Kansas controversy could shake BCS

2009-12-01T20:17:51-05:00

2009-11-19T10:19:56-05:00

2009-12-01T18:42:36-05:00

Hollywood Mizzou

Sherman Oaks 928690

94 Never Mind! Please pardon my above post. I thought this was a timely article from this week. I was mistaken. I now see that it is an 'archival' piece of info. My bad. Please return to whatever business you were doing before my premature (or in this case extremely tardy) post. That is all.... 7820366

2009-12-01T18:33:51-05:00

Hollywood Mizzou

Sherman Oaks 928690

93 HELLO! KANSAS?!?!? Is anyone even paying attention to this article? Have I entered some Bizarro World?! There is NO WAY Kansas will beat TEXAS because Kansas is DONE for the season. They aren't playing Texas!!! SHEESH!! NEBRASKA PLAYS TEXAS on Saturday! What the hell, Staples? This is a ridiculous article. Come on, let's get Big 12 facts straight! Holy crap! 7820061

2009-11-20T21:34:10-05:00

CrimsonMan072

Hoover 837543

84 The last thing I want is a non-BCS team in the National Championship game. It is bad enough having a Big-10 school in there getting trounced by an SEC school. Big 12 and SEC sells tickets...THAT is what I want to see! Not some conference that has no competition. If those teams got in to a REAL conference and won, then they would have the respect they are longing for. Hook 'em Horns!!! 7728489

2009-11-29T08:28:37-05:00

wacschoolalum

Las Cruces 570979

The last thing I want is a non-BCS team in the National Championship game. It is bad enough having a Big-10 school in there getting trounced by an SEC school. Big 12 and SEC sells tickets...THAT is what I want to see! Not some conference that has no competition. If those teams got in to a REAL conference and won, then they would have the respect they are longing for.Hook 'em Horns!!!

92 Yeah, just like the SEC's runner-up school Alabama trounced non-BCS Utah last year... NOT!!! BTW, it takes an invitation for a school to change conferences -- they can't just walk in and say "Hi, guys, we're joining your conference -- I hope you don't mind!" Those top non-BCS teams you are bashing can't join a BCS conference on a moments notice just because they might want to. You are out of line in suggesting that they don't deserve respect because they haven't joined a BCS conference. The season isn't quite over yet, but there is a very real possibility that both TCU and Boise St. could have non-conference victories over BCS conference champions on their resumes. How many wins (or games, for that matter) vs. BCS-conference contenders can Texas and Florida claim on their non-conference resumes? Settle it on the field instead of standing back and beating your chest and claiming that the non-BCS schools don't stand a chance so why bother? (P.S. -- I will give Alabama credit for having the guts to schedule a non-conference road game vs. Virginia Tech this year.) 7793262

2009-11-28T15:20:28-05:00

JSHarvey

Sandy 368515

91 Here is what the top 25 should look like if rankings were based on reality: "Division I-A College Football Performance Ratings 21-Nov-09 A team's rating is the average of its opponents' ratings plus 100 for a win or minus 100 for a loss. Wins that lower the rating and losses that raise the rating count one twentieth as much as the other games. Post-season games count double. These ratings are in the public domain and may be freely published. W L - - 1 Alabama 11 0 941 2 Florida 11 0 931 3 Cincinnati 10 0 928 4 Boise St. 11 0 925 5 Texas Christian 11 0 920 6 Texas 11 0 913 7 Georgia Tech 10 1 897 8 Oregon 9 2 891 9 Pittsburgh 9 1 864 10 Virginia Tech 8 3 861 11 Louisiana St. 8 3 859 12 Ohio St. 10 2 858 13 Oregon St. 8 3 856 14 Iowa 10 2 854 Southern Cal 7 3 854 16 California 8 3 853 17 Miami 8 3 849 18 Oklahoma St. 9 2 847 19 North Carolina 8 3 846 20 Mississippi 8 3 844 21 Penn St. 10 2 842 22 Arkansas 7 4 841 23 Clemson 8 3 840 24 South Florida 7 3 835 25 (tie) Stanford 7 4 834 Utah 9 2 834 7789592

2009-11-25T00:22:03-05:00

texancc

Corpus Christi 164182

90 "I erred in overlooking Arkansas from the Longhorns' schedule last year. But I'm not sure this changes much. Texas has a long-standing practice of scheduling three or four ooc cupcakes a year and scheduling no more than one tough ooc opponent a year.In view of this, I have very little sympathy for those who whine, saying, "Arkansas backing out of this year's game" or "We tried to schedule Utah, but they wouldn't play us." Look, if you follow the pattern of Oregon, USC, GaTech, Washington, UGa, UCLA, VaTech, Miami, Oklahoma, and other big-time programs that regularly schedule at least two and sometimes three tough ooc opponents, then you won't have a serious problem if Arkansas "backs out" or Utah refuses to accept your terms. Man up and schedule some real non-conference competition. Until then, I say the Frogs are more deserving of a bid to the national championship game." Nice how Sunshine Boy fails to mention his team's nice OOC 2009 Charleston Southern Troy Florida International Florida State(NOT were they once were) Way to schedule those powerhouses 7764238

2009-11-23T20:43:49-05:00

skycaptain123

Austin 876087

89 Texas is better than everyone they play????? Well, since they only play really good high school or junior college teams for most of their season, that statement is probably true. We need a playoff, or we need to eliminate the BCS and its moronic computer rating system and go back to the AP/UPI poll process. No one was happy, but at least the furor was minimized. As to Texas playing weak teams, they should be ashamed of themselves. This foolishness is an embarrassment to everyone who ever watched the great Darrell Royal years. 7749756

2009-11-19T18:03:08-05:00

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Dirty Underwear

Los Angeles 921638

This doesn't seem so clear cut. All three (Texas, USC, and Florida) have been very successful over the last 5 years:------------------------------------------------Texas: RS - Bowl Results------------------------------------------------2004 - 11-1 - Won bowl game2005 - 12-0 - Won bowl game (NC over USC)2006 - 9-3 - Won bowl game2007 - 9-3 - Won bowl game2008 - 11-1 - Won bowl game2009 - 10-0 ------------------------------------------------Total - (62-8) - (5-0) - (67-8) - 1 BCS Title------------------------------------------------USC: RS - Bowl Results------------------------------------------------2004 - 12-0 - Won bowl game (NC over OU)2005 - 12-0 - Lost bowl game (NC to Texas)2006 - 10-2 - Won bowl game2007 - 10-2 - Won bowl game2008 - 11-1 - Won bowl game2009 - 7-3------------------------------------------------Total - (62-8) - (4-1) - (66-9) - 1 BCS Title------------------------------------------------Florida: RS - Bowl Results------------------------------------------------2004 - 8-4 - Lost bowl game2005 - 9-3 - Won bowl game2006 - 11-1 - Won bowl game (NC over OSU)2007 - 9-3 - Lost bowl game2008 - 11-1 - Won bowl game (NC over OU)2009 - 10-0------------------------------------------------Total - (58-12) - (3-2) - (61-14) - 2 BCS Titles------------------------------------------------Texas and USC have identical regular season records over that period. Texas has the best overall record. Texas has the best bowl game record. Florida has 2 BCS titles. Texas is the only one of the three to not make the BCS title game twice (but USC lost to Texas in their second appearance).It seems foolish to argue any of these teams has been "better" than the others over this period, but putting Texas at the bottom would certainly be a stretch.

58 Numbers mean nothing. No one is better, has ever been better, or ever will be better than USC. 7714369

2009-11-22T22:17:43-05:00

TexLonghorn

Austin 874850

Numbers mean nothing. No one is better, has ever been better, or ever will be better than USC.

88 You forgot to mention something there didn't you little fella? In 2005 before the NC your team was talked about as possibly being the best college football team of all time. The talking heads and analyst just couldn't gush enough about how awesome USC was. Do you remember what happaned? Not saying Texas is the best team over the last five years but they deserve consideration. 7737369

2009-11-21T15:46:03-05:00

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Buckeye Larry

Dublin 497051

87 Maybe Mangino and Charlie Weiss should open an ALL YOU CAN EAT BUFFET! OPEN 24/7. Specializing in desserts. 7731084

2009-11-20T10:22:16-05:00

116

Sunshine Boy

Tallahassee 366547

Texas played Arkansas last year

71 I erred in overlooking Arkansas from the Longhorns' schedule last year. But I'm not sure this changes much. Texas has a long-standing practice of scheduling three or four ooc cupcakes a year and scheduling no more than one tough ooc opponent a year. In view of this, I have very little sympathy for those who whine, saying, "Arkansas backing out of this year's game" or "We tried to schedule Utah, but they wouldn't play us." Look, if you follow the pattern of Oregon, USC, GaTech, Washington, UGa, UCLA, VaTech, Miami, Oklahoma, and other big-time programs that regularly schedule at least two and sometimes three tough ooc opponents, then you won't have a serious problem if Arkansas "backs out" or Utah refuses to accept your terms. Man up and schedule some real non-conference competition. Until then, I say the Frogs are more deserving of a bid to the national championship game. 7719144

2009-11-21T09:12:34-05:00

957

Bedias90

Vidor 190275

I erred in overlooking Arkansas from the Longhorns' schedule last year. But I'm not sure this changes much. Texas has a long-standing practice of scheduling three or four ooc cupcakes a year and scheduling no more than one tough ooc opponent a year.In view of this, I have very little sympathy for those who whine, saying, "Arkansas backing out of this year's game" or "We tried to schedule Utah, but they wouldn't play us." Look, if you follow the pattern of Oregon, USC, GaTech, Washington, UGa, UCLA, VaTech, Miami, Oklahoma, and other big-time programs that regularly schedule at least two and sometimes three tough ooc opponents, then you won't have a serious problem if Arkansas "backs out" or Utah refuses to accept your terms. Man up and schedule some real non-conference competition. Until then, I say the Frogs are more deserving of a bid to the national championship game.

86 Texas smoked the Hogs 56-10 last year in a game that could have easily been 77-10. 3 weeks later Arkansas beat LSU. Comparative scores dont mean much, and i know the Big 12 is down this year overall, but some of you people need to put your honesty and integrity in from of a mirror and see how it really looks. You LOOK for anything, true or not to bash a team whose success you are jealous of, that is weak. 7729522

2009-11-19T11:19:13-05:00

CEH

Springfield 921278

5 Miracles do happen in this one great human game that does not play with a round ball; and in those Big 12 states where God is an animate being rather than the grandest of human concepts anything is believable. EVen Pallin for Presdent and Texas losing to Kansas; but don't put your money on it and don't lose any sleep. When Oklahoma lost their quarterback Texas got a free ride; at least to the BCS where their cloak of undefeatable will probably become smoke. TCU or Boise can beat them and Bama or Tebow would make Texas look like the good high school team they are. 7707069

2009-11-21T09:04:14-05:00

957

Bedias90

Vidor 190275

Miracles do happen in this one great human game that does not play with a round ball; and in those Big 12 states where God is an animate being rather than the grandest of human concepts anything is believable. EVen Pallin for Presdent and Texas losing to Kansas; but don't put your money on it and don't lose any sleep. When Oklahoma lost their quarterback Texas got a free ride; at least to the BCS where their cloak of undefeatable will probably become smoke. TCU or Boise can beat them and Bama or Tebow would make Texas look like the good high school team they are.

85 You wanna talk free rides? Ou loses to Texas and still gets a greasy back door slide, butt first into the BCS title game in 08, THAT is a free ride. Of course the Sooners blew it as usual. 7729344

<div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2009/11/14/18/200911141827664789294-p2.jpg" alt="Double Click to select a Photo" width="298" height="268" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">Kansas coach Mark Mangino.::Orlin Wagner/AP<br /></div> </div> <p>Mark Mangino is in trouble. Maybe it took a five-game losing streak to embolden the Kansas coach's critics enough to release the hounds, but at this point, it seems former players are lining up outside the offices of the <em>Lawrence Journal-World</em> and <em>Kansas City Star </em>to tell on-the-record horror stories about Mangino's temper.</p> <p>Whether you believe the problem is Mangino's <a href="http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/nov/19/not-so-gentle-reign/?sports">anger-management strategy</a>, his <a href="http://media.lawrence.com/news/documents/2009/11/17/01_pdfsam_SCAN0120_000.pdf">poor choice of parking spots</a>, <a href="http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/1577294.html">his corpulence</a> or the intestinal fortitude of his accusers doesn't matter. What matters is that firestorm hitting Lawrence right now might cause a cataclysmic shift in the national title race.</p> <p>In sports, one of two things happens when a coach comes under fire. His players abandon him and the team falls apart, or his team bands together to provide an on-field endorsement of its leader.</p> <p>Judging by the comments from his former players, the Jayhawks probably will choose the former and lose by 40 at Texas on Saturday night. That could sink Mangino, who seems to have no support from his administration after this season's collapse. But what happens if the Jayhawks choose the latter? What happens if Texas is understandably complacent after slaughtering so many foes in this year's underachieving Big 12? What happens if Kansas shocks the Longhorns?</p> <p>All BCS hell would break loose, that's what.</p> <p>Suddenly, TCU and Cincinnati would be in the mix for the BCS title game. History might get made if pollsters yanked the Horned Frogs to No. 3, because either No. 1 Florida or No. 2 Alabama is guaranteed to lose when those teams meet Dec. 5. BCS critics would be on high alert for any poll adjustments that allowed the Bearcats (from the automatic qualifying Big East) or a one-loss Texas to sneak past TCU.</p> <p>It would make the next two weeks some of the most interesting in college football history. It probably won't happen, but the situation in Lawrence is so volatile that it can only produce an extreme result.</p> <p>Either the Jayhawks will lose by six touchdowns, or they will hang with the Longhorns and possibly shock the world. There won't be an in-between.</p> http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/245/899/thumb/staples_andy2.jpg 39

Andy Staples

246219 86721 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/images/ap/2009/11/14/18/200911141827664789294-p2.jpg" alt="Double Click to select a Photo" width="298" height="268" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">Kansas coach Mark Mangino.::Orlin Wagner/AP<br /></div> </div> <p>Mark Mangino is in trouble. Maybe it took a five-game losing streak to embolden the Kansas coach's critics enough to release the hounds, but at this point, it seems former players are lining up outside the offices of the <em>Lawrence Journal-World</em> and <em>Kansas City Star </em>to tell on-the-record horror stories about Mangino's temper.</p> <p>Whether you believe the problem is Mangino's <a href="http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2009/nov/19/not-so-gentle-reign/?sports">anger-management strategy</a>, his <a href="http://media.lawrence.com/news/documents/2009/11/17/01_pdfsam_SCAN0120_000.pdf">poor choice of parking spots</a>, <a href="http://www.kansascity.com/sports/columnists/jason_whitlock/story/1577294.html">his corpulence</a> or the intestinal fortitude of his accusers doesn't matter. What matters is that firestorm hitting Lawrence right now might cause a cataclysmic shift in the national title race.</p> <p> </p>