2009-12-01T20:17:50-05:00 2009-11-06T13:20:55-05:00 35 2009-11-06T13:20:55-05:00 1 4 10 2009-11-11T08:22:26-05:00 1 AR razorrach Russellville 648441 35 hey nick noltes bangs- i love you, you're nice and sweet and kind and a lovely non prejudiced human being. please come spend the night sometime when your mommy allows. love, arkansas 7614357 2009-11-09T21:15:19-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/627/559/thumb/IMG00099.jpg 77 FL The Wise Professor 628199 34 Bad calls occur in every game. With replay some will be corrected, but not all calls are subject to replay so bad calls will continue. Great teams are better than the bad calls. 7597838 2009-11-08T14:04:57-05:00 14 ID morgan thomas Hailey 912589 33 Slive ought to slid on out. If those officials were screwing up I don't blame Meyer for getting mad and calling a &quot;spade a spade&quot;. Maybe they should go back to the garbage truck or being insurance salesmen,teaching school, or whatever they do. 7581425 2009-11-08T01:11:03-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/198/456/thumb/Tims_Car.jpg 179 OK toe slide 360 Tulsa 198756 32 I'm sitting here reading this and I'm speechless. The comment was benign, honest and reserved. To gag their coaches to that degree is unfathomable. $30,000 !?!?!?! Maybe Slive could just go ahead and have all of his coaches castrated. May as well throw in a lobotomy for the fans. Absolutely rediculous. 7579518 2009-11-07T15:44:24-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/208/400/thumb/Dodgers.jpg 1638 NC Daniel9752 Smithfield 208700 31 So refs aren't man enough to hear people disagree with them? They are so bothered by mean coaches that the coaches should be fined? Perhaps if the refs didn't make a regular habit of screwing up, there wouldn't be so many complaints. And Slive is even worse for such a farce as fining people for saying refs were wrong. 7576127 2009-11-07T11:49:46-05:00 19 MI EOESNARKER Birmingham 680036 30 Masterbarr makes a great point about the officiating. I'm an SEC fan currently living in Big Ten territory, so I've watched my fair share of BT games. And I can honestly say...in some ways...they are a pleasure to watch. Not for the play calling, and certainly not for the 'excitement' in the stands. (I've been to funerals far louder than Michigan home games.) But the officiating in Big Ten games is outstanding. Those officials realize that the game isn't about them...it's about the players. SEC officiating, for the last twenty years, has been absolutely horrendous. It's an embarrassment to the conference. Game after game you see blown calls, EVEN IN THE REPLAY BOOTH, and you see refs attempting to insert themselves into the games in very inappropriate ways. (See: Excessive celebration penalties.) So in a way, I love what's going on right now...the conference, and Mike Slime in particular, is getting the black eye it deserves for not taking officiating seriously. Maybe Slime will take this opportunity to actually TRAIN these officials in the future. And if they still can't do the job, GET RID OF THEM! SEC officiating sucks, and now the rest of the country is seeing it first hand. Mike Slime is still and idiot, though. 7574979 2009-11-07T09:37:33-05:00 2 GA Masterbarr Cusseta 777877 29 IMO, the whole argument would become moot if the officials would just call the games correctly. I watched the UGA/LSU game and the celebrating penalty changed the complexion of the game and directly affected the outcome. Maybe LSU would have won the game without it, maybe not. It definitely enabled them to win it. I am tuning into sports games to watch those who put on the uniforms of the teams playing win or lose games based on their actions. I do not count umpire/referee uniforms in that category. When a call by an official has more to do with the outcome of a game, be it a referee in football/basketball or an umpire in baseball, than the play on the field, I have been cheated of the price of the ticket I purchased to get into the game. There have to be rules and they have to be enforced. In this case, they were not, twice. Once for UF, once against. Would either call have changed the outcome of the game? Doubtful due to the beatdown UF handed UGA. Should they have been called? Without question. Personally, I feel that punishing coaches for pointing out that your officials are not doing their jobs correctly similar to punishing a whistle blower in the corporate workplace. It is an attempt to distract from what the real problem is (poor officiating) and put it somkeplace else (Coaches). Reading the posts here, I would have to say Slive succeeded admirably. I see a whole lot said about which caoch should be fined and very little on the actual poor officiating. 7574412 2009-11-06T22:39:53-05:00 6 FL d.d. Yankeetown 658368 28 What's the fine &amp; suspension schedule that comes into play when SEC coaches make complaints about the officiating, during the game, directly to the officials immediately after a call/non-call they don't agree with? I mean, millions and millions of people see that very public criticism too, even if we have to imagine some of the words. 7573313 2009-11-06T22:02:56-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/283/75/thumb/Mig.jpg 14 TN Crockett New Market 28435 27 There is no problem with nailing coaches with fines like this, IF you also punish the officials, who have failed in their jobs. It doesn't matter if it is Myer, Kiffin, or Petrino...if an official misses an obvious call, then suspend, or fire him, and make it public so we know action was taken. Anything else leaves the impression that calls can be missed intentionally with no repercussions. The first time Slive tries to suspend a $3 million per year coach though, the SEC ADs will yank on his collar and put him back in place. Criticizing officials is not a suspendable offense. Punching one for not calling holding is suspendable. 7573131 2009-11-06T22:02:38-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/283/75/thumb/Mig.jpg 14 TN Crockett New Market 28435 26 There is no problem with nailing coaches with fines like this, IF you also punish the officials, who have failed in their jobs. It doesn't matter if it is Myer, Kiffin, or Petrino...if an official misses an obvious call, then suspend, or fire him, and make it public so we know action was taken. Anything else leaves the impression that calls can be missed intentionally with no repercussions. The first time Slive tries to suspend a $3 million per year coach though, the SEC ADs will yank on his collar and put him back in place. Criticizing officials is not a suspendable offense. Punching one for not calling holding is suspendable. 7573130 35 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/football/ncaa/03/03/sec-coaches/urban-meyer-p1.jpg" alt="Double Click to select a Photo" width="298" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">Urban Meyer, now $30,000 poorer.::AP</div> </div> <p>Mike Slive backed himself into a corner last week. The SEC commissioner decreed that any public criticism of officials by a coach would draw a fine, a suspension or both.<br /><br />So when Florida coach Urban Meyer answered a reporter's question this week by suggesting that the official who watched Georgia linebacker Nick Williams deliver an echo-of-the-whistle hit on Gators quarterback Tim Tebow after a play might have considered removing the flag from his pocket, Slive had no choice but to penalize Meyer. So Friday, Slive popped Meyer for a cool $30,000 for saying this: "I don't want to step out of line, [but] there should have been a penalty, in my opinion. Obviously it should have been. You have to protect quarterbacks. That's the whole purpose. It's right in front of the referee."</p> <p>The relative tameness of the comment didn't matter. Slive made clear last week that any criticism would get penalized. Slive stiffened the penalty for grousing about the zebras after Arkansas coach Bobby Petrino, Mississippi State coach Dan Mullen and Tennessee coach Lane Kiffin all blasted officials within a two-week span. All three coaches had legitimate complaints, but the league prefers those complaints be handled internally. Which is great, when the complaints actually are addressed. How often are they addressed? Until a few weeks ago, when the league announced a crew's suspension, we didn't really know.</p> <p>Matt Hinton, Yahoo!'s Dr. Saturday, wrote an <a href="http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/A-brief-history-of-the-SEC-s-descent-into-ref-re?urn=ncaaf,200421">excellent piece Thursday</a> positing that Slive actually triggered the SEC's "descent into ref-related absurdity" by announcing the three-week suspension of the crew that butchered calls in the LSU-Georgia and Arkansas-Florida games. While I agree that Slive left himself no other choice but to fine Meyer, I disagree that the public shaming of underperforming officials caused all this.</p> <p>When the SEC agreed to $3 billion worth of contracts (over 15 years) with ESPN and CBS earlier this year, there was a run on Reynolds Wrap for the purposes of designing headgear. Fans of other conferences assumed the SEC put in the fix to keep its elite teams in the national title hunt. Add those to the already irrational SEC fans, many of whom believe their conference rival's coach meets with Slive weekly to plot the downfall of [insert team here], and you have a bunch of eagle-eyed YouTubers who will take every opportunity to prove a vast SEC conspiracy. Suddenly, routine officiating mistakes turned into black helicopters.</p> <p>If Slive is going to publicly muzzle his coaches, he has to publicly admonish officials who make mistakes, or the SEC will have a serious credibility problem. Now that the coaches know Slive means business, here's hoping the SEC doesn't go back to disciplining its officials in a vacuum.</p> <p>Of course, some good may come out of this. If the officiating continues to lag and coaches can't hold their tongues, the fines may help fund the cure for cancer. Meyer's 30 large will help fund a McWhorter post-graduate scholarship, which helps deserving former SEC athletes attend graduate school.</p> <p>&nbsp;</p> http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/245/899/thumb/staples_andy2.jpg 39 Andy Staples 246219 85302 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/2009/football/ncaa/03/03/sec-coaches/urban-meyer-p1.jpg" alt="Double Click to select a Photo" width="298" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">Urban Meyer, now $30,000 poorer.::AP</div> </div> <p>Mike Slive backed himself into a corner last week. The SEC commissioner decreed that any public criticism of officials by a coach would draw a fine, a suspension or both.<br /><br />When Florida coach Urban Meyer answered a reporter's question this week by suggesting that the official who watched Georgia linebacker Nick Williams deliver an echo-of-the-whistle hit on Gators quarterback Tim Tebow after a play might have considered removing the flag from his pocket, Slive had no choice but to penalize Meyer.</p>