2009-07-02T16:15:43-04:00 Yankees target Sabathia, Burnett, Lowe 2008-11-14T13:17:12-05:00 89 2008-11-14T13:17:12-05:00 1 9 10 2008-11-19T08:43:56-05:00 2 NJ jaytabrys Montville 611565 91 The Yankees wont get Sabathia, Burnett, &amp; Lowe, maybe 2. As for Pettite he can wait, lets not forget that his dragging feet helped undermine the Santana deal. Hughes, Kennedy, &amp; Aceves (who had as good a September as the one Kennedy had a year ago that propelled him into the rotation) Sabathia, Wang, Lowe, Pettite, Cahmberlain works for me. As for Swisher, he's the 1B and thats fine by me, and I like Gardner as a sparkplug in CF with the potential to swipe 50 bases at the bottom of the order. My concern is that with Abreau leaving and with the uncertainty of Posada and Mattsui's durability and productivity there is no set 3 or 5 hitter to surround A-Rod. In my view Matsui needs to be moved and a big bat needs to be signed, not Texiera, but maybe Manny, or Burrell, and if there was a glimmer of hope that Prince Fielder could be acquired I would go ALL IN to make that happen. I'm of course advocating getting ONE of those bats, not all as my bretheren typically do. Signing Sabathia, Lowe/Burnett, and a big bat would be sufficiently glutonness enough don't you think? And spare me the &quot;buy everybody&quot; shouts, its a method, same as going wholly homegrown, which every fan of every other team seems to advocate so strongly. I just don't understand why so many other fans care about the Yankees buying everyone if there so enamored with the homegrown method. 3380619 2008-11-19T08:20:19-05:00 2 NJ jaytabrys Montville 611565 90 the yankees aren't signing Sabathia, Lowe, &amp; Burnett. Maybe 2. As for Hughes hes going to have to start in AAA, as will Aceves (who had as good a September callup as Kennedy did a year ago) &amp; Kennedy. As for Pettitte, well frankly I want him back, I have no problem waiting to see how everything else plays out. As he had no problem waiting until December last year, a delay that helped to undermine the Santana deal. Sabathia, Wang, Lowe, Pettitte, Chamberlain works for me. Swisher is 1B, and thats fine, and I like a sparkplug like Gardner in CF, but Matsui is a HUGE question mark at DH, I hat eto sound like one of those &quot;sign em all!&quot; people, but I think the Yankees need to move Matsui and sign Manny, or anouther big bat to be the primary DH. And above Peavy if there was a sliver of a glimmer of a teeny chance that Prince Fielder became available I'd throw everything we have at it. 3380470 2008-11-19T05:51:12-05:00 5 KY Star Trek Louisville 598036 89 I don't understand why the Yankees would make Swisher their answer at first base, when you have a 28 year old, switch hitting, Gold Glove, .300 hitting, 100 RBI guy like Teixeira there. Are they going to use a 3 man platoon in center of Gardner, Cabrera, and Swisher? Then have Swisher platoon at first base with 36 year old, shoulder surgery, catcher Posada? After they offer what they will to the big 3 pitchers, what will they have left. They may offer these 3 the sun and moon, but they won't get all 3. They still need a first baseman and a centerfielder. 3380236 2008-11-17T21:40:00-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/459/563/thumb/1908479599.jpg 96 NY theevilhim Little Neck 460003 86 id rather try to get peavy for hughes and some other pieces. maybe even turn around and package cano and hughes for a good pitcher. i dont like burnett but they cant justify the new stadium prices without improving the team. they also should trade damon who's value is at a premium now, maybe to the chisox. once they shore up the rotation, they really wont have to go nuts in the FA market for a couple of years and we can continue to try and devolop position players 3366225 2008-11-18T20:17:20-05:00 8 XX TheFranchise524 No City 605861 id rather try to get peavy for hughes and some other pieces. maybe even turn around and package cano and hughes for a good pitcher. i dont like burnett but they cant justify the new stadium prices without improving the team. they also should trade damon who's value is at a premium now, maybe to the chisox. once they shore up the rotation, they really wont have to go nuts in the FA market for a couple of years and we can continue to try and devolop position players 88 the thing about peavy tho is he wants a few yrs added on to the contract. 3378211 2008-11-17T15:38:02-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/598/748/thumb/gcobraves.jpg 85 GA BravesandCards Atlanta 599388 85 Idk why the Earth is getting excited about Derek Lowe becoming a free agent... on a lot of contending teams he would be a #4 starter. &lt;-- He should have been under Penny and Schmidt if they hadn't been injured. He was barely over .500 in the struggling West. The only thing he really has going for him is that he's an innings eater. Why not save a boat-load of cash and go with Braden Looper. Around .500 over the last 2 years in a much more competitive division. Hate the Yankees but if it goes C.C.-Wang-Burnett-Moose-Joba then I'd argue that that's the best 1-5 ever......? Wang is an ace, people just forget 3362604 2008-11-18T20:15:50-05:00 8 XX TheFranchise524 No City 605861 Idk why the Earth is getting excited about Derek Lowe becoming a free agent... on a lot of contending teams he would be a #4 starter. &lt;-- He should have been under Penny and Schmidt if they hadn't been injured. He was barely over .500 in the struggling West. The only thing he really has going for him is that he's an innings eater. Why not save a boat-load of cash and go with Braden Looper. Around .500 over the last 2 years in a much more competitive division.Hate the Yankees but if it goes C.C.-Wang-Burnett-Moose-Joba then I'd argue that that's the best 1-5 ever......? Wang is an ace, people just forget 87 best 1-5 ever?????? hmmmmmm thats a pretty big compliment 3378229 2008-11-17T21:40:00-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/459/563/thumb/1908479599.jpg 96 NY theevilhim Little Neck 460003 86 id rather try to get peavy for hughes and some other pieces. maybe even turn around and package cano and hughes for a good pitcher. i dont like burnett but they cant justify the new stadium prices without improving the team. they also should trade damon who's value is at a premium now, maybe to the chisox. once they shore up the rotation, they really wont have to go nuts in the FA market for a couple of years and we can continue to try and devolop position players 3366225 2008-11-17T15:38:02-05:00 http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/598/748/thumb/gcobraves.jpg 85 GA BravesandCards Atlanta 599388 85 Idk why the Earth is getting excited about Derek Lowe becoming a free agent... on a lot of contending teams he would be a #4 starter. &lt;-- He should have been under Penny and Schmidt if they hadn't been injured. He was barely over .500 in the struggling West. The only thing he really has going for him is that he's an innings eater. Why not save a boat-load of cash and go with Braden Looper. Around .500 over the last 2 years in a much more competitive division. Hate the Yankees but if it goes C.C.-Wang-Burnett-Moose-Joba then I'd argue that that's the best 1-5 ever......? Wang is an ace, people just forget 3362604 2008-11-15T23:43:21-05:00 8 XX TheFranchise524 No City 605861 84 sorry about the typos 3350902 2008-11-15T07:46:03-05:00 2 XX edvard No City 608821 75 I could see pitching set-up for the Yankees next year like this: Starter: CC Sabathia, AJ burnett, Wang, Mike Mussina, Phil Hughes. Pettite could be a long reliever or spot starter. Joba should be the 8th inning pitcher to Rivera. If you start Joba he will be prone to shoulder problem having that history even before when they drafted him. 3346425 2008-11-15T21:01:45-05:00 8 XX TheFranchise524 No City 605861 I could see pitching set-up for the Yankees next year like this: Starter: CC Sabathia, AJ burnett, Wang, Mike Mussina, Phil Hughes. Pettite could be a long reliever or spot starter. Joba should be the 8th inning pitcher to Rivera. If you start Joba he will be prone to shoulder problem having that history even before when they drafted him. 83 hughes has to earn his spot so he'll most likely be in AAA and they could brin back moose and andy but IMO that would be a mistake. He didn't have shoulder problems when he was drafted he had weight, knee, and I think forarm problems when he was drafted. The knee is fine and the weight is under control. 3350122 2008-11-15T19:22:26-05:00 5 CA Dodgerfan16 Davis 605862 81 They do need the arms. But this sort of mentality has cost them in the past. Carl Pavano, anyone? Its a gamble. www.diamond-theory.com 3349617 2008-11-15T20:59:14-05:00 8 XX TheFranchise524 No City 605861 They do need the arms. But this sort of mentality has cost them in the past. Carl Pavano, anyone? Its a gamble.www.diamond-theory.com 82 yep its a gamble but they have to take it 3350104 89 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/cc.sabathia.jpg" alt="CC Sabathia" width="298" height="280" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">CC Sabathia is the focus the Yankees' offseason planning.<br />John Biever/SI</div> </div> <p>The Yankees will make an offer to exceed <strong>Johan Santana</strong>'s $137.5 million contract to top target <strong>CC Sabathia</strong> and closely follow that bold first strike with proposals within the next day or two to&nbsp;<strong>A.J. Burnett</strong> and <strong>Derek Lowe</strong>, SI.com has learned.</p> <p>The Yankees' aggressive three-pronged free agent pitching approach puts them in position to dominate the free-agent market. The three offers together are expected to total in the $250 million range.</p> <p>The Yankees are hoping to blow away the field for Sabathia, who prefers to play in California if all things are equal, then fashion the rest of their rotation from a very strong free-agent market for pitchers. The Yankees don't expect immediate acceptances from all three pitchers, but one competing executive said, "I wouldn't be shocked to see the Yankees sign all three guys.'' (That's probably a long shot, however.)<br /><br />The Yankees expect <strong>Mike Mussina</strong> to make his decision whether to return for another year sometime next week, but they are still expecting him to retire. Meanwhile, <strong>Andy Pettitte</strong> appears to be a fallback option at this point -- though his chances to return are quite possible barring affirmative answers form the three free-agent pitching targets they covet.</p> <p>The Yankees' proposal to Sabathia will exceed the total amount and actual value of the Mets deal for Santana, whose record $137.5 million contract is estimated to be worth about $123 million when deferred dollars are figured in. Sabathia's first offer this winter came from the Brewers and was for $100 million over five years. But people familiar with that deal say it is actually worth closer to $18 million annually when all the deferred dollars are figured, meaning it is with about what <strong>Barry Zito</strong>'s deal is worth on an annual basis, though much less than Zito's total of $126 million.</p> <p>The Yankees remain interested in <strong>Manny Ramirez</strong> but are concentrating on the pitchers now with the expectation that Ramirez won't sign quickly with anyone, certainly not the Dodgers, who bid $45 million over two years, far below Ramirez's request for a five- or six-year deal. Moreover,&nbsp;the Yankees chances to sign star free-agent first baseman <strong>Mark Texieira</strong> are greatly diminished now that they have acquired&nbsp;<strong>Nick Swisher</strong>.</p> http://img.fannation.com/upload/user_profile/image/100/64/thumb/Heyman_Jon.png 0 NY Jon Heyman New York 10084 23422 <div class="photo_container image_right"> <div class="photo"><img src="http://img.fannation.com/upload/si_blog_post_images/cc.sabathia.jpg" alt="CC Sabathia" width="298" height="280" /></div> <div class="photo_attributes" style="text-align:right;">CC Sabathia is the focus the Yankees' offseason planning.<br />John Biever/SI</div> </div> <p>The Yankees will make an offer to exceed <strong>Johan Santana</strong>'s $137.5 million contract to top target <strong>CC Sabathia</strong> and closely follow that bold first strike with proposals within the next day or two to&nbsp;<strong>A.J. Burnett</strong> and <strong>Derek Lowe</strong>, SI.com has learned.</p> <p>The Yankees' aggressive three-pronged free agent pitching approach puts them in position to dominate the free-agent market. The three offers together are expected to total in the $250 million range.</p> <p>The Yankees are hoping to blow away the field for Sabathia, who prefers to play in California if all things are equal, then fashion the rest of their rotation from a very strong free-agent market for pitchers. The Yankees don't expect immediate acceptances from all three pitchers, but one competing executive said, "I wouldn't be shocked to see the Yankees sign all three guys.'' (That's probably a long shot, however.)<br /><br />The Yankees expect <strong>Mike Mussina</strong> to make his decision whether to return for another year sometime next week, but they are still expecting him to retire. Meanwhile, <strong>Andy Pettitte</strong> appears to be a fallback option at this point -- though his chances to return are quite possible barring affirmative answers form the three free-agent pitching targets they covet.</p>