman .. 7585849 2009-11-05T16:54:11-05:00 18 AL TideTalk Oxford 909708 13 Ingram is correct McClain is a freak of nature, for sure the best player on the team. I really believe Trent Richardson will break records if he stays healthy, hes tuff. On the other hand where is Tuberville gonna coach next? I always thought he was awesome. 7555524 2009-11-05T15:40:36-05:00 5 MS SECROOTER Louisville 604051 12 Bama has never won a Heisman because we have forever been &quot;team&quot; focused, not glorifying any one player. That's fine with me if it continues that way and we never receive a Heisman. However, if the award should be given to one of our players, I would be proud for that individual and for the perks this trophy brings with it. I do agree it's political and not necessarily granted to the &quot;most outstanding player&quot;. RTR 7553925 2009-11-04T13:13:23-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/626/091/thumb/alabama_crimson_tide_football.jpg 13 AL Acidhouse Alabaster 626731 5 I think they should just scrap it. Football is about teams, Heisman's are about individuals. Half the time, the winners never make any sense anyway. Heisman's are the college football equivalent of Beauty pageant crowns. 7532131 2009-11-04T22:32:06-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/237/141/thumb/ala_logo.jpg 7236 AL BruceS1G Pelham 237461 I think they should just scrap it. Football is about teams, Heisman's are about individuals. Half the time, the winners never make any sense anyway. Heisman's are the college football equivalent of Beauty pageant crowns. 11 My sentiments exactly. 7541531 2009-11-04T20:41:50-05:00 2 FL thornsby82 Saint Augustine 206122 10 Ingram deflects praise which is what a true teammate does not to mention a humble person. tebow won the heisman when he was not the best player on his team, Harvin was. Tebow may not be the best player this year. If Spikes had stayed healthy and not lost his mind with his lastest actions, he may have been the best player. The Heisman should be the best player which it is not, t has been the most productive player on a top five team. Spiller may be the best player but his team holds him back. 7539579 2009-11-04T15:45:22-05:00 2 AL bamagt8 Oxford 908385 7 Ingram maybe 6th in rushing but he also only gets about 50% of the carries because he shares time with Trent Richardson and Roy Upchurch. Also almost 70% of his yards are after contact 7535338 2009-11-04T20:37:09-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/824/711/thumb/000-MS-000.jpg 984 AZ BlaqkJack Paradise Valley 825371 Ingram maybe 6th in rushing but he also only gets about 50% of the carries because he shares time with Trent Richardson and Roy Upchurch. Also almost 70% of his yards are after contact 9 Thanks for the insight, I was not aware that Alabama was the only team that had more than one RB (tailback) and that Ingram had most of his yards after contact. This whole &quot;total yards per season&quot; stats needs to be adjusted to reflect easy yards vs tough yards and to show a ratio of tailback(s) percentage run(s) per team and add a bonus plus yards per opposing teams rush defense rankings. And of course this will have to be adjusted per week like the BCS rankings. I see your point, Ingram for Heisman he has my vote...:P 7539484 18 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/images/getty/2009/10/24/22/20091024220119010755000-gyi.jpg" alt="Double Click to select a Photo" width="298" height="377" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">Alabama LB Rolando McClain::Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images<br /></div> </div> <p>Maybe we need more football players voting for the Heisman Trophy. That way, the award might actually go to the nation's most outstanding player every year instead of the best quarterback, running back or receiver who returns kicks on a national title contender.</p> <p>Tuesday, I asked Alabama tailback Mark Ingram, who leads <a href="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/gene_menez/11/02/heisman.watch/index.html" target="_blank">Gene Menez's Heisman Watch this week</a>, who he would vote for if he had to pick a player from his own team. His answer? Linebacker Rolando McClain.</p> <p>"It's just the impact he has on our team," Ingram said. "It's not just how he plays, but from a leadership standpoint. As a player, he goes out there and makes the plays and comes to play every day, but from a leadership standpoint, he knows everything that's going on with the defense. He knows what the D-line is doing. He knows what the corners are doing. He makes all the calls."</p> <p>Don't get me wrong. Ingram is a fantastic player, but he knows he isn't the best player on his team. That would be McClain, a 6-foot-4, 258-pound force of nature who appears to share a brain with Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban.</p> <p>So if we're picking a Heisman winner, and the selection criteria require that we choose the nation's most outstanding player, shouldn't we at least make sure we pick the best player on his own team. Ingram knows it's McClain, and so should voters.</p> <p>Of course, there's always one stickler for the backs. Told of Ingram's choice Tuesday, McClain laughed. "If I had to vote," he said, "I'd give it to Mark or Tim Tebow."</p> <p>Like I said, maybe we need fewer football players voting for the Heisman Trophy.</p> http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/245/899/thumb/staples_andy2.jpg 39 Andy Staples 246219 84821 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/images/getty/2009/10/24/22/20091024220119010755000-gyi.jpg" alt="Double Click to select a Photo" width="298" height="377" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">Alabama LB Rolando McClain::Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images<br /></div> </div> <p>Maybe we need more football players voting for the Heisman Trophy. That way, the award might actually go to the nation's most outstanding player every year instead of the best quarterback, running back or receiver who returns kicks on a national title contender.</p> <p>Tuesday, I asked Alabama tailback Mark Ingram, who leads Gene Menez's Heisman Watch this week, who he would vote for if he had to pick a player from his own team. His answer?</p> <p>&nbsp;</p>